I do not think HaraTaiki should be a mod.

I think I understand your general point, and as much as I hate to bring him up again, that's probably one of the reasons why, say, Parsifal was demodded.  But does Raist really break the rules that he's supposed to be enforcing?  Yes, he is a little more laid-back and less stiff and formal than the other mods, but he's serious when he needs to be, and he keeps his low-content posting in the lower forums.  The only time I can really think of where he skirted the line since becoming mod was his feud with James in CN, and he's been a good mod ever since.

To be honest, I really don't pay too much attention to either Raist or Hara unless unless they really start getting obnoxious.  Once in a while may call them on it, but I don't really keep track of who is being a jerk when.  As long as the mods can enforce the rules fairly and stay reasonably civil (even to the angry noobs), then I have no problem with any of them.

All mods are evil and terrible people. I'll turn bad soon enough, I'm just biding my time.

Can we split Markjo's BAWWW about Raist into another thread?

Can we split Markjo's BAWWW about Raist into another thread?

I'd say "Shut up, Kingman", but I don't want to get into trouble with an evil mod.

Quote from: markjo on November 13, 2009, 12:29:45 PM

Quote from: Raist on November 13, 2009, 11:30:27 AM

I find it pathetic that any adult needs an example set for them. In fact on multiple occasions I've had to warn adults about their behavior. If that isn't pathetic I don't know what is. I hold higher standards for my 10 year old little brothers than I do for most people here. I actually don't have to tell them what they did wrong.

*sigh*  No one is asking you to raise anyone's children (or adults) here.  All I'm saying is that if your responsibility is to police the forums for unacceptable behavior, then you should be following the rules that you are supposed to be enforcing.  Nobody likes a dirty cop.

I think I understand your general point, and as much as I hate to bring him up again, that's probably one of the reasons why, say, Parsifal was demodded.  But does Raist really break the rules that he's supposed to be enforcing?  Yes, he is a little more laid-back and less stiff and formal than the other mods, but he's serious when he needs to be, and he keeps his low-content posting in the lower forums.  The only time I can really think of where he skirted the line since becoming mod was his feud with James in CN, and he's been a good mod ever since.

I break rules? Also my feud with james broke no rules. He was the one in the wrong.

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on November 13, 2009, 02:12:38 PM

Quote from: markjo on November 13, 2009, 12:29:45 PM

Quote from: Raist on November 13, 2009, 11:30:27 AM

I find it pathetic that any adult needs an example set for them. In fact on multiple occasions I've had to warn adults about their behavior. If that isn't pathetic I don't know what is. I hold higher standards for my 10 year old little brothers than I do for most people here. I actually don't have to tell them what they did wrong.

*sigh*  No one is asking you to raise anyone's children (or adults) here.  All I'm saying is that if your responsibility is to police the forums for unacceptable behavior, then you should be following the rules that you are supposed to be enforcing.  Nobody likes a dirty cop.

I think I understand your general point, and as much as I hate to bring him up again, that's probably one of the reasons why, say, Parsifal was demodded.  But does Raist really break the rules that he's supposed to be enforcing?  Yes, he is a little more laid-back and less stiff and formal than the other mods, but he's serious when he needs to be, and he keeps his low-content posting in the lower forums.  The only time I can really think of where he skirted the line since becoming mod was his feud with James in CN, and he's been a good mod ever since.

I break rules? Also my feud with james broke no rules. He was the one in the wrong.

I don't think you break rules, I was just phrasing that as a question.  As for James, I know you didn't break any rules, but you have to admit that it doesn't send a great impression when a mod makes a thread making a joke that blacks are inferior.

Oh yes, because any joke about race is horribly wrong and offensive. Making a joke based on someone's genes is a terribly insensitive thing to do and lead to such horrible things as AIDS, and Jesus dying.

Quote from: markjo on November 13, 2009, 11:26:01 AM

Quote from: Raist on November 13, 2009, 11:17:25 AM

Quote from: frostee on November 03, 2009, 09:34:45 PM

Quote from: markjo on November 03, 2009, 09:33:19 PM

One thing that Hara doesn't seem to (or doesn't want to) understand is that as a moderator, he is in a position of authority and therefore needs set the example for conduct on this board.  

You could say the same for Raist  

I'm a 20 year old college student. If adults need me to set an example for them their mommy didn't raise them right.

Are you saying that you shouldn't be in a position of authority?  Perhaps it was your mommy that didn't raise you right.  You know was well as anyone that there are a fair number of regulars here that are under 18.

Maybe there should be some sort of official clarification for this. I came to the conclusion long ago that, although Hara and Raist (in my opinion) moderate fairly, they don't hesitate to show their emotions.

As every other person in the world, I defend my ideas and opinions. Unlike most, I defend them quite strongly. I usually try not to make mistakes and I try and make sure I know all the facts before I talk about something.  Sometimes there might be some emotion in it, and like everyone else, I get aggravated as well. Sometimes, it shows. Other times, not so much. But I am only human, not a robot*. You can't expect perfection at every moment. I also try and mod fairly, but again, mistakes happen. I am not afraid to admit when I make a mistake either, because, like I said, I am only human*.

If you have a serious issue, it's always best to calmly and politely bring the matter to my attention directly. I am more than willing to work with a civil person. If you come to me and just bawww and scream and yell like a 4 year old, I am more than likely going to tell you to screw off.

* Hara Taiki is made of rage and kryptonite, and pure energy. Any attempt by Hara to humanize is for empathetic reasons. Use as directed.

I was merely expanding on your thoughts.

Thanks.

In conclusion, 2 people are having a stupid and pointless whine.

Yes. I officially love Hara 

I think a lot of the problems we're having over moderation are, to some extent, simply part of the wider transition TFES is going through. There was a point where this site was seriously undermoderated, and that lead to a shift in the forum culture, and necessarily, the kind of moderation that was needed. Since then we've had a merge with .net, which meant an influx of new moderators, and the official rebirth of the Flat Earth Society. Remember, the merge only happened this summer, and the opening a few weeks ago. This forum has changed more in the last 4-5 months than at any time in its history.


Honestly, I think we have a really solid moderating team right now. Do some of us have different approaches? Yes, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I think the members need to bear in mind that we are not Borg; a good moderating team makes its decisions as a group, not as a unit, and singling out any one moderator is unfair. We all scrutinize each others' decisions, and where there is division, we aim to reach a consensus. It will take a while before we're all thinking on the same wavelength, and even then there will be disagreements.


Lately, I've been more and more conscious of how long I've been at this site. At this stage, well over three-and-a-half years. I think I'm right in saying that I'm the forum's longest standing active member. At the risk of sounding like some sort of Whitman-esque father grey beard, I've seen moderators and moderating teams come and go, and I honestly think the one we have now is the strongest since early 2006. A bunch of now legendary, almost mythic mods like Erasmus and joffenz registered around then, and had just been modded when I joined. A lot of the old mods were largely inactive, but those guys actually posted and contributed, often, and that made all the difference. Sadly, it didn't last.


Now, the entire moderating team is made up of active, long-standing and contributive members, FE'ers and RE'ers alike. This site has been plagued by inactive mods. A forum needs moderators who invest their time in it, and for long periods in the past this place suffered from a severe lack of investment. Hara and Raist come in for a lot of flak, but they have put their time into this place, which is more than can be said for some staff we've had. They deserve more credit than they get, in my opinion.

I'd like to second what Lord Wilmore said.  While we do have disagreements amongst the mods sometimes, everyone generally gets along pretty well.  And I think the moderation is as fair as possible given the fact that we're all humans.. except for Hara, who is a panda bear.  And I agree that the current team is excellent.  In the four-ish years the forums have been running, we've had quite a few mods come and go.  There have been a few duds and a few people who went far beyond the call of duty and singlehandedly kept the place running during extended absences of yours truly (TheEngineer, EnragedPenguin, etc).  But I do think that we've never had a group working as well as the current group of mods/admins.

Hara's behavior earlier today was, quite frankly, probably the worst display of hostility that this forum has ever had from a mod.  In the "Post an image of yourself" thread, after condescendingly insulting several members who had the gall to advise him that posting a video of himself doing donuts in an ambulance probably wasn't a wise move, he started editing and deleting the posts of people who posted an image of him.  Not just re-posting the image, but also people who quoted it to add a comment.  He claimed that he wanted to be the only one to post images of himself, and threatened bans if it didn't stop.

First of all, there's no rule saying that you can't post pictures of other members, as long, of course, as they were posted here by the owner already.  Second of all, unless Hara is planning to enforce this new rule for everyone, then it looks like he's just using his mod powers for his own personal gain.  I can guarantee that if anyone else was to ask Hara to edit all posts by others with a picture of them in it, they wouldn't get an answer other than "Fuck you".  And let's just check to see how much Hara respects the right of others to own their own pictures-

Oh.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, the problem is attitude.  Whether he means to or not, Hara comes across as rude and arrogant.  I don't see why it's necessary for a mod to lower himself to the level of us "trolls" when responding to complaints, criticisms, or other problems.  Every time Hara gets involved in an argument, he's out there slinging mud, name-calling, and being as petty, immature, and spiteful as his opponents.  All the other mods seem to easily keep order without raging, and they've been applauded by the members much more than Hara.  Take this thread for example.  Hara responds with anger and insults, the other mods calmly use logic and reason.

I won't deny that after a while, people posting pictures of him were just doing it to annoy him, but that's no reason for a moderator to flip out and rage all over the site.  Maybe if he had requested politely that people just post pictures of themselves, he might have gotten a better response instead of just editing and deleting everyone's posts.

In addition to this, I would like to add that my initial post of Hara in the thread was not an attempt at making him trying to flip out. I was simply remaking the photo of MooBs joke that Parsifal had played, using the most recent picture in the thread, being the one of Hara. This was not in any way an attempt to annoy him, but rather an attempt at some humour.

In addition to this a couple of days before Hara had posted the video of himself doing donuts in an ambulance. I think we can safely agree that this isn't an ideal thing to be posting on the internet. Upon watching it I was genuinely concerned for Hara's employment, and noted that it isn't ideal to be posting that on the forum. It would only take one of his colleagues a few moments to come on this site and have a lurk to find it. The problem was after expressing these concerns he simply raged on everyone who obviously agreed with my statement, acting like some 12 year old kid trying to be 'independant'. For the several days after this he practically went out of his way to pick fights across the forum with the members involved, including myself in the Post an image of yourself thread twice and my computer build thread. In this thread Hara made obvious insults (this was before me however as I grew increasingly frustrated by his elitism and fanboism) hardly making for a fair debate.

The fact is Hara is not open-minded enough and doesn't have a thick enough skin to be a mod. As demonstrated by Saddam, his mod powers were simply used for personal gain. I know that if someone tried to pull the same joke, using my image I wouldn't do anything about it, and have a joke with the other forummers.

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As you can see there is obviously no rule against reposting or editing the image. As with the video as well, once you post material on the internet you are making it available for everyone else, and shouldn't be surprised and display hostility if it is used in another way. There is also no rule displayed on FES about such material. This 'Hara Rule' was made on the spot, for his own benefit and to continue his apparent vendetta against several of us whom he has had confrontations with in the past. To quote the character involved

Quote from: cmdshft on December 22, 2009, 03:32:09 PM

And yeah, I stirred up a ruckus. Gave you guys something to do.

Quote from: The Site Rules

-Starting problems for the sake of stirring up waves will get you removed.

Give me one reasonable example of late when Hara's modding has been for the benefit of this forum
90% of his recent edits and deletions were simply for the sake of his arguments, and to enforce 'Hara Rules' rather than those of the forum

Look back in this section of the forum, fellow members. Every forum issue across the last 6 months (more, from when I wasn't here) has involved Hara. Make your own conclusions

Frostee, stop being a giant douchebag for no reason.

Firstly, the stirring up comment I made was sarcasm. Sorry you couldn't see that. Text sucks for portraying these elements.

Secondly, I didn't ask for your opinion on the video, as if I didn't already weight out what you said moments before actually doing the deed itself. I do not work for you, I don't talk to you outside this forum (barely on the forum as it is), and would appreciate it if you left the situation alone.

Thirdly, I removed the photo because it was huge and you didn't at least repost with the correct BBcode to resize it. I then decided that I would just prefer you to have no reposted it for no reason other than to basically spam, and asked you to stop. I am a moderator, and you defied the decision I had made. That falls under the rules set forth that you aren't to argue or perpetuate an issue in the thread. In regards to that rule, I made the effort to PM you instead of carrying on in the thread, asking you to stop.

I've already offered to step down. I was convinced otherwise. Plus, the only real issue is that whenever I, in particular, do something above what a normal member is able to do, a bawwfest ensues because that seems to be what you and your colleagues lives consist of on this forum. You have nothing better to do then be assholes and crybabies.

Frankly, everyone is allowed to have a bad day or something, and a right to a little respect. I simply asked you not to repost it, and you kept pushing. Plus, you act like I harassed you in your computer thread. If anyone's picking a fight, it's been you. This recent post in this thread by you just shows that.

I didn't ask for your opinion on the video, as if I didn't already weight out what you said moments before actually doing the deed itself. I do not work for you, I don't talk to you outside this forum (barely on the forum as it is), and would appreciate it if you left the situation alone.

If you didn't want opinions, then why bother posting it on a discussion forum?  If you post a video of yourself doing something unbelievably stupid, then people are naturally going to comment that what you did was unbelievably stupid.

I removed the photo because it was huge and you didn't at least repost with the correct BBcode to resize it.

What?  The relevant post:

-IMAGE REMOVED (PERMISSION WAS NOT REQUESTED FOR REPOSTING)-

Um, whatever.

I then decided that I would just prefer you to have no reposted it for no reason other than to basically spam, and asked you to stop.

Actually, you edited his post without warning, and didn't comment on it until I asked what had happened.  Here's you politely asking Frostee to stop:

I decided I wanted to be the only one to post my photos. Deal with it.

I am a moderator, and you defied the decision I had made. That falls under the rules set forth that you aren't to argue or perpetuate an issue in the thread. In regards to that rule, I made the effort to PM you instead of carrying on in the thread, asking you to stop.

He posted the image of you twice in that thread.  There was that first time, and then he posted an image of you with your eyes blocked.  You indicated that that wasn't acceptable either, so he stopped.  He did make a thread entitled "Post an image of Hara" in CN, but you swooped in and deleted that one.  I don't think anyone thought you'd be so touchy as to demand that no pictures of you be posted even in CN.

Frankly, everyone is allowed to have a bad day or something, and a right to a little respect. I simply asked you not to repost it, and you kept pushing.

I'm sorry if it's been a bad day for you, but as you just said, everyone has them.  That doesn't give you the right to use your mod powers to lash out and be hostile to everyone.  And if you want respect, you have to earn it.  You should know that in this forum, having a mod badge doesn't automatically generate respect.

Plus, the only real issue is that whenever I, in particular, do something above what a normal member is able to do, a bawwfest ensues because that seems to be what you and your colleagues lives consist of on this forum. You have nothing better to do then be assholes and crybabies.

Think about this for a moment.  You aren't the only mod on this board.  You're one out of several.  Now, out of the entire mod team, over the past several months, Raist has received a few complaints, and Jack has received a few complaints, but the majority of criticism aimed at specific mods has been at you.  The rest of the mods have mostly been praised by the community for doing a good job.  So, do you think that there's something that the other mods aren't doing right?  Why doesn't anyone complain about them as much as you?  When you, and you alone, are the one targeted by so much criticism, I would venture that the problem isn't with every single one of your critics, it's with you.

If you didn't want opinions, then why bother posting it on a discussion forum?  If you post a video of yourself doing something unbelievably stupid, then people are naturally going to comment that what you did was unbelievably stupid.

it was a simple video showing something you don't see or get to do often. Big fucking deal. Most normal people go "hah, nice" or something, but being the trolls you all strive to be on the forum, you drag shit on. I was fine with the first comment about it, but over and over and over and over... * sigh *

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I removed the photo because it was huge and you didn't at least repost with the correct BBcode to resize it.

What?  The relevant post:

Quote from: frostee on December 22, 2009, 04:03:22 AM

-IMAGE REMOVED (PERMISSION WAS NOT REQUESTED FOR REPOSTING)-

Um, whatever.

The original image was over 1,000 pixels wide and over 1,000 pixels tall. Since I had already posted it, there wasn't much of a need to post it in it's huge size, and since it was on the same page, I removed the large repost.

Actually, you edited his post without warning, and didn't comment on it until I asked what had happened.

So when did we appoint you to be the official moderation police? I don't see any admin related indications attached to your profile. I must be missing something... Oh wait, I don't have to warn before hand or even mention it to you. However, I did.

He posted the image of you twice in that thread.  There was that first time, and then he posted an image of you with your eyes blocked.  You indicated that that wasn't acceptable either, so he stopped.

I asked before the second photo was posted.

He did make a thread entitled "Post an image of Hara" in CN, but you swooped in and deleted that one.  I don't think anyone thought you'd be so touchy as to demand that no pictures of you be posted even in CN.

I asked the photos not be reposted. That meant entirely. Not an invitation to do it elsewhere (even in CN). That's why I deleted it.

I'm sorry if it's been a bad day for you, but as you just said, everyone has them.  That doesn't give you the right to use your mod powers to lash out and be hostile to everyone.  And if you want respect, you have to earn it.  You should know that in this forum, having a mod badge doesn't automatically generate respect.

I don't just "lash" out. Where or how you're getting this impression is beyond me. Maybe because I don't cater to your trollish behavior (something that I am indirectly thanking James for)? Or maybe because I am more upfront than the others? I give you respect by answering your inquiries, don't I? I don't hand out bans because the idea just pops in and I think it would be a funny joke. I don't shit talk people for the fun of it anymore. However, your idea of respect is you push my buttons, and then cry like a bitch when I deal it back to you in ways you can't control. Suddenly, I'm the mean bully. Suddenly, as usual, it's my fault, right?

Think about this for a moment.  You aren't the only mod on this board.  You're one out of several.  Now, out of the entire mod team, over the past several months, Raist has received a few complaints, and Jack has received a few complaints, but the majority of criticism aimed at specific mods has been at you.  The rest of the mods have mostly been praised by the community for doing a good job.  So, do you think that there's something that the other mods aren't doing right?  Why doesn't anyone complain about them as much as you?  When you, and you alone, are the one targeted by so much criticism, I would venture that the problem isn't with every single one of your critics, it's with you.

They are pointed at me because I'm the only one who responds to you guys when you cry. I'm the only one who tells it like it is. I don't butter it up nicely like Will might. That's the only reason you guys complain, I'm the only one you CAN complain about. You don't like this. Or you don't like that. Tough fucking luck guys. Either deal with having me around or leave the forum. Either way, it's whatever to me.

The reason I complain is because it's not when I am seemingly "over the top" with something, it's EVERYTHING. "HOLY FUCK HARA JUST POSTED LET'S FUCKING BAWWWW OVER AND OVER". It seriously gets old. And yet, have I done anything over the top in retaliation?

No.

QED, You all need to fuck off and leave me the fuck alone for once and stop bitching about every little fucking thing I do. When I ask you to stop doing something, FUCKING STOP DOING IT!

QED, You all need to fuck off and leave me the fuck alone for once and stop bitching about every little fucking thing I do. When I ask you to stop doing something, FUCKING STOP DOING IT!

I don't think I've laughed this hard since Eric Bloedow left.  Please, Hara, make sure you come back when you stop PMSing.  This forum can't survive without you.

Hara's behavior earlier today was, quite frankly, probably the worst display of hostility that this forum has ever had from a mod.  In the "Post an image of yourself" thread, after condescendingly insulting several members who had the gall to advise him that posting a video of himself doing donuts in an ambulance probably wasn't a wise move, he started editing and deleting the posts of people who posted an image of him.  Not just re-posting the image, but also people who quoted it to add a comment.  He claimed that he wanted to be the only one to post images of himself, and threatened bans if it didn't stop.

Whoa whoa whoa there buddy. I missed this post. I never condescendingly insulted anyone in that thread. Please quote EXACTLY WHERE I WAS BEING CONDESCENDING.

You can't.

I also deleted all photos of me, whether it was in my post or not. It went from one photo to another one entirely, AFTER I ASKED IT TO STOP. So as I posted before, where the fuck are you getting your info from? Disregarding a mod request/decision is, as I recall, against the rules and faces a ban. Soooo... What exactly is unjustified?

First of all, there's no rule saying that you can't post pictures of other members, as long, of course, as they were posted here by the owner already.  Second of all, unless Hara is planning to enforce this new rule for everyone, then it looks like he's just using his mod powers for his own personal gain.  I can guarantee that if anyone else was to ask Hara to edit all posts by others with a picture of them in it, they wouldn't get an answer other than "Fuck you".  And let's just check to see how much Hara respects the right of others to own their own pictures-

Quote from: cmdshft on June 14, 2009, 10:53:44 AM

Oh.

I never said there wasn't a rule against it. As stated, there is a rule against ignoring something coming from a moderator in a thread. I am a mod. I requested the reposting stop. It continues. Who's breaking the rules then? Not I, that's for sure.

Second, I did not ever once say I would enforce that "rule" to everyone. Only to myself, for that instance. I did not wanted it reposted, I deleted the photos. In fact, once again, I deleted ALL POSTS WITH PHOTOS OF ME (with the exception of one because it was pretty interesting how it turned out and was rather enjoyable). I am not using it for personal gain, I am using it because I can and it helps in my request. Suck it.

Thirdly, if someone asked me seriously to remove photos for whatever reason, I would not just say "Fuck you". You're wrong for assuming that from me.

And finally, as for that photo, here's two points you forgot to mention; That was before my modship, before the reform. It was also not directed at the person posting the photo who is also in the photo. It's entirely irrelevant and cannot be applied to my simple request that you all decided to roll with after I asked and troll me with it. So who's acting like a douche now? Not I.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, the problem is attitude.  Whether he means to or not, Hara comes across as rude and arrogant.  I don't see why it's necessary for a mod to lower himself to the level of us "trolls" when responding to complaints, criticisms, or other problems.  Every time Hara gets involved in an argument, he's out there slinging mud, name-calling, and being as petty, immature, and spiteful as his opponents.  All the other mods seem to easily keep order without raging, and they've been applauded by the members much more than Hara.  Take this thread for example.  Hara responds with anger and insults, the other mods calmly use logic and reason.

My attitude is my attitude. I will not change it because of some kids on a forum who cry to their mommy's when they get punished. I am blunt. If that seems rude, my only response is too bad. Deal with it. I've not ever once lowered myself to the level of troll when in a discussion with any of you, like I am now. If I make an "out there" remark, it's me being honest. As a mod, I've VERY RARELY actually been the first one in a discussion to sling an ad hominem at someone. If you think I'm wrong, take a closer look at things then and let me know what you find.

Why do I respond with anger? Because of shit posts like what you guys ALWAYS DO when I'm the one not catering to your immaturity. You cannot deny that isn't the truth, you all do it every single time. No one complains about the other mods because some are going inactive and the rest do their thing without catering to your moderator-police squad inquiries. You did it when Vauxhall was pulling his stunts. You did it about Robosteve/Parsifal to protect his spamming antics. I can basically predict when you will pull this crap anymore. It's quite frankly old. Stay out of affairs that aren't affecting you. I removed a picture from a post, requested it not to be reposted, and then you all decided to ignore me and antagonize me. When I put a little muscle into things, suddenly I am the bad guy? No. It isn't going to work like that, sorry.

I won't deny that after a while, people posting pictures of him were just doing it to annoy him, but that's no reason for a moderator to flip out and rage all over the site.  Maybe if he had requested politely that people just post pictures of themselves, he might have gotten a better response instead of just editing and deleting everyone's posts.

Antagonizing me for no reason is enough of a reason for me to remove what's used to antagonize. And in the end, that's what you have a problem with. I used my mod power to stop something, and it ruined your party. As I said, I requested that my picture not be reposted (and it was implied that spamming it would be frowned upon as well), but as you just admitted, you and frostee failed to listen.

Quote from: cmdshft on December 22, 2009, 08:26:02 PM

QED, You all need to fuck off and leave me the fuck alone for once and stop bitching about every little fucking thing I do. When I ask you to stop doing something, FUCKING STOP DOING IT!

I don't think I've laughed this hard since Eric Bloedow left.  Please, Hara, make sure you come back when you stop PMSing.  This forum can't survive without you.

Is that a flame on a moderator? What to do, what to do...

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I don't think I've laughed this hard since Eric Bloedow left.  Please, Hara, make sure you come back when you stop PMSing.  This forum can't survive without you.

Is that a flame on a moderator? What to do, what to do...

How is that a flame?  Are you seriously suggesting that the average person, upon reading that blurb of fury, wouldn't roll over in hysterical laughter?

Quote from: cmdshft on December 22, 2009, 08:45:42 PM

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I don't think I've laughed this hard since Eric Bloedow left.  Please, Hara, make sure you come back when you stop PMSing.  This forum can't survive without you.

Is that a flame on a moderator? What to do, what to do...

How is that a flame?  Are you seriously suggesting that the average person, upon reading that blurb of fury, wouldn't roll over in hysterical laughter?

Let me know in 2 week.

How the heck/why is Saddam banned now 

Is he really banned?  For what?  This is catty bullshit.  Chris, I've known you for a while now and would never expect you to be capable of these crybaby temper tantrums.  You know who you remind me of right now?  Mark.

I'm out.

Is he really banned?  For what?  This is catty bullshit.  Chris, I've known you for a while now and would never expect you to be capable of these crybaby temper tantrums.  You know who you remind me of right now?  I think you do.

Ask me if I care.

I don't. Answered for you.

Also, if any one wants to police the mods, let me know. I'll be sure to ignore you. And if anyone wants to continue being an annoyance and asshat, let me know, I'll walk you out the door.

I'm not standing for anyones criticisms, I do not enjoy making posts having to defend or explain every thing I do in excruciating detail everytime something happens. I'm not going to allow this kind of trolling to continue.

To the staff: Demote me. I know you guys don't want to stick to your guns and take out the trash when needed. I'm the only one who is willing to, and I know you all don't like it.

In fact, if I'm not convinced to stay, I'll actually demote myself come friday evening. Other than that, eveyone will get what they want. I'm sick of the bawwing, the stupid drama. It happens constantly. And mostly for no reason at all. And I will be gone.

Hope you are all peachy.

Great thread

QED, You all need to fuck off and leave me the fuck alone for once and stop bitching about every little fucking thing I do. When I ask you to stop doing something, FUCKING STOP DOING IT!

weirdos