James's theory on dinosaurs

Quote from: Thermal Detonator on March 15, 2010, 06:39:14 PM

But a small appetizer, a soupcon of the sea of drivel one has to wade through when reading posts by Mad James, spectacular in their nonsense quotient.

Keep on topic.  Also, that made no sense.

I agree it was off topic, for which I apologise. I do think it makes sense, however.

Quote from: John Davis on March 17, 2010, 12:27:02 PM

Quote from: Thermal Detonator on March 15, 2010, 06:39:14 PM

But a small appetizer, a soupcon of the sea of drivel one has to wade through when reading posts by Mad James, spectacular in their nonsense quotient.

Keep on topic.  Also, that made no sense.

I agree it was off topic, for which I apologise. I do think it makes sense, however.

Actually I think that nonsense is on-topic for this topic.

Quote from: Plebb on February 24, 2010, 01:06:31 PM

Anything can be used as a fuel. If ants can make fire then I don't see why dinosaurs can't.

When do ants make fire?!?!?!

If ants are able to create vast tunnels and dungeons, it is not unlikely that their massive prehistoric ancestors were capable of rubbing two sticks together. Furthermore, it could have been used as a sort of warfare against other ants. This and scaring wild dinosaurs away from their tunnels, it would have been very beneficial for ants to use fire.

Furthermore, if ants were able create fire, then they most likely would have been able to heat clay or metals to make basic utensils or tools. In fact, since they have more limbs and thus more dexterity than humans, their tools would have been even more advanced and intricate than anything that our ancestors were capable of making.

Ants very well could have been the equivalent of the modern day blacksmith.

Got tired of trolling current topics and decided to necro-troll, I see.

If ants are able to create vast tunnels and dungeons, it is not unlikely that their massive prehistoric ancestors were capable of rubbing two sticks together.

Have you ever tried making fire by rubbing two sticks together?  It's not as easy as you might think.  Trust me, it's a lot easier for an ant to dig a tunnel than a creature with no opposable thumbs to rub two sticks together and make fire.

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on September 10, 2010, 12:17:03 PM

If ants are able to create vast tunnels and dungeons, it is not unlikely that their massive prehistoric ancestors were capable of rubbing two sticks together.

Have you ever tried making fire by rubbing two sticks together?  It's not as easy as you might think.  Trust me, it's a lot easier for an ant to dig a tunnel than a creature with no opposable thumbs to rub two sticks together and make fire.

You don't need opposable thumbs to start a fire with a stick using the drill method.

You don't need opposable thumbs to start a fire with a stick using the drill method.

But I guess you need a drill.

I am glad this thread is

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on September 10, 2010, 04:07:28 PM

You don't need opposable thumbs to start a fire with a stick using the drill method.

But I guess you need a drill.

I am glad this thread is

The drill is the stick...

The ants were much larger, too, back in the eocene epoch.  They averaged between 1 and 2 inches so their larger appendages could employ a larger stick than the ants of today making a more useful fire for them.

The drill is the stick...

Explain further. Perhaps a diagram of an ant with said apparatus would help you get your point across.

Quote from: markjo on September 10, 2010, 02:22:39 PM

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on September 10, 2010, 12:17:03 PM

If ants are able to create vast tunnels and dungeons, it is not unlikely that their massive prehistoric ancestors were capable of rubbing two sticks together.

Have you ever tried making fire by rubbing two sticks together?  It's not as easy as you might think.  Trust me, it's a lot easier for an ant to dig a tunnel than a creature with no opposable thumbs to rub two sticks together and make fire.

You don't need opposable thumbs to start a fire with a stick using the drill method.

Have you ever successfully started a fire with a stick using the drill method without using your thumbs during any part of the process?  Remember that there is more to the drill method than just spinning the drill back and forth.

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on September 10, 2010, 04:07:28 PM

Quote from: markjo on September 10, 2010, 02:22:39 PM

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on September 10, 2010, 12:17:03 PM

If ants are able to create vast tunnels and dungeons, it is not unlikely that their massive prehistoric ancestors were capable of rubbing two sticks together.

Have you ever tried making fire by rubbing two sticks together?  It's not as easy as you might think.  Trust me, it's a lot easier for an ant to dig a tunnel than a creature with no opposable thumbs to rub two sticks together and make fire.

You don't need opposable thumbs to start a fire with a stick using the drill method.

Have you ever successfully started a fire with a stick using the drill method without using your thumbs during any part of the process?  Remember that there is more to the drill method than just spinning the drill back and forth.

Bear Grylls starts fire by rubbing a stick back and forth all the time.

Bear Grylls starts fire by rubbing a fire back and forth all the time.

I am struck in awe at the mere image of somebody rubbing a fire. Doesn't he get burns by rubbing fire?

I have watched his show many times, and have never seen Bear Grylls rubbing a fire.

Quote from: markjo on September 11, 2010, 07:15:39 PM

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on September 10, 2010, 04:07:28 PM

Quote from: markjo on September 10, 2010, 02:22:39 PM

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on September 10, 2010, 12:17:03 PM

If ants are able to create vast tunnels and dungeons, it is not unlikely that their massive prehistoric ancestors were capable of rubbing two sticks together.

Have you ever tried making fire by rubbing two sticks together?  It's not as easy as you might think.  Trust me, it's a lot easier for an ant to dig a tunnel than a creature with no opposable thumbs to rub two sticks together and make fire.

You don't need opposable thumbs to start a fire with a stick using the drill method.

Have you ever successfully started a fire with a stick using the drill method without using your thumbs during any part of the process?  Remember that there is more to the drill method than just spinning the drill back and forth.

Bear Grylls starts fire by rubbing a fire back and forth all the time.

I didn't ask if Bear Grylls (or any other survival expert) has ever started a fire by rubbing a fire back and forth, I asked if you had.  Besides, I'm fairly sure that Bear Grylls still has full use of his thumbs.

I didn't ask if Bear Grylls (or any other survival expert) has ever started a fire by rubbing a fire back and forth, I asked if you had.  Besides, I'm fairly sure that Bear Grylls still has full use of his thumbs.

The whole idea of this thread is so ludicrous that there is not much to discuss here. Should we continue to make fun at the expense of EnglshGentleman for not knowing the difference between rubbing a fire and rubbing sticks to produce fire? Or should we spend another month or so trying to explain that total lack of evidence means total lack of a meaningful hypothesis?

We can discuss the need of opposable thumbs, the need for intelligence beyond what has been demonstrated in any dinosaurs, the need for a society that creates many technological advancements even before they create a seafaring boat. But what we cannot forget is that no evidence has been shown for anything at all.

You're forgetting one of the main tenets of FET, "If it even remotely might have a slight chance of being possible, it MUST be true! (but only if it supports the idea of a flat Earth)"

Bear Grylls starts fire by rubbing a stick back and forth all the time.

 

the need for intelligence beyond what has been demonstrated in any dinosaurs

Really? You mean you have gone back in time and witnessed that Dinosaurs were not intelligent enough to make fire or build a boat?

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on September 11, 2010, 11:55:24 PM

Bear Grylls starts fire by rubbing a stick back and forth all the time.

 

Quote from: trig on September 12, 2010, 11:43:50 AM

the need for intelligence beyond what has been demonstrated in any dinosaurs

Really? You mean you have gone back in time and witnessed that Dinosaurs were not intelligent enough to make fire or build a boat?

So again, this descends to a "no u" contest. Please demonstrate that dinosaurs were intelligent enough to make fire and build a boat. There is no evidence to suggest they were unless you can provide some.

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on September 11, 2010, 11:55:24 PM

Bear Grylls starts fire by rubbing a stick back and forth all the time.

 

Quote from: trig on September 12, 2010, 11:43:50 AM

the need for intelligence beyond what has been demonstrated in any dinosaurs

Really? You mean you have gone back in time and witnessed that Dinosaurs were not intelligent enough to make fire or build a boat?

What are you talking about? Pixie fairies killed them off before they could get that smart.

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on September 12, 2010, 05:04:37 PM

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on September 11, 2010, 11:55:24 PM

Bear Grylls starts fire by rubbing a stick back and forth all the time.

 

Quote from: trig on September 12, 2010, 11:43:50 AM

the need for intelligence beyond what has been demonstrated in any dinosaurs

Really? You mean you have gone back in time and witnessed that Dinosaurs were not intelligent enough to make fire or build a boat?

So again, this descends to a "no u" contest. Please demonstrate that dinosaurs were intelligent enough to make fire and build a boat. There is no evidence to suggest they were unless you can provide some.

This isn't a "no u" contest. Trig said it has been demonstrated that dinosaurs are not intelligent enough. I want to hear these demonstrations that he claims have happened.

Lurk moar. Plenty of evidence concerning the intelligence of dinosaurs has been posted in this thread.

Lurk moar. Plenty of evidence concerning the intelligence of dinosaurs has been posted in this thread.

That isn't evidence. That is conjecture. Where is the proof?

Quote from: General Disarray on September 12, 2010, 10:21:18 PM

Lurk moar. Plenty of evidence concerning the intelligence of dinosaurs has been posted in this thread.

That isn't evidence. That is conjecture. Where is the proof?

Wizards and Fairies killed them:

ANTIGUA-Land-Fairies-Wizards-Heroes

Then fire came right out of his nostrils. The Wizard Thandor held his mighty wand up toward the sky and yelled, "Mighty clouds of the sky, I call upon you to bring forth lightening to destroy the Dragon Voltar!"

Quote from: General Disarray on September 12, 2010, 10:21:18 PM

Lurk moar. Plenty of evidence concerning the intelligence of dinosaurs has been posted in this thread.

That isn't evidence. That is conjecture. Where is the proof?

If I remember correctly, it was in fact agreed nearly unanimously, if not unanimously, by members of both sides of the debate that there has been no true proof that the dinosaurs weren't intelligent.

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on September 12, 2010, 10:23:26 PM

Quote from: General Disarray on September 12, 2010, 10:21:18 PM

Lurk moar. Plenty of evidence concerning the intelligence of dinosaurs has been posted in this thread.

That isn't evidence. That is conjecture. Where is the proof?

If I remember correctly, it was in fact agreed nearly unanimously, if not unanimously, by members of both sides of the debate that there has been no true proof that the dinosaurs weren't intelligent.

If they were intelligent they wouldn't have gone the way of the dodo bird They should have remained the lords of the Earth until such day the Earth is to be destroyed.

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on September 12, 2010, 10:34:21 PM

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on September 12, 2010, 10:23:26 PM

Quote from: General Disarray on September 12, 2010, 10:21:18 PM

Lurk moar. Plenty of evidence concerning the intelligence of dinosaurs has been posted in this thread.

That isn't evidence. That is conjecture. Where is the proof?

If I remember correctly, it was in fact agreed nearly unanimously, if not unanimously, by members of both sides of the debate that there has been no true proof that the dinosaurs weren't intelligent.

If they were intelligent they wouldn't have gone the way of the dodo bird They should have remained the lords of the Earth until such day the Earth is to be destroyed.

Yeah because there's nothing that could happen to the Earth now that could conceivably kill all humans lol.

Quote from: TheJackel on September 12, 2010, 10:38:37 PM

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on September 12, 2010, 10:34:21 PM

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on September 12, 2010, 10:23:26 PM

Quote from: General Disarray on September 12, 2010, 10:21:18 PM

Lurk moar. Plenty of evidence concerning the intelligence of dinosaurs has been posted in this thread.

That isn't evidence. That is conjecture. Where is the proof?

If I remember correctly, it was in fact agreed nearly unanimously, if not unanimously, by members of both sides of the debate that there has been no true proof that the dinosaurs weren't intelligent.

If they were intelligent they wouldn't have gone the way of the dodo bird They should have remained the lords of the Earth until such day the Earth is to be destroyed.

Yeah because there's nothing that could happen to the Earth now that could conceivably kill all humans lol.

If we are truly intelligent, that will never happen. Perhaps you are implying we humans are dumb? Perhaps in 400 years we will see the Planet of the Apes, and maybe even intelligent bugs ruling Earth where the Starship Troopers all get ripped apart and even out smarted by the Brain Bugs!

No, the dinosaurs were not intelligent enough to build fire. Their EQ was less than 1. Reference: http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/01/04/dinosaur-intelligence.html

Trig said it has been demonstrated that dinosaurs are not intelligent enough. I want to hear these demonstrations that he claims have happened.

The one which is showing a disturbing lack of intelligence (or at least of reading skills) is EnglshGentleman. Trig said there is no demonstration that dinosaurs were intelligent enough to build significant tools.

Since poorly educated people like EnglshGentleman like to tell stories for which there is absolutely no evidence, but then get hassled for the evidence they cannot show, they try to shift the argument around.