Low Gravity

How is this possible if there is no such thing as gravity?


Does acceleration stop in some places? How do you make a person float around in the air like that? (btw don't troll and say somthing stupid like helium or strings and whatnot.

That phenomenon actually has nothing to do with gravity and everything to do with acceleration.

Elaborate.

That phenomenon actually has nothing to do with gravity and everything to do with acceleration.

Really because I recall you said you don't even believe the Earth was flat, thus no acceleration.

But that's why you're a troll, isn't it?

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on September 14, 2009, 04:55:30 PM

That phenomenon actually has nothing to do with gravity and everything to do with acceleration.

Really because I recall you said you don't even believe the Earth was flat, thus no acceleration.

But that's why you're a troll, isn't it?

That statement has nothing to do with the shape of the Earth.

Roundy, I don't know what you believe but just so you know I asked you to explain your response. JUST saying

That phenomenon actually has nothing to do with gravity and everything to do with acceleration.

Truthie actually has a point. This footage was taken aboard the "vomit comet", a jet that dives very fast to try and counter the effects of gravity and create brief periods of weightlessness. This jaunt would operate in the same way on a flat earth as a round one.

However, once you go a little higher and a little faster, you experience a very similar effect called continuous free-fall; Flat Earth theory cannot account for this.

I'm not sure how this is actually done but I would imagine the technology works to speed up the rate at which the couple is accelerating so that they are going up just slightly faster than the earth is, allowing for the illusion of floating around.

How is this possible if there is no such thing as gravity?


Does acceleration stop in some places? How do you make a person float around in the air like that? (btw don't troll and say somthing stupid like helium or strings and whatnot.

Weightlessness ~= free acceleration.

Stuff like this is fairly explainable under FET. In fact they make good use of this phenomenon.

Wouldn't the upward force of the people floating around have to be equal or greater than the accelerating force below? Do you have any formula for the acceleration anyways?

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on September 14, 2009, 04:55:30 PM

That phenomenon actually has nothing to do with gravity and everything to do with acceleration.

Truthie actually has a point. This footage was taken aboard the "vomit comet", a jet that dives very fast to try and counter the effects of gravity and create brief periods of weightlessness. This jaunt would operate in the same way on a flat earth as a round one.

However, once you go a little higher and a little faster, you experience a very similar effect called continuous free-fall; Flat Earth theory cannot account for this.

Also see bold.

Wouldn't the upward force of the people floating around have to be equal or greater than the accelerating force below?

No.

The FE is accelerating at 9.8m/s2

Whatever force is applied to the FE to cause this acceleration isn't applied to you, on its surface.

You therefore "feel" this force pulling you down, or the result of you being pushed up, however you want to feel it.

Out in space, you're just floating about, waiting for the earth to catch up with you. Which it does.

Wow. That's... interesting. I've never heard of such a thing before, but anyways I have another question.

So if something is "falling", than what about the time period between let's say when I'm holding a pencil and than the pencil hitting the desk? Between those two, is the pencil actually just floating there waiting for the table to go up to it?

Wow. That's... interesting. I've never heard of such a thing before, but anyways I have another question.

So if something is "falling", than what about the time period between let's say when I'm holding a pencil and than the pencil hitting the desk? Between those two, is the pencil actually just floating there waiting for the table to go up to it?

Yes, that's a reasonable assessment.

*According to FE Theory.

Okay so than the object never moves, it just floats there. Okay.


What about skydiving? If you've ever watched a video showing a skydiver, you can see that a whole bunch of air is being shot vertically at them, causing their hair/clothes/arms to be pulled slightly upwards. How is this happening if they are just standing still waiting for the Earth to come up to them? I don't think wind blows vertically like that.

Also, if you were to hold a a camera to the side of the divers at a certain point, they would appear to be moving down rather than staying at the same level of where they were dropped, wouldn't they?

Okay so than the object never moves, it just floats there. Okay.


What about skydiving? If you've ever watched a video showing a skydiver, you can see that a whole bunch of air is being shot vertically at them, causing their hair/clothes/arms to be pulled slightly upwards. How is this happening if they are just standing still waiting for the Earth to come up to them? I don't think wind blows vertically like that.

The air, like everything else, accelerates with the earth, so the air is moving up towards them. Wind doesn't appear to blow vertically because it's being accelerated with the rest of the world.

Also, if you were to hold a a camera to the side of the divers at a certain point, they would appear to be moving down rather than staying at the same level of where they were dropped, wouldn't they?

They would appear to be, of course, but this is placebo effect. In reality the earth is just moving up towards them.

Okay so than the object never moves, it just floats there. Okay.

Yep it floats and the earth catches up.

If you've ever watched a video showing a skydiver, you can see that a whole bunch of air is being shot vertically at them, causing their hair/clothes/arms to be pulled slightly upwards. How is this happening if they are just standing still waiting for the Earth to come up to them? I don't think wind blows vertically like that.

Don't know. Probably tied into fluid dynamics. FE answer probably doesn't work that well, as you start asking questions about the mass of individual molecules of air. Suspect answer is that the earth somehow scoops the atmosphere up. (!!!)

Also, if you were to hold a a camera to the side of the divers at a certain point, they would appear to be moving down rather than staying at the same level of where they were dropped, wouldn't they?

No. Aside from the screaming and flapping of arms, there'd be no difference.

Alrighty than that's all I wanted to know. Thanks for the modesty and good answers (unlike some people here). Although I'm not sure if you believe the Earth is flat or not, but kudos.

Quote from: Areweonfiya on September 15, 2009, 03:28:21 PM

Okay so than the object never moves, it just floats there. Okay.

Yep it floats and the earth catches up..

If this was true all objects would fall to the earth at the same rate regardless of mass.

Another one of many fails for FE!

If this was true all objects would fall to the earth at the same rate regardless of mass.

Actually, as much as I hate to agree with anything to come out of FET, that is accurate. All objects fall at the same speed, regardless of mass. The apparent difference is due to wind resistance.

In a vacuum chamber, for example, a feather and a cannon ball fall at the same speed (which, incidentally, is 9.8m/s²).

The air, like everything else, accelerates with the earth, so the air is moving up towards them.

That, however, is wrong. If the air were being accelerated along with the earth, there'd be no atmospheric pressure (which is caused by the weight of the atmosphere pushing on the surface).

That, however, is wrong. If the air were being accelerated along with the earth, there'd be no atmospheric pressure (which is caused by the weight of the atmosphere pushing on the surface).

For some reason, the earth, stars, the sun etc. do accelerate. But, rocks, humans, bananas etc. do not. I have to point out that there are mountains the size of FE moon and they surely have weight.

Also we have extremely precise instruments to measure gravity, and they are very simple as a concept. A void tube with a piece of something inside and a laser that measures distance at the top. When the thing is dropped it's acceleration is measured. The laser is precise enough to measure the influence of the moon, a mountain and even a crowd of people have on the acceleration, not to mention the influence of height.

So since it's impossible for the air to be accelerating, than what is causing this freefall wind? Also what about air resistance? Is that a myth to?

That, however, is wrong. If the air were being accelerated along with the earth, there'd be no atmospheric pressure (which is caused by the weight of the atmosphere pushing on the surface).

The Earth is pushing the air up due to its acceleration, which is the same thing as the air pushing on the surface of the RE.

Quote from: Tristan on September 16, 2009, 01:30:10 AM

That, however, is wrong. If the air were being accelerated along with the earth, there'd be no atmospheric pressure (which is caused by the weight of the atmosphere pushing on the surface).

The Earth is pushing the air up due to its acceleration, which is the same thing as the air pushing on the surface of the RE.

Same thing, different wording.

Which specific things are magically accelerating and why has never clearly been explained, (to me anyway).

Quote from: Tristan on September 16, 2009, 01:30:10 AM

That, however, is wrong. If the air were being accelerated along with the earth, there'd be no atmospheric pressure (which is caused by the weight of the atmosphere pushing on the surface).

The Earth is pushing the air up due to its acceleration, which is the same thing as the air pushing on the surface of the RE.

If that is true than why do some places have different air pressure than others?

Quote from: Jack on September 16, 2009, 10:51:01 PM

The Earth is pushing the air up due to its acceleration, which is the same thing as the air pushing on the surface of the RE.

If that is true than why do some places have different air pressure than others?

Locally, it's due to heat and wind. Air pressure drops off as you climb higher due to there being less air on top of you. But all these things would behave the same way on both a round and flat earth.

Of course, Coriolis force messes this up a bit too, but that's off topic.

If i droped a brick of a cliff then the speed it falls accelerates untill it reaches the maximum gravity will allow it.
How can this happen in FET if the earth is travelling at a constant speed the brick wont need to accelerate will it.

If i droped a brick of a cliff then the speed it falls accelerates untill it reaches the maximum gravity will allow it.
How can this happen in FET if the earth is travelling at a constant speed the brick wont need to accelerate will it.

Sorry, but what?!

if i jump of a cliff the rate i fall gets faster the longer i fall because of gravity.
In FET there is no gravity just the earth rising at a set speed, so if i jumped of a cliff in fet i would hover there untill the earth came to me making it seem i was falling, but the speed i was falling wouldnt get faster would it

The Earth isn't moving at a constant speed, it is accelerating. Have you read the FAQ?

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Also, if you were to hold a a camera to the side of the divers at a certain point, they would appear to be moving down rather than staying at the same level of where they were dropped, wouldn't they?

They would appear to be, of course, but this is placebo effect. In reality the earth is just moving up towards them.

Placebo effect: a reaction to a placebo manifested by a lessening of symptoms or the production of anticipated side effects.

Placebo:
1.   Medicine/Medical, Pharmacology.
a.   a substance having no pharmacological effect but given merely to satisfy a patient who supposes it to be a medicine.
b.   a substance having no pharmacological effect but administered as a control in testing experimentally or clinically the efficacy of a biologically active preparation.
2.   Roman Catholic Church. the vespers of the office for the dead: so called from the initial word of the first antiphon, taken from Psalm 114:9 of the Vulgate.

I just thought I'd tell you what you're talking about.


And the part I wanted to contribute:  The plane scenario shouldn't have anything to do w/ the earth being flat or otherwise, the laws that have been speculated to apply to both theories should cover this.