Did we evolve form dolphins

I am the type of person that refuses to believe we evolved from apes or even chimps for that matter. I believe we evolved from dolphins due to their nature and how they have aspects that relate highly to that of humans. Dolphins have been around for quite some time now and I believe they have been around before chimps or apes. If anyone can find any descent information on dolphins being closely related to humans I would love to read it. My reasoning for this comes from a few history channel shows and a discovery channel show that pretty much blew apes out of the water for us being closely related to.

You do know that we are apes, right?

You do know that we are apes, right?

lol no read what he posted ffs. We're desended from dolphins, or more correctly cetacea. Please read posts before you reply.

I disagree.  While humans and Dolphins probably have a similar ancestor, that ancestor is millions of years older than the closest human/monkey ancestor.

Aren't we all descended from a small number of things ultimately? I'm never sure if there was just one independant cell at one point, but im farly sure all mammals probably came from more or less the same original species.

ITT: It isn't possible for two separate species to have similarities without them being closely related!

Dolphins share a common ancestry with horses, pigs, and hippos. Not humans.

http://library.thinkquest.org/17963/evolution.html

The closest ancestry we have with dolphins the Eutheria group which began around 125 million years ago. But since then, that group has split into two groups. First is Euarchontoglires which includes humans, other primates, rodents, and rabbits. The other group is Laurasiatheria which includes dolphins, cows, horses, pigs, camels, moles, and bats.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eutheria

Obviously each group has more species, but I don't want to name them all.

ITT: 3-d-w either misunderstands another well-known scientific principle, or trolls.

ITT: 3-d-w either misunderstands another well-known scientific principle, or trolls.

Well, even if he is trolling, I learned something new in my researching. So its a win-win.

3-d-w is a bad troll very bad

The troll that is always coming out of left field.

The troll that is always coming out of left field.

always

Aren't we all descended from a small number of things ultimately? I'm never sure if there was just one independant cell at one point, but im farly sure all mammals probably came from more or less the same original species.

Even single celled organisms are fairly complex creatures, so there were precursors to even them.

Quote from: bowler on August 23, 2010, 01:09:42 PM

Aren't we all descended from a small number of things ultimately? I'm never sure if there was just one independant cell at one point, but im farly sure all mammals probably came from more or less the same original species.

Even single celled organisms are fairly complex creatures, so there were precursors to even them.

you can't have a 1/4 cell organism that doesn't make sense. also if evolution is true why are there different species rather than just one (the best one)

Quote from: EireEngineer on August 25, 2010, 04:22:35 PM

Quote from: bowler on August 23, 2010, 01:09:42 PM

Aren't we all descended from a small number of things ultimately? I'm never sure if there was just one independant cell at one point, but im farly sure all mammals probably came from more or less the same original species.

Even single celled organisms are fairly complex creatures, so there were precursors to even them.

you can't have a 1/4 cell organism that doesn't make sense. also if evolution is true why are there different species rather than just one (the best one)

Scientifically speaking, something can technically be alive without being a eukaryote or prokaryote, such as a virus or even mitochondria.

As for your speciation question, species evolve to fit niches that give them a comparative advantage to survive.  Since their are a myriad of niches, there are a myriad of species.  Thats the simple answer for you, but it is a complex topic.  Maybe dust off your HS biology book?

Quote from: three-dimensional-world on August 25, 2010, 04:24:28 PM

Quote from: EireEngineer on August 25, 2010, 04:22:35 PM

Quote from: bowler on August 23, 2010, 01:09:42 PM

Aren't we all descended from a small number of things ultimately? I'm never sure if there was just one independant cell at one point, but im farly sure all mammals probably came from more or less the same original species.

Even single celled organisms are fairly complex creatures, so there were precursors to even them.

you can't have a 1/4 cell organism that doesn't make sense. also if evolution is true why are there different species rather than just one (the best one)

Scientifically speaking, something can technically be alive without being a eukaryote or prokaryote, such as a virus or even mitochondria.

As for your speciation question, species evolve to fit niches that give them a comparative advantage to survive.  Since their are a myriad of niches, there are a myriad of species.  Thats the simple answer for you, but it is a complex topic.  Maybe dust off your HS biology book?

My HS text book would say a virus is not alive and would contain a six kingdom system. 

At least it could explain basic evolution to you.

Quote from: EireEngineer on August 25, 2010, 04:30:47 PM

Quote from: three-dimensional-world on August 25, 2010, 04:24:28 PM

Quote from: EireEngineer on August 25, 2010, 04:22:35 PM

Quote from: bowler on August 23, 2010, 01:09:42 PM

Aren't we all descended from a small number of things ultimately? I'm never sure if there was just one independant cell at one point, but im farly sure all mammals probably came from more or less the same original species.

Even single celled organisms are fairly complex creatures, so there were precursors to even them.

you can't have a 1/4 cell organism that doesn't make sense. also if evolution is true why are there different species rather than just one (the best one)

Scientifically speaking, something can technically be alive without being a eukaryote or prokaryote, such as a virus or even mitochondria.

As for your speciation question, species evolve to fit niches that give them a comparative advantage to survive.  Since their are a myriad of niches, there are a myriad of species.  Thats the simple answer for you, but it is a complex topic.  Maybe dust off your HS biology book?

My HS text book would say a virus is not alive and would contain a six kingdom system. 

Sometimes I think they change the classifications as often as they do just to irritate people 

you can't have a 1/4 cell organism that doesn't make sense. also if evolution is true why are there different species rather than just one (the best one)

Different forms of life are best suited to different environments, and further, different niches within those environments.

I am the type of person that refuses to believe we evolved from apes or even chimps for that matter. I believe we evolved from dolphins due to their nature and how they have aspects that relate highly to that of humans. Dolphins have been around for quite some time now and I believe they have been around before chimps or apes. If anyone can find any descent information on dolphins being closely related to humans I would love to read it. My reasoning for this comes from a few history channel shows and a discovery channel show that pretty much blew apes out of the water for us being closely related to.

DNA.


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We don't look anything like dolphins lol. Also, the History Channel is BS.

There's a lot we don't know about dolphins. Maybe we could be descended from them. Are you so arrogant as to assume that you know everything?

There's a lot we don't know about dolphins. Maybe we could be descended from them. Are you so arrogant as to assume that you know everything?

I  know that I don't know everything.... Is that arrogant? 

Quote from: Crustinator on September 09, 2010, 02:43:15 PM

There's a lot we don't know about dolphins. Maybe we could be descended from them. Are you so arrogant as to assume that you know everything?

I  know that I don't know everything.... Is that arrogant? 

Yes. You are trying to deny the possibility that you don't know that you don't know everything.

Why is this thread still going? 

I already answered all of the OP's demands and it turns out humans are more related to apes.

Quote from: three-dimensional-world on August 25, 2010, 04:24:28 PM

Quote from: EireEngineer on August 25, 2010, 04:22:35 PM

Quote from: bowler on August 23, 2010, 01:09:42 PM

Aren't we all descended from a small number of things ultimately? I'm never sure if there was just one independant cell at one point, but im farly sure all mammals probably came from more or less the same original species.

Even single celled organisms are fairly complex creatures, so there were precursors to even them.

you can't have a 1/4 cell organism that doesn't make sense. also if evolution is true why are there different species rather than just one (the best one)

Scientifically speaking, something can technically be alive without being a eukaryote or prokaryote, such as a virus or even mitochondria.

As for your speciation question, species evolve to fit niches that give them a comparative advantage to survive.  Since their are a myriad of niches, there are a myriad of species.  Thats the simple answer for you, but it is a complex topic.  Maybe dust off your HS biology book?

Scientifically you are completely wrong.

A virus is not a living thing. A mitochondria is part of a living thing. The original mitochondria was once a free living organism but is now simply an organelle.

Yes, we are descended from dolphins and not apes, yet we have ape skulls, ape ears, ape hands, ape fingerprints, ape teeth and ape penises.  How did we get those if we are not descended from other apes?

It would be impossible for dolphins, which are on an entirely different clade than primates, to evolve traits that are specific only to primates.

Yes, we are descended from dolphins and not apes, yet we have ape skulls, ape ears, ape hands, ape fingerprints, ape teeth and ape penises.  How did we get those if we are not descended from other apes?

It would be impossible for dolphins, which are on an entirely different clade than primates, to evolve traits that are specific only to primates.

Impossible, no.

Okay, but about as probable as two entirely isolated cultures developing the exact same spoken language independently.  Such a finding of primate exclusive traits on a non primate would seriously put doubt on the validity of evolution as a scentific theory.

Okay, but about as probable as two entirely isolated cultures developing the exact same spoken language independently.  Such a finding of primate exclusive traits on a non primate would seriously put doubt on the validity of evolution as a scentific theory.

Yes it is extremely unlikely.