Terminator of the Moon

The markings on the Moon shift in tandem with the movements of its biomass. Why is that surprising?

The markings on the Moon shift in tandem with the movements of its biomass. Why is that surprising?

Would you please justify your statement. How can a disc show more marking to its east on some days and then more on its west of other days? How could the alleged biomass cause this shift? Why isn't the libration synchronized with the biomass's growth?

The markings on the Moon shift in tandem with the movements of its biomass. Why is that surprising?

Actually, the entire mass of the moon wobbles over a period of time so in total 59% of the moon can be viewed over a given time. Hence, it is a sphere, because only a sphere exhibits this property. Conclusion: Evidence points to the moon being a sphere, get over it.

Quote from: James on September 24, 2010, 05:49:51 PM

The markings on the Moon shift in tandem with the movements of its biomass. Why is that surprising?

Would you please justify your statement. How can a disc show more marking to its east on some days and then more on its west of other days? How could the alleged biomass cause this shift? Why isn't the libration synchronized with the biomass's growth?

If I paint a white blob on my dog's back, and then get my dog to run around in a disc-shaped cage in my garden, is it not fair to say that the disc's markings are moving to the east and west? What if I do the same with 100 dogs?

Quote from: ClockTower on September 24, 2010, 05:53:13 PM

Quote from: James on September 24, 2010, 05:49:51 PM

The markings on the Moon shift in tandem with the movements of its biomass. Why is that surprising?

Would you please justify your statement. How can a disc show more marking to its east on some days and then more on its west of other days? How could the alleged biomass cause this shift? Why isn't the libration synchronized with the biomass's growth?

If I paint a white blob on my dog's back, and then get my dog to run around in a disc-shaped cage in my garden, is it not fair to say that the disc's markings are moving to the east and west? What if I do the same with 100 dogs?

So are you saying that the Moon is painted on a dog's neck? Your analogy fails for various reasons. Please read about libration before posting again.

Quote from: James on September 24, 2010, 06:14:37 PM

Quote from: ClockTower on September 24, 2010, 05:53:13 PM

Quote from: James on September 24, 2010, 05:49:51 PM

The markings on the Moon shift in tandem with the movements of its biomass. Why is that surprising?

Would you please justify your statement. How can a disc show more marking to its east on some days and then more on its west of other days? How could the alleged biomass cause this shift? Why isn't the libration synchronized with the biomass's growth?

If I paint a white blob on my dog's back, and then get my dog to run around in a disc-shaped cage in my garden, is it not fair to say that the disc's markings are moving to the east and west? What if I do the same with 100 dogs?

So are you saying that the Moon is painted on a dog's neck? Your analogy fails for various reasons. Please read about libration before posting again.

I said my dog's back, not its neck.

Also, what are the "various reasons" for which my illustrative biomass-marking analogy fails, as you so claim? Are you going to explain why, or are we to simply take it on trust from you that I am wrong?

Quote from: ClockTower on September 24, 2010, 06:20:00 PM

Quote from: James on September 24, 2010, 06:14:37 PM

Quote from: ClockTower on September 24, 2010, 05:53:13 PM

Quote from: James on September 24, 2010, 05:49:51 PM

The markings on the Moon shift in tandem with the movements of its biomass. Why is that surprising?

Would you please justify your statement. How can a disc show more marking to its east on some days and then more on its west of other days? How could the alleged biomass cause this shift? Why isn't the libration synchronized with the biomass's growth?

If I paint a white blob on my dog's back, and then get my dog to run around in a disc-shaped cage in my garden, is it not fair to say that the disc's markings are moving to the east and west? What if I do the same with 100 dogs?

So are you saying that the Moon is painted on a dog's neck? Your analogy fails for various reasons. Please read about libration before posting again.

I said my dog's back, not its neck.

You're right. Now about my challenge?

Also, what are the "various reasons" for which my illustrative biomass-marking analogy fails, as you so claim? Are you going to explain why, or are we to simply take it on trust from you that I am wrong?

Did you read about libration yet? Aren't you smart enough to read about libration and understand your own error?

It's sad if not.

You understand that libration means that more of the backside of the RE moon to one side is visible from one side than the other and then the other in a cycle. Your dog's white spot doesn't show more white as it moves. And that's just one problem.

I know what libration is - don't insult my intelligence - why does pointing it out reduce the validity of my claims in any way, shape or form? My claims, in case you had missed them, and it seems you have, are that the lunar biomass shifts with regularity across the Lunar surface, and that the phenomenon you refer to as libration is caused by the systematic rearrangement of this biomass.

Quote from: ClockTower on September 24, 2010, 05:53:13 PM

Quote from: James on September 24, 2010, 05:49:51 PM

The markings on the Moon shift in tandem with the movements of its biomass. Why is that surprising?

Would you please justify your statement. How can a disc show more marking to its east on some days and then more on its west of other days? How could the alleged biomass cause this shift? Why isn't the libration synchronized with the biomass's growth?

If I paint a white blob on my dog's back, and then get my dog to run around in a disc-shaped cage in my garden, is it not fair to say that the disc's markings are moving to the east and west? What if I do the same with 100 dogs?

Wouldn't that produce wave like variations? 
Come to think of it, if you took 1,000 lights all together and move them around individually, that too would produce a noticeable variation in the light.
The only time it wouldn't show variations is if you're looking at it with the naked eye and the intensity is too high.
Kinda like the Sun.  You can easily see the swirls of plasma with a light filter and a telescope.

What you are calling plasma is in fact living matter, and yes, you're right that the Solar life-forms and Lunar life-forms have markedly different behaviours and lifestyles.

What you are calling plasma is in fact living matter, and yes, you're right that the Solar life-forms and Lunar life-forms have markedly different behaviours and lifestyles.

So what happens to the lunar life forms when they get close to the sun during a solar eclipse?

It is thought that the two biomasses may be in some kind of violent struggle during a Solar eclipse; this accounts for the redness of the Moon during that time.

I know what libration is - don't insult my intelligence - why does pointing it out reduce the validity of my claims in any way, shape or form? My claims, in case you had missed them, and it seems you have, are that the lunar biomass shifts with regularity across the Lunar surface, and that the phenomenon you refer to as libration is caused by the systematic rearrangement of this biomass.

I still don't understand how the pictures taken about moon display always the same pattern if there is such systematic rearrangement of this biomass. The moon surface moves according to you but there is no visible trace for that. Why?

What you are calling plasma is in fact living matter, and yes, you're right that the Solar life-forms and Lunar life-forms have markedly different behaviours and lifestyles.

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So let me make sure I understand you correctly.  Your saying the sun has the following properties:

It's a 32 mile diameter sphere.
On the sphere is (millions?) of living organisms that move in a fluid motion very quickly, leap out into the sky (solar flares), and, combined, generate more energy across the entire EM spectrum per second than the entire planet Earth could generate in a year all without any visible food source?

And the Moon:
A sphere of living organisms that generate light, stay perfectly still, have glowing blood, reproduce so fast that it's nearly instantaneous (If they die during solar eclipses they need to be reborn) and in such a way as to be in the exact same arrangement as before, AND have no visible food source?

I know what libration is - don't insult my intelligence - why does pointing it out reduce the validity of my claims in any way, shape or form? My claims, in case you had missed them, and it seems you have, are that the lunar biomass shifts with regularity across the Lunar surface, and that the phenomenon you refer to as libration is caused by the systematic rearrangement of this biomass.

What evidence do you have to support your claim. You do understand that evidence gathering should come before making a conclusion, right? By the way, I'll continue to insult your intelligence every time you make this sophomoric error. Remember it's evidence then conclusion. Oh and your dreams are not evidence.

LordDave, no, the Sun and Moon are flat discs, not spheres.

Clocktower, your criticisms are not even intelligible. You shift listlessly from claiming that the observable phenomenon of libration is somehow at odds with my explanatory model in one post to a vague call for evidence in the next. Your arguments lack structure and coherency to the point of intellectual bankruptcy. Your ramblings would not convince the most die-hard and gullible globularist on this flat world.

Clocktower, your criticisms are not even intelligible. You shift listlessly from claiming that the observable phenomenon of libration is somehow at odds with my explanatory model in one post to a vague call for evidence in the next. Your arguments lack structure and coherency to the point of intellectual bankruptcy. Your ramblings would not convince the most die-hard and gullible globularist on this flat world.

This from a rambling poster that claims white spots on the backs of dogs demonstrate how the unsupported notion of biomass answers the observed libration of the disc called the Moon. Obviously you can't answer the challenge. Let's start with a simple task for you.

Do you have any evidence of life on the Moon? Do you have any evidence about its behavious? Do you have a sample of this biomass? Do you have any observation directly of this biomass? If not, why not?

Yes, a large amount of my research has already been published to the FEB. You can access some of it here: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=31831.0

Yes, a large amount of my research has already been published to the FEB. You can access some of it here: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=31831.0

So, no evidence to answer my questions. How typical. Do you ever provide evidence for your cause? Aren't you ashamed of your record? Let's focus on one challenge since you couldn't answer the last posts.

The one challenge: Do you have any direct observational evidence of the alleged biomass? Please be sure to show how you determined that it is alive.

LordDave, no, the Sun and Moon are flat discs, not spheres.

Tom Bishop says otherwise.  How can I trust you over him?

Quote from: James on September 25, 2010, 12:46:32 PM

Yes, a large amount of my research has already been published to the FEB. You can access some of it here: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=31831.0

So, no evidence to answer my questions. How typical. Do you ever provide evidence for your cause? Aren't you ashamed of your record? Let's focus on one challenge since you couldn't answer the last posts.

The one challenge: Do you have any direct observational evidence of the alleged biomass? Please be sure to show how you determined that it is alive.

John Davis has a variety of information regarding pieces of Moon-animals which have fallen to Earth. However this is not my area of expertise. I advise that you contact him with regard to this matter.

Quote from: ClockTower on September 25, 2010, 12:54:39 PM

Quote from: James on September 25, 2010, 12:46:32 PM

Yes, a large amount of my research has already been published to the FEB. You can access some of it here: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=31831.0

So, no evidence to answer my questions. How typical. Do you ever provide evidence for your cause? Aren't you ashamed of your record? Let's focus on one challenge since you couldn't answer the last posts.

The one challenge: Do you have any direct observational evidence of the alleged biomass? Please be sure to show how you determined that it is alive.

John Davis has a variety of information regarding pieces of Moon-animals which have fallen to Earth. However this is not my area of expertise. I advise that you contact him with regard to this matter.

So you make claims without the evidence in hand. Obviously, you don't have anything to support your claims, again.

Quote from: James on September 25, 2010, 02:16:42 PM

Quote from: ClockTower on September 25, 2010, 12:54:39 PM

Quote from: James on September 25, 2010, 12:46:32 PM

Yes, a large amount of my research has already been published to the FEB. You can access some of it here: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=31831.0

So, no evidence to answer my questions. How typical. Do you ever provide evidence for your cause? Aren't you ashamed of your record? Let's focus on one challenge since you couldn't answer the last posts.

The one challenge: Do you have any direct observational evidence of the alleged biomass? Please be sure to show how you determined that it is alive.

John Davis has a variety of information regarding pieces of Moon-animals which have fallen to Earth. However this is not my area of expertise. I advise that you contact him with regard to this matter.

So you make claims without the evidence in hand. Obviously, you don't have anything to support your claims, again.

ClockTower, as you well know there is plenty of evidence of animals falling to earth in the shrimp thread. The same thread that you turned into a farse, by suggesting that lions lived on the moon.

Quote from: ClockTower on September 25, 2010, 02:21:31 PM

Quote from: James on September 25, 2010, 02:16:42 PM

Quote from: ClockTower on September 25, 2010, 12:54:39 PM

Quote from: James on September 25, 2010, 12:46:32 PM

Yes, a large amount of my research has already been published to the FEB. You can access some of it here: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=31831.0

So, no evidence to answer my questions. How typical. Do you ever provide evidence for your cause? Aren't you ashamed of your record? Let's focus on one challenge since you couldn't answer the last posts.

The one challenge: Do you have any direct observational evidence of the alleged biomass? Please be sure to show how you determined that it is alive.

John Davis has a variety of information regarding pieces of Moon-animals which have fallen to Earth. However this is not my area of expertise. I advise that you contact him with regard to this matter.

So you make claims without the evidence in hand. Obviously, you don't have anything to support your claims, again.

ClockTower, as you well know there is plenty of evidence of animals falling to earth in the shrimp thread. The same thread that you turned into a farse, by suggesting that lions lived on the moon.

Please show where I suggested that lions lived on the Moon.

There is no evidence that in that thread that links the falling items to the Moon. Do try harder.

Quote from: Thork on September 25, 2010, 02:24:12 PM

Quote from: ClockTower on September 25, 2010, 02:21:31 PM

Quote from: James on September 25, 2010, 02:16:42 PM

Quote from: ClockTower on September 25, 2010, 12:54:39 PM

Quote from: James on September 25, 2010, 12:46:32 PM

Yes, a large amount of my research has already been published to the FEB. You can access some of it here: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=31831.0

So, no evidence to answer my questions. How typical. Do you ever provide evidence for your cause? Aren't you ashamed of your record? Let's focus on one challenge since you couldn't answer the last posts.

The one challenge: Do you have any direct observational evidence of the alleged biomass? Please be sure to show how you determined that it is alive.

John Davis has a variety of information regarding pieces of Moon-animals which have fallen to Earth. However this is not my area of expertise. I advise that you contact him with regard to this matter.

So you make claims without the evidence in hand. Obviously, you don't have anything to support your claims, again.

ClockTower, as you well know there is plenty of evidence of animals falling to earth in the shrimp thread. The same thread that you turned into a farse, by suggesting that lions lived on the moon.

Please show where I suggested that lions lived on the Moon.

There is no evidence that in that thread that links the falling items to the Moon. Do try harder.

There should be like... trillions of dead bodies of those creatures given that the moon has been shining since the beginning of the times...

No, you see the dead ones, lose their grip and fall to earth as explained here.
http://www.prairieghosts.com/falls_sky.html

They definitely exist as explained here.
http://www.raleys.com/www/apps/recipes/recipe.jsp?recipeid=1080613
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2337453120102585871NbhpYa
http://www.chihsinyang.com/project3/Seafood1-2.html

Filipino shrimp collectors, need then only follow the moon around the earth, to collect the dead shrimp for their recipes. Its a multi-million dollar industry.

So maybe now you will allow James to continue?

Well they come out of the sky, which is where the Moon spends most of its time. Doesn't that at least raise our suspicions against the Moon?

Well they come out of the sky, which is where the Moon spends most of its time. Doesn't that at least raise our suspicions against the Moon?

Nope. I also don't think that rain comes from the Moon either. Do try harder.

Quote from: James on September 25, 2010, 02:37:16 PM

Well they come out of the sky, which is where the Moon spends most of its time. Doesn't that at least raise our suspicions against the Moon?

Nope. I also don't think that rain comes from the Moon either. Do try harder.

http://www.moonraincentrefortapestryarts.blogspot.com/

Please continue James