Terminator of the Moon

Quote from: ClockTower on September 25, 2010, 02:42:19 PM

Quote from: James on September 25, 2010, 02:37:16 PM

Well they come out of the sky, which is where the Moon spends most of its time. Doesn't that at least raise our suspicions against the Moon?

Nope. I also don't think that rain comes from the Moon either. Do try harder.

http://www.moonraincentrefortapestryarts.blogspot.com/

Please continue James

What does weaving tapestries have to do with this discussion of the moon? 

No, you see the dead ones, lose their grip and fall to earth as explained here.
http://www.prairieghosts.com/falls_sky.html

There were no sightings of the moon when these things fell. So they can't be from the moon.

ClockTower, as you well know there is plenty of evidence of animals falling to earth in the shrimp thread. The same thread that you turned into a farse, by suggesting that lions lived on the moon.

And please, you were the one who said that the lions were on the moon. It's really rude when you blame others for your wrongdoings.

Please James, answer my question.

Who is right about the shape of the Sun and Moon, you or Tom Bishop because both of you can't be right.  

Please James, answer my question.

Who is right about the shape of the Sun and Moon, you or Tom Bishop because both of you can't be right.  

Wait a minute - in the Flat Earth Theory - what is the shape of the Sun and Moon?

I assumed from reading that they are disks and was about to place a post in the Q&A forum.  Are there other theories on the shape of these two bodies?

Berny

Quote from: Lorddave on September 25, 2010, 03:47:01 PM

Please James, answer my question.

Who is right about the shape of the Sun and Moon, you or Tom Bishop because both of you can't be right.  

Wait a minute - in the Flat Earth Theory - what is the shape of the Sun and Moon?

I assumed from reading that they are disks and was about to place a post in the Q&A forum.  Are there other theories on the shape of these two bodies?

Berny

Yes.
James says they are both disks.
Tom Bishop says they are spheres.  (Well the Sun, I don't know his view on the Moon)

As you can see, both can't be right.

Please James, answer my question.

Who is right about the shape of the Sun and Moon, you or Tom Bishop because both of you can't be right.  

I am right. The Sun and Moon are flat discs.

I know what libration is - don't insult my intelligence - why does pointing it out reduce the validity of my claims in any way, shape or form? My claims, in case you had missed them, and it seems you have, are that the lunar biomass shifts with regularity across the Lunar surface, and that the phenomenon you refer to as libration is caused by the systematic rearrangement of this biomass.

When then you are not arguing that the moon is not a sphere, so please stop posting on this thread, because that is what this thread is about.

Quote from: Lorddave on September 25, 2010, 03:47:01 PM

Please James, answer my question.

Who is right about the shape of the Sun and Moon, you or Tom Bishop because both of you can't be right.  

I am right. The Sun and Moon are flat discs.

If the moon shows the property of libration, it is a sphere. If the moon wobbled and was a flat disc, it would appear to become an ellipse and the FLAT sides would be visible.

Quote from: James on September 25, 2010, 08:35:43 PM

Quote from: Lorddave on September 25, 2010, 03:47:01 PM

Please James, answer my question.

Who is right about the shape of the Sun and Moon, you or Tom Bishop because both of you can't be right.  

I am right. The Sun and Moon are flat discs.

If the moon shows the property of libration, it is a sphere. If the moon wobbled and was a flat disc, it would appear to become an ellipse and the FLAT sides would be visible.

Yes, James is demonstratively wrong, again.

Quote from: Lorddave on September 25, 2010, 03:47:01 PM

Please James, answer my question.

Who is right about the shape of the Sun and Moon, you or Tom Bishop because both of you can't be right.  

I am right. The Sun and Moon are flat discs.

And why should I believe you over him?  What evidence or tests do you have that he doesn't?

What was the point in asking that either-or question when in fact you wouldn't accept either answer?

What was the point in asking that either-or question when in fact you wouldn't accept either answer?

Avoiding my post there James and worrying more about stuff that doesn't have much to do with the thread?

Quote from: James on September 25, 2010, 08:35:43 PM

Quote from: Lorddave on September 25, 2010, 03:47:01 PM

Please James, answer my question.

Who is right about the shape of the Sun and Moon, you or Tom Bishop because both of you can't be right.  

I am right. The Sun and Moon are flat discs.

If the moon shows the property of libration, it is a sphere. If the moon wobbled and was a flat disc, it would appear to become an ellipse and the FLAT sides would be visible.

This mistaken belief of yours is the reason I have explained why libration actually occurs in the first place. Have you been following the thread? Your post so missed the point that if you had not so rudely complained I would have ignored it entirely.

Quote from: deathsink on September 25, 2010, 09:31:39 PM

Quote from: James on September 25, 2010, 08:35:43 PM

Quote from: Lorddave on September 25, 2010, 03:47:01 PM

Please James, answer my question.

Who is right about the shape of the Sun and Moon, you or Tom Bishop because both of you can't be right.  

I am right. The Sun and Moon are flat discs.

So what you are saying is the the moon is a flat disc, somewhat like a beverage coaster, but it still undergoes libration?

If the moon shows the property of libration, it is a sphere. If the moon wobbled and was a flat disc, it would appear to become an ellipse and the FLAT sides would be visible.

This mistaken belief of yours is the reason I have explained why libration actually occurs in the first place. Have you been following the thread? Your post so missed the point that if you had not so rudely complained I would have ignored it entirely.

So what you are saying is the the moon is a flat disc, somewhat like a beverage coaster, but it still undergoes libration?

What was the point in asking that either-or question when in fact you wouldn't accept either answer?

To force you to defend your point with something other than "because I said so".

Quote from: James on September 26, 2010, 11:11:17 AM

Quote from: deathsink on September 25, 2010, 09:31:39 PM

Quote from: James on September 25, 2010, 08:35:43 PM

Quote from: Lorddave on September 25, 2010, 03:47:01 PM

Please James, answer my question.

Who is right about the shape of the Sun and Moon, you or Tom Bishop because both of you can't be right.  

I am right. The Sun and Moon are flat discs.

So what you are saying is the the moon is a flat disc, somewhat like a beverage coaster, but it still undergoes libration?

If the moon shows the property of libration, it is a sphere. If the moon wobbled and was a flat disc, it would appear to become an ellipse and the FLAT sides would be visible.

This mistaken belief of yours is the reason I have explained why libration actually occurs in the first place. Have you been following the thread? Your post so missed the point that if you had not so rudely complained I would have ignored it entirely.

So what you are saying is the the moon is a flat disc, somewhat like a beverage coaster, but it still undergoes libration?

It is something like a 32-mile wide beverage coaster covered in bioluminescent life which migrates across its surface with regularity, causing what you believe to be libration. So no it is not really like a beverage coaster.

It is something like a 32-mile wide beverage coaster covered in bioluminescent life which migrates across its surface with regularity, causing what you believe to be libration. So no it is not really like a beverage coaster.

You continuously evade the question, why we don't see the movement in the moon surface with telescopes and why the surface pattern stays the same.

Quote from: James on September 26, 2010, 12:48:35 PM

It is something like a 32-mile wide beverage coaster covered in bioluminescent life which migrates across its surface with regularity, causing what you believe to be libration. So no it is not really like a beverage coaster.

You continuously evade the question, why we don't see the movement in the moon surface with telescopes and why the surface pattern stays the same.

Because he said so.

Quote from: deathsink on September 26, 2010, 11:14:56 AM

Quote from: James on September 26, 2010, 11:11:17 AM

Quote from: deathsink on September 25, 2010, 09:31:39 PM

Quote from: James on September 25, 2010, 08:35:43 PM

Quote from: Lorddave on September 25, 2010, 03:47:01 PM

Please James, answer my question.

Who is right about the shape of the Sun and Moon, you or Tom Bishop because both of you can't be right.  

I am right. The Sun and Moon are flat discs.

So what you are saying is the the moon is a flat disc, somewhat like a beverage coaster, but it still undergoes libration?

If the moon shows the property of libration, it is a sphere. If the moon wobbled and was a flat disc, it would appear to become an ellipse and the FLAT sides would be visible.

This mistaken belief of yours is the reason I have explained why libration actually occurs in the first place. Have you been following the thread? Your post so missed the point that if you had not so rudely complained I would have ignored it entirely.

So what you are saying is the the moon is a flat disc, somewhat like a beverage coaster, but it still undergoes libration?

It is something like a 32-mile wide beverage coaster covered in bioluminescent life which migrates across its surface with regularity, causing what you believe to be libration. So no it is not really like a beverage coaster.

I am somewhat confused. Is the entirety of the moon some kind of living, glowing creature?
How does its shape vary over time?

I do not see how it could be shaped like a beverage coaster and still exhibit libration

Quote from: James on September 26, 2010, 10:48:36 AM

What was the point in asking that either-or question when in fact you wouldn't accept either answer?

To force you to defend your point with something other than "because I said so".

Good luck with that.

TheJackel, I have warned you before about the perspicuity of your posts; if you err once more I shall ban you from these forums.

Now, to the matter at hand: the Moon is illumined by a vast, heaving swathe of bioluminescent matter which traverses its inferior surface with regularity and unity. The Moon is certainly flat, we can tell this simply by looking at it. In spheres, lit by external sources (as globularists claim the Moon is), we see a darker area around the edges, and a lighter one toward the centre of the sphere, generally in the direction of the light source, as seen in the diagram below:



It so happens that tonight there is a full Moon. At great personal risk, I have been able to sneak a glance at it, taking care not to expose myself to its harmful rays, and, to my complete lack of surprise, it looks much as it always does: distinctly NOT like the sphere in the diagram. What I see, when I part the shutters and peer through a window at the fearful object, is what one might expect of a disc: a largely homogenous spread of tincture, with areas of white and light grey dispersed across its surface without discernable pattern, peering blankly back at me with flat and threatening radiance.

As you can see, I've created my own diagram using a 3D sphere model and attempted to duplicate a similar look between the RET "full moon" position of my model and the full moon with some success.  As you can see, my model does bear significanly more resemblance to the moon than the diagram James Provided, plus the other phases shown of my model are quite similar in light distribution to those of the actual moon.  Currently the the moon is in it's waning crescent phase, approaching first quarter.  At first quarter, it will be highest tomorrow at around suppertime (indeed during the day, for Eastern Ontario, rising between 2 and 3 PM, and setting before midnight).  I have observed the moon extensively today with no ill effects,  and carefully noted how the visible side of the moon exactly faced the Sun.  The light distribution can clearly be seen to match closely the diagram I have provided


Here I provide the exact material settings I used for the sphere, should anyone with experience with Blender 3D wish to duplicate my experiment.  Perhaps someone with more experience may reproduce the actual light distribution of the moon.