$150 proof the earth isn't flat.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/09/the-150-space-camera-mit-students-beat-nasa-on-beer-money-budget/

http://space.1337arts.com/

A group of college kids put together a weather balloon, canon camera (with CHDK to increase the options given) and GPS (or however FEers want it to work) and released it, having it take a picture every 5 minutes. With an 8GB SD chips, it took pictures for the whole 5 hour flight, ascention and descention. Now, if the FEers can't put together $150 to do this, they don't to do experiments and find out if the earth is flat or not.

I'd do it myself, but being a REer and all, they wouldn't accept that.

Fantastic photography of the rounded view created by curved light.

So, watching the video, the sun being a circle 20 miles up means it's OBVIOUSLY a disc, right? Or is ALL THE LIGHT being "bent" up to 20 miles, in which case the earth isn't lit at all.

Oh wait, same picture, and it is.

Weird.

2:47 seconds in the video, and you can see the sun shining, full circle, on the camera. just before and after that, you can ALSO see that part of the earth is lit.

curved light.

Just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it?

So, watching the video, the sun being a circle 20 miles up means it's OBVIOUSLY a disc, right? Or is ALL THE LIGHT being "bent" up to 20 miles, in which case the earth isn't lit at all.

Oh wait, same picture, and it is.

Weird.

I think it's a bit silly for the Sun to be a disc. It's far more likely to be a sphere.

So as a sphere, wouldn't it light a lot more of the earth at once if it were flat?

I mean, take a diffused LED (since the sun gives light off in all directions) and with it lit, hold it over a piece a paper. The whole piece of paper is visible, weird!

So as a sphere, wouldn't it light a lot more of the earth at once if it were flat?

I mean, take a diffused LED (since the sun gives light off in all directions) and with it lit, hold it over a piece a paper. The whole piece of paper is visible, weird!

You're not accounting for the curvature of sunlight away from the Earth. Only that part of the Earth which is fairly close to the Sun gets illuminated; light gets bent back on itself before it reaches the rest.

And that doesn't explain timezones. So you'd have a circular part of the earth lit, right? And a circular part of a RE would be a hemi sphere, and a circular part of the FE would have to make up for that. But it couldn't really do that, could it?

I mean, i don't care how complex you make the FE map, two circles != 1 larger circle. So you'll have places with no daylight all the time or all daylight all the time.

And that doesn't explain timezones. So you'd have a circular part of the earth lit, right? And a circular part of a RE would be a hemi sphere, and a circular part of the FE would have to make up for that. But it couldn't really do that, could it?

I mean, i don't care how complex you make the FE map, two circles != 1 larger circle. So you'll have places with no daylight all the time or all daylight all the time.

And that is where the sky mirror comes in.

So there's a magic sky mirror, too?

And this is supposed to be the simpler answer?

Also, I'm sure you've read this, but it's great that's there no answer.

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=21880.0

So there's a magic sky mirror, too?

And this is supposed to be the simpler answer?

It's not magic. It orbits above the stars and obeys the known laws of physics. It also reflects sunlight back to Earth in a way that matches observations. This explains 24-hour daylight during antarctic summers.

Also, I'm sure you've read this, but it's great that's there no answer.

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=21880.0

I haven't read it before, no. And three in the morning is probably not the best time to be thinking up a rebuttal. I'll come back to it tomorrow.

Really, it's a year old, and well thought out.

Have fun.

Also, sky mirrors means that the sun points away from the earth and isn't a sphere.

Also, sky mirrors means that the sun points away from the earth and isn't a sphere.

No, it doesn't. The sky mirror just reflects sunlight such that no point on the surface of the Earth has yet been observed while being illuminated directly by the Sun and via the sky mirror simultaneously.

So you're saying that the sky does NOT look like how it should if the earth is flat? And that therefore it is still flat, but instead there is this magic mirror in the sky.

That's pretty much what he said.

I'd like to figure out a way to get a camera/videocamera to float long enough to show the earth's rotation, but I'm not sure how reasonable that'd be.

Maybe one day it'd be possible.

Fantastic photography of the rounded view created by curved light.

If you happen to be wrong about a flat earth, and you were taken into space and saw the earth as a sphere, what excuse would you use then?

Not only as a sphere, but rotating!

Quote from: Parsifal on September 21, 2009, 09:19:47 AM

Fantastic photography of the rounded view created by curved light.

If you happen to be wrong about a flat earth, and you were taken into space and saw the earth as a sphere, what excuse would you use then?

Curved glass in the windows of the space-ship.

Quote from: Ambrosiah on September 21, 2009, 11:58:12 AM

Quote from: Parsifal on September 21, 2009, 09:19:47 AM

Fantastic photography of the rounded view created by curved light.

If you happen to be wrong about a flat earth, and you were taken into space and saw the earth as a sphere, what excuse would you use then?

Curved glass in the windows of the space-ship.

I lol'd.