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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #930 on: November 11, 2010, 04:56:26 PM »
Quote from: ClockTower on November 11, 2010, 02:27:52 PM
That's right. If you take the non-colloquial use of the term 'dinosaurs', you'll find that loophole.

God forbid we are scientific at the FES.
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #931 on: November 11, 2010, 05:38:12 PM »
"Contemporary dinosaurs"?
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #932 on: November 11, 2010, 05:52:35 PM »
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 11, 2010, 05:38:12 PM
"Contemporary dinosaurs"?

Contemporary dinosaurs (if you will)...only to differentiate them from extinct dinosaurs.
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #933 on: November 12, 2010, 04:10:52 AM »
Quote from: Eddy Baby on November 12, 2010, 03:44:04 AM
You realise 'dinosaur' is Latin for 'extinct lizard', right?
The Latin translation of extinct lizard becomes Lacerta extincta.
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #934 on: November 12, 2010, 05:20:25 AM »
Quote from: Eddy Baby on November 12, 2010, 03:44:04 AM
You realise 'dinosaur' is Latin for 'extinct lizard', right?
No, 'dinosaur' is Greek for 'terrible (dire) lizard'.
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #935 on: November 12, 2010, 07:21:50 AM »
It doesn't matter what the etymology of the word is; all the dinosaurs are extinct.  Reptiles today may be related to dinosaurs, but that doesn't make them dinosaurs.  Is a house cat a "contemporary sabre-toothed tiger"?  Is a human being a "contemporary Neanderthal"?
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #936 on: November 12, 2010, 07:29:32 AM »
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 12, 2010, 07:21:50 AM
Is a human being a "contemporary Neanderthal"?
There is a theory out there that Neanderthals were absorbed into our gene pool by interbreeding and never became extinct as such..So yes.
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #937 on: November 12, 2010, 07:34:14 AM »
Quote from: spanner34.5 on November 12, 2010, 07:29:32 AM
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 12, 2010, 07:21:50 AM
Is a human being a "contemporary Neanderthal"?
There is a theory out there that Neanderthals were absorbed into our gene pool by interbreeding and never became extinct as such..So yes.

That is a ridiculous theory.
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #938 on: November 12, 2010, 07:37:37 AM »
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 12, 2010, 07:34:14 AM
Quote from: spanner34.5 on November 12, 2010, 07:29:32 AM
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 12, 2010, 07:21:50 AM
Is a human being a "contemporary Neanderthal"?
There is a theory out there that Neanderthals were absorbed into our gene pool by interbreeding and never became extinct as such..So yes.

That is a ridiculous theory.
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/58936/title/Neandertal_genome_yields_evidence_of_interbreeding_with_humans
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #939 on: November 12, 2010, 08:25:56 AM »
Quote from: sillyrob on November 12, 2010, 07:37:37 AM
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 12, 2010, 07:34:14 AM
Quote from: spanner34.5 on November 12, 2010, 07:29:32 AM
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 12, 2010, 07:21:50 AM
Is a human being a "contemporary Neanderthal"?
There is a theory out there that Neanderthals were absorbed into our gene pool by interbreeding and never became extinct as such..So yes.

That is a ridiculous theory.
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/58936/title/Neandertal_genome_yields_evidence_of_interbreeding_with_humans

Damn it!  I hate being proven wrong.
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #940 on: November 12, 2010, 08:28:28 AM »
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 12, 2010, 08:25:56 AM
Quote from: sillyrob on November 12, 2010, 07:37:37 AM
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 12, 2010, 07:34:14 AM
Quote from: spanner34.5 on November 12, 2010, 07:29:32 AM
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 12, 2010, 07:21:50 AM
Is a human being a "contemporary Neanderthal"?
There is a theory out there that Neanderthals were absorbed into our gene pool by interbreeding and never became extinct as such..So yes.

That is a ridiculous theory.
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/58936/title/Neandertal_genome_yields_evidence_of_interbreeding_with_humans

Damn it!  I hate being proven wrong.
That's cause you're dumb and you post dumb things.
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #941 on: November 12, 2010, 08:32:08 AM »
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 12, 2010, 08:25:56 AM
Quote from: sillyrob on November 12, 2010, 07:37:37 AM
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 12, 2010, 07:34:14 AM
Quote from: spanner34.5 on November 12, 2010, 07:29:32 AM
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 12, 2010, 07:21:50 AM
Is a human being a "contemporary Neanderthal"?
There is a theory out there that Neanderthals were absorbed into our gene pool by interbreeding and never became extinct as such..So yes.

That is a ridiculous theory.
http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/58936/title/Neandertal_genome_yields_evidence_of_interbreeding_with_humans

Damn it!  I hate being proven wrong.
I don't think anything has been proven, still just a strong theory.
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Saddam Hussein

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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #942 on: November 12, 2010, 09:09:47 AM »
They told me the exact opposite when I was in school.  Damn these new theories.
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #943 on: November 12, 2010, 02:20:10 PM »
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 12, 2010, 07:21:50 AM
It doesn't matter what the etymology of the word is; all the dinosaurs are extinct.  Reptiles today may be related to dinosaurs, but that doesn't make them dinosaurs.  Is a house cat a "contemporary sabre-toothed tiger"?  Is a human being a "contemporary Neanderthal"?

Nobody is claiming that modern reptiles are dinosaurs - they aren't. Modern birds are dinosaurs.

Quote from: Ikn0Witall on November 11, 2010, 01:08:14 PM
Saying that dinosaurs exist is like saying unicorns exist just a bunch of hogwash

A rhinoceros is a species of unicorn. Do you claim that the rhinoceros does not exist?
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #944 on: November 12, 2010, 03:45:19 PM »
Quote from: James on November 12, 2010, 02:20:10 PM
Nobody is claiming that modern reptiles are dinosaurs - they aren't. Modern birds are dinosaurs.

The tree of life that gives itself a reach around?

Tell us more James/
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #945 on: November 12, 2010, 04:21:26 PM »
Avians are direct descendants of dromaeosaurids. There is no genealogical "reach around".
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #946 on: November 12, 2010, 05:14:32 PM »
Wait, rhinos are a breed of unicorn? Please explain more. Also, check your facts when it comes to whales evolving from wolves, I think you'll find yourself wrong. I believe it was a "wolf sized carnivore" with a skull similar to a whale that they found. You should spend more time on the anti-moon and the sun putting fires out.
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #947 on: November 12, 2010, 05:38:55 PM »
Quote from: James on November 12, 2010, 04:21:26 PM
Avians are direct descendants of dromaeosaurids. There is no genealogical "reach around".

Direct descendent /= the same.

Even for you James this fail is epic. Any more?
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #948 on: November 12, 2010, 06:31:35 PM »
Question:
As far as I know, and I might be wrong, White sharks and Crocodiles haven't evolved much in the last thousand years, could we say that at least crocodiles are dinosaurs?
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #949 on: November 12, 2010, 06:39:19 PM »
No, they are crocodiles and sharks! Why would they be dinosaurs?
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #950 on: November 12, 2010, 06:40:32 PM »
Quote from: James on November 12, 2010, 06:39:19 PM
No, they are crocodiles and sharks! Why would they be dinosaurs?
I'm going to go with the claim that James evolved from crocodiles and sharks.
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #951 on: November 12, 2010, 06:49:25 PM »
Quote from: James on November 12, 2010, 06:39:19 PM
No, they are crocodiles and sharks! Why would they be dinosaurs?

K, forget the sharks, let's keep with the crocodiles, they have been existing since the time of the dinosaurs as we all understand it, only that they were bigger, or had larger mouths, and during all this time, they have just shrinked, but their anatomy is the same that back then. And they are reptiles, cold blood, carnivores... So I think that they are dinosaurs that have survived until our days.
Or do they just don't fit into the definition of "dinosaur"? I think they do. If not I'd like to read why.
I would look for it myself, but it's 3:50 in the night, I just came from a party and I'm going to sleep, so I'll be glad to read about it tomorrow. Good night!
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #952 on: November 12, 2010, 06:51:34 PM »
Actually Kira-SY, is commonly know that birds are more direct desendents of dinosaurs than crocodiles.
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #953 on: November 13, 2010, 04:51:16 AM »
Aye aye, I know, but those are the dinos that evolved, Crocodiles didn't.
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #954 on: November 13, 2010, 06:45:48 AM »
Quote from: Kira-SY on November 13, 2010, 04:51:16 AM
Aye aye, I know, but those are the dinos that evolved, Crocodiles didn't.

They did too.
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #955 on: November 13, 2010, 10:44:17 AM »
Quote from: Kira-SY on November 13, 2010, 04:51:16 AM
Aye aye, I know, but those are the dinos that evolved, Crocodiles didn't.

Sure they did. Are you suggesting that the exact same species of crocodile lives today as did millions of years ago?
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #956 on: November 13, 2010, 10:52:04 AM »
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on November 13, 2010, 10:44:17 AM
Quote from: Kira-SY on November 13, 2010, 04:51:16 AM
Aye aye, I know, but those are the dinos that evolved, Crocodiles didn't.

Sure they did. Are you suggesting that the exact same species of crocodile lives today as did millions of years ago?
Please provide evidence to support your outlandish claim. Surely you haven't personally attempted to interbred every single crocodile of millions of years ago with every live crocodile. (I only make this claim based on your challenge about asking everyone whether they believe that the Earth is round before saying that the majority believe it so.)
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #957 on: November 13, 2010, 12:24:36 PM »
Quote from: ClockTower on November 13, 2010, 10:52:04 AM
(I only make this claim based on your challenge about asking everyone whether they believe that the Earth is round before saying that the majority believe it so.)

I challenged his claim because in many third world countries, many people are such horrid conditions, i seriously doubt they have considered the shape of the Earth, or have any clue why it should be a certain shape.

They have other things that they are thinking about, like, where their next meal is going to come from, or how not tot get shot be the local warlord. I seriously doubt many of these people have even considered the shape of the Earth, so to say the majority of the world thinks a certain way is ludicrous when part of the world doesn't even get the luxury to sit around and thing about such things.
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #958 on: November 13, 2010, 12:35:08 PM »
This website explains very well what I meant, if you want to go to the Sharks and Crocodiles directly, it's right after the last image:

http://hubpages.com/hub/Some-Organisms-do-not-Evolve-into-more-Complex-Forms
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Re: James's theory on dinosaurs
« Reply #959 on: November 13, 2010, 02:30:50 PM »
Quote from: Kira-SY on November 13, 2010, 12:35:08 PM
This website explains very well what I meant, if you want to go to the Sharks and Crocodiles directly, it's right after the last image:

http://hubpages.com/hub/Some-Organisms-do-not-Evolve-into-more-Complex-Forms

Wow. Whoever made that page got their understanding of evolution from pokemon I'm guessing.

Complex is a relative term, any change in an organism to better survive in its new environment, (even if it is a tiny change like the shape of blood cells) changes the organism. Is it now more complex? Who knows. Is it evolving? Yes.

While it is possible for an organism to exist for millions of years without building up mutations in its genome, it is so unlikely odds are that it would not happen in this universe.

All organisms evolve.
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