I do not think HaraTaiki should be a mod.

I have found HaraTaiki to be a terrible moderator. His "Fuck off and die" attitude towards the community is offensive, and prevents him from accepting any advice or criticism from the community. I am sure many members of this site would agree with me.

As a member of Steven's army of tards, I sign.

More clarification in the beginning would have greatly improved the situation, in my opinion.
I believe that the current ban (1 month for reporting the thread) is reasonable, although I maintain that the initial permaban for proxy lurking was ridiculous. The refusal to explain further did not help things.

More clarification in the beginning would have greatly improved the situation, in my opinion.

Honestly, this is not the first time Hara's moderation "style" has been counter-productive.

I feel he's doing fine. Getting rid of spammers and fake FET posters is all I could ask for.

Honestly, the only person that would get a response would be the person getting punished. We don't necessarily have to answer to anyone that's not involved. If we do, it's completely voluntary.

And honestly, I've done far better than you cretin's give credit for. Just because your beloved spam master was banned for just that, you all decide to go BAWWWW BAD MOD BAD.

And frankly, TheEngineer was far more stern about things than I am.

Honestly, the only person that would get a response would be the person getting punished. We don't necessarily have to answer to anyone that's not involved. If we do, it's completely voluntary.

And honestly, I've done far better than you cretin's give credit for. Just because your beloved spam master was banned for just that, you all decide to go BAWWWW BAD MOD BAD.

And frankly, TheEngineer was far more stern about things than I am.

It's not just that, people also have a problem with your sucky attitude.

Quote from: Hara Taiki on November 03, 2009, 08:24:24 PM

Honestly, the only person that would get a response would be the person getting punished. We don't necessarily have to answer to anyone that's not involved. If we do, it's completely voluntary.

And honestly, I've done far better than you cretin's give credit for. Just because your beloved spam master was banned for just that, you all decide to go BAWWWW BAD MOD BAD.

And frankly, TheEngineer was far more stern about things than I am.

It's not just that, people also have a problem with your sucky attitude.

That's too bad. I didn't ask for a vote on my attitude, this isn't a democracy. Deal with it.

And honestly, I've done far better than you cretin's give credit for. Just because your beloved spam master was banned for just that, you all decide to go BAWWWW BAD MOD BAD.

Hara, this has been a long time coming. A know that members have complained in the past about you, and your tough, "I don't give a care" persona. This latest incident is simply the latest chapter in a long book of shitty moderation.

That's too bad. I didn't ask for a vote on my attitude, this isn't a democracy. Deal with it.

Your attitude is counter-productive to you properly doing your job as a mod.

Quote from: Hara Taiki on November 03, 2009, 08:24:24 PM

And honestly, I've done far better than you cretin's give credit for. Just because your beloved spam master was banned for just that, you all decide to go BAWWWW BAD MOD BAD.

Hara, this has been a long time coming. A know that members have complained in the past about you, and your tough, "I don't give a care" persona. This latest incident is simply the latest chapter in a long book of shitty moderation.

Quote from: Hara Taiki on November 03, 2009, 08:27:21 PM

That's too bad. I didn't ask for a vote on my attitude, this isn't a democracy. Deal with it.

Your attitude is counter-productive to you properly doing your job as a mod.

Really? I can recall a time when I did it a great service.

This is quite funny coming from a bunch of spammers and trolls.

Lol, we are spammers and trolls? Maybe, how does that make you any less of a douche?

Really? I can recall a time when I did it a great service.

That time is past. Now your attitude it harmful to the forum.

This is quite funny coming from a bunch of spammers and trolls.

I refrained from making this personal, thinking a moderator would also do the same.  Honestly, as a person, I have nothing against you. As a moderator, you are terrible.

Quote from: Hara Taiki on November 03, 2009, 08:33:47 PM

Really? I can recall a time when I did it a great service.

That time is past. Now your attitude it harmful to the forum.

Quote from: Hara Taiki on November 03, 2009, 08:33:47 PM

This is quite funny coming from a bunch of spammers and trolls.

I refrained from making this personal, thinking a moderator would also do the same.  Honestly, as a person, I have nothing against you. As a moderator, you are terrible.

And as a poster on the forum, you're a nuisance.

And you are a douche. The thing is, he isn't a moderator.

Quote from: Waste of Mind on November 03, 2009, 08:39:40 PM

Quote from: Hara Taiki on November 03, 2009, 08:33:47 PM

Really? I can recall a time when I did it a great service.

That time is past. Now your attitude it harmful to the forum.

Quote from: Hara Taiki on November 03, 2009, 08:33:47 PM

This is quite funny coming from a bunch of spammers and trolls.

I refrained from making this personal, thinking a moderator would also do the same.  Honestly, as a person, I have nothing against you. As a moderator, you are terrible.

And as a poster on the forum, you're a nuisance.

I think you've said all I wanted to know. You are completely unwilling to change your attitude, despite it's harmful nature.

Quote from: Hara Taiki on November 03, 2009, 08:40:50 PM

Quote from: Waste of Mind on November 03, 2009, 08:39:40 PM

Quote from: Hara Taiki on November 03, 2009, 08:33:47 PM

Really? I can recall a time when I did it a great service.

That time is past. Now your attitude it harmful to the forum.

Quote from: Hara Taiki on November 03, 2009, 08:33:47 PM

This is quite funny coming from a bunch of spammers and trolls.

I refrained from making this personal, thinking a moderator would also do the same.  Honestly, as a person, I have nothing against you. As a moderator, you are terrible.

And as a poster on the forum, you're a nuisance.

I think you've said all I wanted to know. You are completely unwilling to change your attitude, despite it's harmful nature.

You must mistake me for someone who bans for no reason at like. Like on 4chan or something.

And frankly, TheEngineer was far more stern about things than I am.

You forget he was far more intelligent and witty, too.

Quote from: Hara Taiki on November 03, 2009, 08:24:24 PM

And frankly, TheEngineer was far more stern about things than I am.

You forget he was far more intelligent and witty, too.

Irrelevant.

Quote from: parsec on November 03, 2009, 08:52:42 PM

Quote from: Hara Taiki on November 03, 2009, 08:24:24 PM

And frankly, TheEngineer was far more stern about things than I am.

You forget he was far more intelligent and witty, too.

Irrelevant.

One ought to expect such a statement from someone as you.

One thing that Hara doesn't seem to (or doesn't want to) understand is that as a moderator, he is in a position of authority and therefore needs set the example for conduct on this board. 

One thing that Hara doesn't seem to (or doesn't want to) understand is that as a moderator, he is in a position of authority and therefore needs set the example for conduct on this board. 

You could say the same for Raist 

Quote from: markjo on November 03, 2009, 09:33:19 PM

One thing that Hara doesn't seem to (or doesn't want to) understand is that as a moderator, he is in a position of authority and therefore needs set the example for conduct on this board. 

You could say the same for Raist 

I probably have.  I've been in more than one discussion about the behavior of some of the mods.

One thing that Hara doesn't seem to (or doesn't want to) understand is that as a moderator, he is in a position of authority and therefore needs set the example for conduct on this board. 

If I acted as you are suggesting, then most of you actually would be banned. However, I do not rule by emotion. I rule by logic and make all my arguments based on that alone. The tone is not suggestive at all and you're trying to find a vector of attack on why I shouldn't be a mod. I do not have to kiss your asses, I have to kiss Daniel's. If that means banning when I deem appropriate according to the criteria I will do so and if need be the actions will be discussed civilly where it belongs; in the mod forum. Nepotism is not something I practice.

you know there is a green dot next to your name when you are on and grey when youre not on this board right? oh and this should be in the suggestions forum.....

you know there is a green dot next to your name when you are on and grey when youre not on this board right? oh and this should be in the suggestions forum.....

This post raises several questions.  First, yes, I would imagine that most of us know about that, who exactly were you addressing?  Second, isn't it kind of obvious that this is the suggestions forum?  Third, what does your question have to do with this thread?

Quote from: markjo on November 03, 2009, 09:33:19 PM

One thing that Hara doesn't seem to (or doesn't want to) understand is that as a moderator, he is in a position of authority and therefore needs set the example for conduct on this board. 

You could say the same for Raist 

I'm a 20 year old college student. If adults need me to set an example for them their mommy didn't raise them right.

Quote from: frostee on November 03, 2009, 09:34:45 PM

Quote from: markjo on November 03, 2009, 09:33:19 PM

One thing that Hara doesn't seem to (or doesn't want to) understand is that as a moderator, he is in a position of authority and therefore needs set the example for conduct on this board. 

You could say the same for Raist 

I'm a 20 year old college student. If adults need me to set an example for them their mommy didn't raise them right.

Are you saying that you shouldn't be in a position of authority?  Perhaps it was your mommy that didn't raise you right.  You know was well as anyone that there are a fair number of regulars here that are under 18.

Quote from: Raist on November 13, 2009, 11:17:25 AM

Quote from: frostee on November 03, 2009, 09:34:45 PM

Quote from: markjo on November 03, 2009, 09:33:19 PM

One thing that Hara doesn't seem to (or doesn't want to) understand is that as a moderator, he is in a position of authority and therefore needs set the example for conduct on this board.  

You could say the same for Raist  

I'm a 20 year old college student. If adults need me to set an example for them their mommy didn't raise them right.

Are you saying that you shouldn't be in a position of authority?  Perhaps it was your mommy that didn't raise you right.  You know was well as anyone that there are a fair number of regulars here that are under 18.

And if they do not know how to behave themselves they shouldn't be here. I am here to keep the forums clean, not raise you. I find it pathetic that any adult needs an example set for them. In fact on multiple occasions I've had to warn adults about their behavior. If that isn't pathetic I don't know what is. I hold higher standards for my 10 year old little brothers than I do for most people here. I actually don't have to tell them what they did wrong.

@eddy, I'm glad you think I'm fair, that's all I try to be. I tend not to be very emotional, just kind of condescending and violent. Internet hivemind effect maybe?

I find it pathetic that any adult needs an example set for them. In fact on multiple occasions I've had to warn adults about their behavior. If that isn't pathetic I don't know what is. I hold higher standards for my 10 year old little brothers than I do for most people here. I actually don't have to tell them what they did wrong.

*sigh*  No one is asking you to raise anyone's children (or adults) here.  All I'm saying is that if your responsibility is to police the forums for unacceptable behavior, then you should be following the rules that you are supposed to be enforcing.  Nobody likes a dirty cop.

Quote from: Raist on November 13, 2009, 11:30:27 AM

I find it pathetic that any adult needs an example set for them. In fact on multiple occasions I've had to warn adults about their behavior. If that isn't pathetic I don't know what is. I hold higher standards for my 10 year old little brothers than I do for most people here. I actually don't have to tell them what they did wrong.

*sigh*  No one is asking you to raise anyone's children (or adults) here.  All I'm saying is that if your responsibility is to police the forums for unacceptable behavior, then you should be following the rules that you are supposed to be enforcing.  Nobody likes a dirty cop.

I think I understand your general point, and as much as I hate to bring him up again, that's probably one of the reasons why, say, Parsifal was demodded.  But does Raist really break the rules that he's supposed to be enforcing?  Yes, he is a little more laid-back and less stiff and formal than the other mods, but he's serious when he needs to be, and he keeps his low-content posting in the lower forums.  The only time I can really think of where he skirted the line since becoming mod was his feud with James in CN, and he's been a good mod ever since.