Warn away John, but at least have the decency to try and answer my questions on UA, time dilation and the apparent lack of redshift and an event horizon, not to mention the absurdity of the moon and sun being able to circle (not orbit) a non gravitational body. Or even how that body doesn't possess gravity when it's 30,000 km across and 9,000km deep and very obviously possesses mass. Do it in the threads the questions were asked in by all means, before they were derailed by your cohorts who keep trying to wrap arguments up in ridiculous nitpicking. You seem to be the only one here with any genuine knowledge and the only one prepared to at least try and answer them. As for derailing the thread, didn't that happen on page 1?