Proove the NASA photos are fake

Well since they are from JPL i would wager yes, but I dont know

well look at the sites and tell me. how have they enforced this Conspiracy? and why invent this particular part of the Conspiracy - planetary science?
even down to making university courses in planetary science, such as the one I am doing?

Well, they have enforced this conspiracy by keeping everyone involved on their side, and planetary science has been around since the begining of time  when a caveman looked up and said something like, OOOH PRETTY.  So there has to be the same things as any other science, books, courses, etc.

Well, they have enforced this conspiracy by keeping everyone involved on their side, and planetary science has been around since the begining of time  when a caveman looked up and said something like, OOOH PRETTY.  So there has to be the same things as any other science, books, courses, etc.

yes there are. funny how these courses involve the study and practical application of deep time, heliocentric star systems, and spheroidal planets.
and they are sponsored and allowed by humanity's highest establishments of learning - universities.

I agree, it is quite funny, practical applications of things that are as much unprovable as they are futile to think about

I agree, it is quite funny, practical applications of things that are as much unprovable as they are futile to think about

why are they unprovable? we are being taught the mechanisms for reaching other planets, the maths behind trajectories between two planets orbiting a star. and that is the way that space probes and sattellites are launched. why is that futile to think about?

what they would say now is that you are an fact part of the conspiracy and you are lying as well...its quite simple. Everything and everyone that could proove anything is part of the conspiracy!

Quite similar as a possible "conversation" in the 13th century:

"There is no such thing as Satan or whitches......"

"Ahh, he's possessed by the devil....burn him!"

And today.....

"The earth is round, not flat!"

"Ahh, he's part of the conspiracy...he's lying, don't listen to him...!"

Having spent a lot of time in this page I have decided to use my time for something better that trying to convince people who don't want to, or can't be convinced.

You think the earth is flat...that's not my problem. Go on believing what ever you want. Go on reading the bible and believing whatever it says, do it. I don't care. Obviously there always have to be people like this, cause otherwise the rest could not define themselves as "normal", "sensible" or what ever you may call it.

A great relief to me is, that the flat earth believers will never ever have any effect on global politics or education or anything important. Because, and here is the thing i believe in: I believe that the majority of the human population is smart enough to, if they ever come across this forum or any other information concerning the flat earth movement, read a bit...then smile....maybe shake their heads and turn away to do something else. But this is all the reaction the FE theory ever evokes in most of the people who read about it.

It's just a bit sad for all the smart people who spook around here.....

Here's my last comment on the FE:
"It's bullshit. I don't like the smell of it."

i know what you mean.
it just scares me that the stuff i do every day, in both the planetary science and the evo-devo fields, is simply deemed non-existant and evil by some people. all it is is science.

it is unprovable because not everyone believes in deep space, and that kinda  stuff is pretty easy to make up with the right motivation.  In this site, there is contention on what those "probes and sattellites" do after they are launched, most think they just fly off into nowhere and eventually land back on earth at some point.  Everything found during their "flight throught the cosmos" is all fabricated.

It is futile to think about because knowing it is all a conspiracy, nothing being said is important, I find that a little futile to think about if it is not true

there is contention on what those "probes and sattellites" do after they are launched, most think they just fly off into nowhere and eventually land back on earth at some point.  Everything found during their "flight throught the cosmos" is all fabricated.
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you really need to educate yourself. no joke.

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there is contention on what those "probes and sattellites" do after they are launched, most think they just fly off into nowhere and eventually land back on earth at some point.  Everything found during their "flight throught the cosmos" is all fabricated.
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you really need to educate yourself. no joke.

u need to think freely, uncontroled by what sociaty tells u.

"sociaty"?
you need to educate yourself too.

"society" doesnt tell me anything about planetary science. i learn it from the people who do it - who plan missions, build probes, maintain them during flight and do the science on arrival.

ops sorry its a miss type

you know when u press one button instead of the other because your typing without looking at the keys...
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Noone has yet prooved the NASA photos are fake.

  I disagree with that completely, but your opinion is your opinion.  The link I posted indicates that the "moon landings" aired on television in 1969 were a skit performed in a film studio in Goldstone, California:
http://www.aulis.com/nasa7.htm

  If you really want more information, then see 'The Space Hoax' post in the Flat Earth User Group category.

-Dionysios

so what about all the information gained from going to the moon? both manned and unmanned? the half a tonne of returned rocks? as well as the few kilos of soil returned by soviet probes? it contains minerals that do not exist on earth.

I dont think you are understanding, If it came from the conspiracy, youre not going to change anyones opinion say, oh but look what they did!

Conspiracys tend to cover themselves well, and part of that is being above suspicion

so am i wasting my time doing a planetary science course?


Armalcolite does not exist, then. that is what you are saying.

so am i wasting my time doing a planetary science course?

I'm pretty FEers and real scientists agree that if you take a course and simply accept everything you are told at face value, you are not training yourself to be the sort of thinker that the academic world needs.

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so am i wasting my time doing a planetary science course?

I'm pretty FEers and real scientists agree that if you take a course and simply accept everything you are told at face value, you are not training yourself to be the sort of thinker that the academic world needs.

well, of course. thats why we do small amounts of work for ESA analysing the Huygens probe data. we don't just sit back and absorb. we participate.

simply accept everything you are told at face value, you are not training yourself to be the sort of thinker that the academic world needs.

are you a biblical literalist? if so this would be pretty ironic

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Show me proof that the NASA photos are fake.

The only proof they have that the NASA photos are fake is this arguement: "The earth is flat, therefore, photos that would depict anything other than this (such as the ones NASA has provided from the Apollo missions) are fakes and mockeries of our sacred and blind belief in the earth's flatness." I wouldn't be surprised if this is the only response you get either.

That isn't proof!! It's a mere theory....and a really ridiculous one. Come on, do you have to drop logic to believe in this shit?

are you a biblical literalist? if so this would be pretty ironic

I sort of feel like you just asked me if I was totally unfamiliar with the English language, because if so it would be sort of strange that I was communicating in it.

Have I given you any reason to believe that I am a biblical literalist?

Speaking of Bible literalist, I miss Dionysios

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are you a biblical literalist? if so this would be pretty ironic

I sort of feel like you just asked me if I was totally unfamiliar with the English language, because if so it would be sort of strange that I was communicating in it.

Have I given you any reason to believe that I am a biblical literalist?

no not directly. but that seems to be some peoples prime justification for a flat earth.

I don't remember anyone stating that the sole reason they believed in the FE is because it's in the bible.

Prove they're not.

And stop with this idiotic "If nobody responds then I win woohoo" crap.  It's infantile.

we donot need to prove to you that the RE photos are not fake.you can tell they arent.which is why you lock every post that has a genuine pic of a RE on it.the FE model of earth looks like a piece of dog shit,by the way.why cant we say we won if you dont respond with real proof?its logically sound.if you asked me what 7-3 is and i dont say a thing,you would believe that i really do not know the answer to a pre-kindergarden math problem.once again.another classic example of why i still have doubts that this site is even serious and why i belive you make jokes about this site every time you log off.youre simply answering a demand with another one.you will convert no one with this method.

Well, I 'spect we can close this thread once you view this footage:

http://www.gaiaguys.net/moontruth.mpg

I rest my case.

Our belief goes against the majority, but your believe goes against the apparent truth. The Earth looks flat - if you want to show that it's not, it's up to you to prove something which is not obviously true.

The Earth looks flat. But a Hologram looks 3D. a bit of a rash decision?