how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?

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how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« on: September 25, 2009, 02:52:33 PM »
How is the magnetic field of the earth created and how does it fluctuate in FET.
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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2009, 02:56:03 PM »
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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2009, 03:12:47 PM »
19 views and no responses?

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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2009, 04:59:18 PM »
How is the magnetic field of the earth created and how does it fluctuate in FET.


You know how the map of FE was created? That's right, by warping the RE map (I'm not talking about levee's quality work here)

So take the magnetic field lines of a RE and twist them out onto a flat earth.

Fluctuate as required.

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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2009, 05:05:14 PM »
that does not make sense.

magnetic field is based on the idea
of two rotation cores.
this creates an ellipsoid magnetic field.
the field portrayed in FET, has the north
side inside, and the south side circumscribing it.
how can you create such a field from the interior,
where the north field lines are parallel to the south
with rotating cores?

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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2009, 05:20:36 PM »
that does not make sense.

magnetic field is based on the idea
of two rotation cores.
this creates an ellipsoid magnetic field.
the field portrayed in FET, has the north
side inside, and the south side circumscribing it.
how can you create such a field from the interior,
where the north field lines are parallel to the south
with rotating cores?

It doesn't matter.

The FE answer probably doesn't involve rotating cores. Whatever it involves, it'll just be the RE version flattened out.

You can't take complicated ideas in RE and transfer them to FE. It's like trying to put a Ferrari engine into a Mini.

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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2009, 06:05:46 PM »
and a flattened out rotating core is rotating disks,
which would create a flattened out magnetic field in the shape of a disk,

what FET tells of, is he field in the shape of horseshoe magnet rotated about one pole.
now how does anything inside flat earth make this?
and how is it able to reverse poles, and wander?

or are we supposed to start believing in macroscopic monopoles

come on, this has to be the easiest theory to debunk in the history of forever.

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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2009, 09:56:03 PM »
The north magnetic pole is directly below the south magnetic pole.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2009, 12:44:20 AM »
The north magnetic pole is directly below the south magnetic pole.

The definition of the magnetic poles are the points (or, as may be necessary for FET to work, loci) on the surface of the Earth where the magnetic field lines are vertical. If they point vertically up, it is a magnetic north pole, and if they point vertically down, it is a magnetic south pole. For this reason, the magnetic north pole cannot be directly below the magnetic south pole.
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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2009, 07:39:14 AM »
voice, there is no explanation whatsoever for the existence of a magnetic field in the round earth theory; those liquid layers of iron and nickel could not have attained a spherical shape in the first place at all, and even in that case, they could not produce the magnetic field of a round earth.

What is more, the presence of iron in the shell or the migration of heavy metals from the core to the shell has not been sufficiently explained. For these metals to have left the core, they must have been ejected by explosions, and in order to remain spread through the crust, the explosions must have been followed immediately by cooling.

If, in the beginning, the planet was a hot conglomerate of elements, as the nebular as well as the tidal theories assume, then the iron of the globe should have become oxidized and combined with all available oxygen. But for some unknown reasons this did not happen; thus the presence of oxygen in the terrestrial atmosphere is unexplained.

An that iron core is just a myth, please read:

For some inexplicable reason, many cosmologists believe that a solid Iron core is necessary to explain stellar and planetary magnetism.

What is so special about a solid Iron core? Iron only forms a magnet at low temperatures. Steel is more resilient holding residual magnetism at moderately high temperatures, but looses all directed magnetic qualities with heating, impact and chemical activity. Once steel is magnetised, it normally takes a great deal of energy from an external source to reverse the magnetic direction, yet the Earth's magnetic field flips automatically without energy being applied from any external object. This flip occurs within a short geological time frame. The magnetic field generator of the Earth, the Sun, and the Galaxy must work at temperatures exceeding 10,000?C, perhaps in excess of 1,000,000?C in the Sun. Steel is magnetic only to temperatures of about 500?C. Geologist contradict the solid Iron core belief claiming that the Earth has a "liquid Iron core" citing unscientific beliefs about the properties of S-waves because these waves do not travel through the core. Oddly, geological evidence proves the core's density is far too low and the speed of sound far too slow for Iron , Iron minerals and liquid Iron, but then in total contradiction, the geologists claim the core as being the magnetic field generator, when they have not determined a suitable mechanism to power the magnetic field or to explain magnetic reversals. As the speed of sound and the density of the core are lower than the crust and half that of Iron compounds, one must be very dubious of both composition claims for the core. This belief in "Iron" is a scientific artifact that should have been dropped many years ago.

http://www.geocities.com/longhairedbastard/chv7_11.htm

To fully understand the nature of magnetism, we must go back about 150 years to the year 1861:

Most amazingly, J.C. Maxwell described the aether in his 1861 paper, On Physical Lines of Force:

# Each hexagon is a portion of ether.

1. Rotation of vortices = magnetic field
2. Idler Wheels prevent the ether vortices from cancelling each other out.
3. Translation of idler wheels = electric current
4. Vibration of ether = light

# So electric current (translation of idler wheels) produces a magnetic field and magnetic fields produce spinning of idler wheels (which can be seen as electric current if a wire is placed so that the wheels can translate).

To see the figure drawn by J. Maxwell himself:

http://www-teach.phy.cam.ac.uk/dms/dms_getFile.php?node=4085 (page 27)

Double Helix theory of the Magnetic Field:

http://www.wbabin.net/science/tombe.pdf

http://www.wbabin.net/science/tombe4.pdf

Secret World of Magnets:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/34317/Spintronics-The-Secret-World-of-Magnets-2006-by-Howard-Johnson

Here is the aclaimed On Physical Lines of Force by J. Maxwell, in which he presents the AETHER theory of magnetism:

http://vacuum-physics.com/Maxwell/maxwell_oplf.pdf


How J.P. Morgan hired H. Lorentz and O. Heaviside to eliminate and hide the terms of the original equations of Maxwell which were related to aether vortex theory:

http://www.svpforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=696&sid=df49b40b0918509a3a67b10075bf83fc


H. Hertz was part of the conspiracy too; here is Nikola Tesla's account:

Maxwell?s second wave postulation was that of a transverse electromagnetic wave that exhibited a rapid alternation of electric fields along a fixed axis that radiated away from its point of origin at the speed of light and was detectable at great distances. Maxwell had more faith in the existence of this type of wave and encouraged experimenters to look in this direction. It was the discovery of this type of wave that Hertz had laid claim to, but Tesla was meticulous and fastidious in replicating Hertz?s experimental parameters and he could not obtain the results claimed by Hertz.

Tesla discovered a fundamental flaw in Hertz?s experiment: Hertz had failed to take into account he presence of air in his experiments. Hertz had mistakenly identified electrostatic inductions or electrified shockwaves as true electromagnetic waves. Tesla was saddened to bring this news to the distinguished academician, but felt scientific honesty was paramount if progress was to be achieved. Tesla visited Hertz in Germany and personally demonstrated the experimental error to him. Hertz agreed with Tesla and had planned to withdraw his claim, but reputations, political agendas, national pride, and above all, powerful financial interests, intervened in that decision and set the stage for a major rift in the ?accepted? theories that soon became transformed into the fundamental ?laws? of the electric sciences that have held sway in industry and the halls of academia to the present day.

In the late 1880's, Dr. Nikola Tesla accidently discovered an electrostatic "super-charging" effect while trying to verify Hertz' discovery of electromagnetic waves. After hundreds of experiments, he learned how to control and maximize this phenomenon. This led him to the discovery that electricity is made up of different components that can be separated from each other, and that a pure, gaseous, etheric energy can be fractionated away from the flow of electrons in a circuit designed to produce short duration, unidirectional impulses. When all of the conditions were right, this Longitudinal Impulse energy would manifest itself as a spatially distributed voltage that would radiate away from the electrical circuit as a "light-like ray" that could charge other surfaces within the field. Tesla found that this effect was greatly magnified when these impulse currents were produced by the discharge of a capacitor. This huge explosion of electrostatic energy, that radiates away at right angles from the capacitor discharge pathway, is the primary operating principle of his Magnifying Transmitter. With amazing device, Tesla planned to broadcast energy to the whole world from his facility at Wardenclyffe, New York.


Hertz used the damped oscillating currents in a dipole antenna, triggered by a high-voltage electrical capacitive spark discharge, as his source of radio waves. His detector in some experiments was another dipole antenna connected to a narrow spark gap. A small spark in this gap signified detection of the radio wave. When he added cylindrical reflectors behind his dipole antennas, Hertz could detect radio waves about 20 metres from the transmitter in his laboratory. He did not try to transmit further because he wanted to prove electromagnetic theory, not to develop wireless communications.

Hertz was uninterested in the practical importance of his experiments. He stated that "It's of no use whatsoever ... this is just an experiment that proves Maestro Maxwell was right - we just have these mysterious electromagnetic waves that we cannot see with the naked eye. But they are there."[3] Asked about the ramifications of his discoveries, Hertz replied, "Nothing, I guess." Hertz also stated, "I do not think that the wireless waves I have discovered will have any practical application." The art of radio was left to other to implement into a practical useful form. His discoveries would later be taken up by entrepreneurs looking to make their fortunes. Marconi's 1895 experiments followed Hertz's work (among others) by using a spark source in what became known as a spark-gap transmitter.

Tom Bearden on radio waves:

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.viewcustom&friendId=41104479&blogId=182419640&swapped=true

How H. Lorentz eliminated the terms of the Maxwell equations, which were not wanted by J.P. Morgan:

http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=205

Tom Bearden on the modified Maxwell equations:

" ... In discarding the scalar component of the quaternion, Heaviside and Gibbs unwittingly discarded the unified EM/G [electromagnetic/ gravitational] portion of Maxwell's theory that arises when the translation/directional components of two interacting quaternions reduce to zero, but the scalar resultant remains and infolds a deterministic, dynamic structure that is a function of oppositive directional/translational components. In the infolding of EM energy inside a scalar potential, a structured scalar potential results, almost precisely as later shown by Whittaker but unnoticed by the scientific community. The simple vector equations produced by Heaviside and Gibbs captured only that subset of Maxwell's theory where EM and gravitation are mutually exclusive. In that subset, electromagnetic circuits and equipment will not ever, and cannot ever, produce gravitational or inertial effects in materials and equipment.

"Brutally, not a single one of those Heaviside/ Gibbs equations ever appeared in a paper or book by James Clerk Maxwell, even though the severely restricted Heaviside/Gibbs interpretation is universally and erroneously taught in all Western universities as Maxwell's theory.

http://www.enterprisemission.com/hyper2.html


The source of the Earth's magnetic field are the two heavenly bodies which cause the solar/lunar eclipses; the Black Sun and Tiamat, this is well described in ancient documents, which name Tiamat the cold division of the Central Magnet.

This magnetic field HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE MOST PUZZLING SCIENTIFIC FACT OF THE LAST 100 YEARS:

Francis Crick, codiscoverer of the DNA structure, describes this strange characteristic of the molecules of living organisms:

It has been well known for many years that for any particular molecule only one hand occurs in nature. For example the amino acids one finds in proteins are always what are called the L or levo amino acids, and never the D or dextro amino acids. Only one of the two mirror possibilities occurs in proteins.

Living tissue (with the exception of some bacteria) contains only L-amino acids (laevorotatory-left handed); dead tissue only D-amino acids (dextrorotatory-right handed).


Linus Pauling, Nobel laureate in chemistry:

This is a very puzzling fact . . . . All the proteins that have been investigated, obtained from animals and from plants, from higher organisms and from very simple organisms - bacteria, molds, even viruses - are found to have been made of L-amino acids.

http://creationsafaris.com/epoi_c03.htm



Tesla on radio waves:

What, then, about power transmission by radio? Mr. Tesla agreed to discuss the point at length. As a result, he made public for the first time one of the most extraordinary conclusions - that Hertz waves do not exist!

"I had maintained for many years before that such a medium as supposed could not exist, and that we must rather accept the view that all space is filled with a gaseous substance. On repeating the Hertz experiments with much improved and very powerful apparatus, I satisfied myself that what he had observed was nothing else but effects of longitudinal waves in a gaseous medium, that is to say, waves, propagated by alternate compression and expansion. He had observed waves in the ether much of the nature of sound waves in the air.

Some of Telsa's unusual conceptualization of the ether had been nonetheless expounded piecemeal, in his preceding 1890's lectures. He later railed against the limited and erroneous theories of Maxwell, Hertz, Lorentz, and Einstein.

Tesla's ether was neither the "solid" ether with the "tenuity of steel" of Maxwell and Hertz, nor the half-hearted, entrained, gaseous ether of Lorentz. Tesla's ether consisted of "carriers immersed in an insulating fluid", which filled all space. Its properties varied according to relative movement, the presence of mass, and the electric and magnetic environment.

For the true model of the atom:

http://theflatearthsociety.net/talk/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1183#p34667
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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2009, 07:51:21 AM »
I'll take your word for it :/
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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2009, 11:17:16 AM »
I'll take your word for it :/

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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2009, 01:52:33 PM »
The north magnetic pole is directly below the south magnetic pole.

The definition of the magnetic poles are the points (or, as may be necessary for FET to work, loci) on the surface of the Earth where the magnetic field lines are vertical. If they point vertically up, it is a magnetic north pole, and if they point vertically down, it is a magnetic south pole. For this reason, the magnetic north pole cannot be directly below the magnetic south pole.

and how does a pole have not a point, but a circle.
the big problem with FET, is that it requires a Universe of theories and phenomena that gone unnoticed by like 50 billi people. I guess their all just stupid

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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2009, 01:54:08 PM »
and how does a pole have not a point, but a circle.

Because that is what it would need to be defined as in FET.

the big problem with FET, is that it requires a Universe of theories and phenomena that gone unnoticed by like 50 billi people. I guess their all just stupid

50 billion people? You might want to rethink that comment.
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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2009, 05:38:37 PM »
the big problem with FET, is that it requires a Universe of theories and phenomena that gone unnoticed by like 50 billi people. I guess their all just stupid

50 billion people? You might want to rethink that comment.

Well, 6 billion is the number of people alive TODAY, so I'd guess he's trying to express the number of people who lived and died since a particular point in time. If he means all humans in all of human history, though, his number falls a bit short.
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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2009, 05:45:50 PM »
Well, 6 billion is the number of people alive TODAY, so I'd guess he's trying to express the number of people who lived and died since a particular point in time. If he means all humans in all of human history, though, his number falls a bit short.

In order for his number to be accurate in that case, he'd have to be going back to about 3000 B.C. I don't think the Conspiracy has been around that long, given that it requires efficient long-distance communication to work properly, and given that the motive is based on capitalism which is not that old.
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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2009, 05:21:23 PM »
If the earth only has one magnetic pole or something idiotic like that can someone please explain how it protects us from solar wind?

Ohhh solar winds dont exist now?





Seriously guys.. the joke is getting old.
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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2009, 05:32:52 PM »
What else causes aurora borealis if its not solar wind?






There is a picture of them, I have seen the aurora borealis with my own eyes in Canada, and the earth in that picture looks pretty round to me.

The circle in the lower midleft of the above is in quebec:



A picture taken with a SATALITE!
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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2009, 11:12:07 AM »
I'll take your word for it :/

Defeated by the wall of text too?

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« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2009, 11:20:41 AM »
Defeated by the wall of text too?

He makes this place a blast!
Keep this out of the upper fora.  This is a warning.

I'm confused. Levee posts a wall of text, copypasta that he's spammed many times before, and everyone is supposed to lap it up like tasty soup?

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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2009, 11:26:59 AM »
Defeated by the wall of text too?

He makes this place a blast!
Keep this out of the upper fora.  This is a warning.

I'm confused. Levee posts a wall of text, copypasta that he's spammed many times before, and everyone is supposed to lap it up like tasty soup?
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« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2009, 11:28:04 AM »
Done and done.

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Re: how do magnetic fields and the reversal there of work?
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2009, 07:37:10 PM »

the big problem with FET, is that it requires a Universe of theories and phenomena that gone unnoticed by like 50 billi people. I guess their all just stupid

50 billion people? You might want to rethink that comment.

I was engaging in hyperbole