Where is magnetic south under FET?

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Where is magnetic south under FET?
« on: December 01, 2009, 12:04:44 PM »
Just a quick question (not covered in the FAQ i checked). Under FET is there a specific place which is magnetic south or is it just away from Magnetic north.

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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2009, 12:12:20 PM »
Just a quick question (not covered in the FAQ i checked). Under FET is there a specific place which is magnetic south or is it just away from Magnetic north.

Apparently they think that the magnetic south pole in underneath the Earth and the ice wall acts as it. I don't know what that means, they're all a bit kooky if you ask me.
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2009, 12:16:42 PM »
It works the same way it does in RET, the magnetic fields come from the center of the earth and out. Technically the south pole is exactly opposite the north pole, on the other side of the earth.

There's a diagram in the FAQ, let me grab it.

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Q: "How can a compass work on a Flat Earth?"

A: The magnetic field is generated in the same fashion as with the RE (Diagram). Thus, the magnetic south pole is near the geographic north pole, just like on the RE.  The magnetic north pole is on the underside of the Earth. The Ice Wall is not the south pole, but acts as it, as it is the furthest from the center of the earth that you can follow the magnetic field. The field is vertical in this area, accounting for the aurora australis.


That's the flat earth on it's side, the brown is through the center showing the magnetic poles.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2009, 12:18:53 PM by SupahLovah »
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2009, 12:32:55 PM »
Similar to this, I asked where the exact location of the geographic south pole was. They were unable to answer that. Most of them didn't understand the question.
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2009, 12:35:44 PM »
Is it our fault if they don't understand their theory?
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2009, 01:33:23 PM »
It's typical the FErs aren't making their way into this thread. They know they cannot explain it, so they stay away. I'm sorry to inform everyone, but this thread is dead. There will be no debate with the FErs.
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2009, 01:47:05 PM »
It works the same way it does in RET, the magnetic fields come from the center of the earth and out. Technically the south pole is exactly opposite the north pole, on the other side of the earth.

There's a diagram in the FAQ, let me grab it.

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Q: "How can a compass work on a Flat Earth?"

A: The magnetic field is generated in the same fashion as with the RE (Diagram). Thus, the magnetic south pole is near the geographic north pole, just like on the RE.  The magnetic north pole is on the underside of the Earth. The Ice Wall is not the south pole, but acts as it, as it is the furthest from the center of the earth that you can follow the magnetic field. The field is vertical in this area, accounting for the aurora australis.


That's the flat earth on it's side, the brown is through the center showing the magnetic poles.

you can test that. magnetic field lines will be very different.

another failure for flat earth.

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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2009, 01:55:23 PM »
I'm no expert, but:


Slam a disc on that, so the edges of the disc are level with the outer bit of the field, and what do we have?

But from the map you guys constantly show on this site:


http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r36/Persistenxe/Flat_earth-1.png


The magnetic South Pole would be smack dab in the middle of the Earth. In the diagram you show, the SP is at the top of a round Earth, so you can't just "slam" a flat Earth into the diagram and expect the magnetic field to work the exact same way.

FAIL!
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2009, 01:57:09 PM »
I'm no expert, but:

Slam a disc on that, so the edges of the disc are level with the outer bit of the field, and what do we have?

abnormal field lines.

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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2009, 12:07:07 AM »


What's the problem?


What's the green line for? I don't understand what you're getting at with a green line going through the picture.
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2009, 12:15:21 AM »
It's Da Erf

No shit Sherlock, what I'm saying is how does putting a green line through the picture prove that the magnetic field would work if a flat Earth was put in it's place?
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2009, 12:19:31 AM »
It shows that FE would be consistent with what is observed. I'm no scientist.

How though? That would mean that the magnetic fields generate from the edges of the Earth in the FE model.

And stop being an idiot.
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2009, 10:57:59 AM »
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What's the problem?

Your field lines are still wrong.

Plus you've lost the south pole. :(
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2009, 11:10:30 AM »
That picture clearly shows the field lines coming through the center of the flat earth and going around as they do on the RE. It's the same.
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2009, 11:27:33 AM »
That picture clearly shows the field lines coming through the center of the flat earth and going around as they do on the RE. It's the same.

No it shows the field lines emanating from one point but not converging on another, instead diverging. Giving an imbalance in the field lines and no south pole.
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2009, 11:35:57 AM »
That picture clearly shows the field lines coming through the center of the flat earth and going around as they do on the RE. It's the same.
No it shows the field lines emanating from one point but not converging on another, instead diverging. Giving an imbalance in the field lines and no south pole.
It shows them coming from the center of the opposite side of the disc, and converging at the center of OUR side of the disc.

Are you blind?
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2009, 12:20:37 PM »
IDK. Over the equator, they are parallel to earth, at the poles they are perpendicular.

Maybe his monitor is broken, or he has selective fisheye vision?

(edited to make myself a bit more clear.)
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2009, 12:38:23 PM »
So you're saying that perpendicular to the poles, parallel at the equator is NOT how it is on RE?
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2009, 07:43:57 PM »
Geographic Poles =/= Magnetic Poles

Where the Magnetic South Pole is*.

It would be on the surface of the Flat Earth, not underneath.

*Well, an estimate of its location in 2004.
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2009, 07:59:23 PM »
Geographic Poles =/= Magnetic Poles

Where the Magnetic South Pole is*.

It would be on the surface of the Flat Earth, not underneath.

*Well, an estimate of its location in 2004.

Actually, the "magnet" that is responsible for the earth's magnetic poles is located deep inside the earth.  You may have heard it referred to as the earth's core.
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2009, 06:39:05 AM »
Huh, a compass pointing north, weird.

Never heard of that happening before.
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2009, 07:34:07 AM »
I will spread my arms from north to south. I don't get what you're talking about.
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2009, 10:53:50 AM »
Let me get on paint really quick and draw you a picture, you're obviously having some trouble.



The red dot in the center is the north pole, so that's north. Opposite of north is south, so the edge is south.
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2009, 11:00:18 AM »
You asked me where I would point my arms if I was making them parallel to the field lines at the equator. I drew you field lines as they would be (sorta) on a FE that shows they'd be parallel to the equator and pointing from the center of the earth outward.

What more do you want?

Also, who says that the fields would pass through the earth like that? I don't think they would, so I didn't put them on.
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2009, 11:08:10 AM »
It was not my diagram, I never drew it. :P

This was the diagram I posted:

Which doesn't show field lines. The other diagram was because you couldn't understand how field lines work, I guess. I drew my diagram which is more correct than the one that's an overlay of FE on RE's magnetic fields.
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2009, 11:24:49 AM »
PROTIP: I just said I don't believe the field lines would pass through the earth like in the previous given diagram.

I'd draw a better diagram with more lines, but I'm USING PAINT AT WORK.
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2009, 09:12:57 PM »
Magnetic south is the direction opposite to that in which the local magnetic field is oriented.
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2009, 05:07:46 AM »
Magnetic south is the direction opposite to that in which the local magnetic field is oriented.

You don't understand magnetism. I do. You are wrong. Be silent.
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2009, 07:11:28 AM »
You don't understand magnetism. I do. You are wrong. Be silent.

Funny, I could have sworn freely moving magnets aligned themselves with the local magnetic field. You learn something new every day.
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Re: Where is magnetic south under FET?
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2009, 07:52:30 AM »
You don't understand magnetism. I do. You are wrong. Be silent.

Funny, I could have sworn freely moving magnets aligned themselves with the local magnetic field. You learn something new every day.

They align themselves with a field but to say "South is the direction opposite to that in which they align" is wrong. They align themselves in a bidirectional manner. It would be just as accurate to say "North is the direction opposite to that in which the field is oriented." Your description makes it sound as if there's some sort of fundamental difference between north and south. There isn't.
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