Concept Model for Why Flat Earth Theory can not be true.

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magu2k

Concept Model for Why Flat Earth Theory can not be true.
« on: September 13, 2009, 11:40:23 PM »
Mind I am not asserting this as fact but anyone is welcome to add to this if they have it. This initial post is just to establish how if earth is flat there has to be a conspiracy and how that conspiracy could not be feasible.

I will (at a later time) post information on who would have to be in on the supposed conspiracy and what factors make it inconceivable.

The basic concept I have had in mind is
~ If the earth is flat
~ Certain people and or groups have to know about this such as
 1. People involved in the development of technology that involves the nature of a round earth, such as GPS.
 2. Certain people who are allegedly actively hiding the (supposed) ice wall and other specific earth related factors hidden from
     us because they differ from our commonly accepted round earth theory.
~ If All these people are involved and know.
~ Is it possible to keep this flat earth *conspiracy* secret?
« Last Edit: September 13, 2009, 11:44:34 PM by magu2k »

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Re: Concept Model for Why Flat Earth Theory can not be true.
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2009, 12:17:16 AM »
Im only going to cover the first one.  None of those people have to be involved.  Considering the government was the first to utilize GPS technology the signals were already in place prior to the supposed launch of the first GPS satellite.   So they all assume the satellite is up there and start "receiving" a signal from it.  When in all actuality they are getting it from a ground based tower that was already there waiting to be received.

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Re: Concept Model for Why Flat Earth Theory can not be true.
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2009, 02:34:34 AM »
source for information plz?

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Re: Concept Model for Why Flat Earth Theory can not be true.
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2009, 04:56:31 AM »
If a conspiracy exists, it would need to encompass people and organisations who are in a position to discover the truth, not just the ones who already know about it. This becomes problematic for a conspiracy model as, with such a fundamental truth like "the earth is flat" the number of people who could conceivably work it out becomes very large indeed. Especially since, according to the FAQ, anyone with a telescope and a big stretch of water can prove it.

Simply put, sure, the President doesn't 'need' to know the truth, but being the President and all, it probably wouldn't be too hard for him or her to find out, given that NASA is an agency of the US government. So there would need to be a pretty good contingency plan within the conspiracy to deal with that. Multiply that by every person who could work it out if they wanted and you get an awful lot of contingencies.

And it gets extra complicated when you consider that space race was an offshoot of the cold war, which means the Americans and the Russians were both faking aerospace data whilst covertly trading bullets in the Middle East and South America. And that's not even adding China into the mix, let alone Japan, India, the UK, Israel and Iran.

It's a soft spot that doesn't get much attention on this site, but the fact is that NASA is not the be all and end all of space exploration, and in truth, played catch-up to the Soviets for the majority of the cold war.
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Re: Concept Model for Why Flat Earth Theory can not be true.
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2009, 01:50:21 PM »
If you say that the earth is flat, you are destroying centuries of evolution.

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Re: Concept Model for Why Flat Earth Theory can not be true.
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2009, 11:31:59 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangulation

Has been used by cellular telephone towers for years. Long before GPS devices came out.

Funny how all GPS devices also have most of the same equipment as cellular phones.
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Re: Concept Model for Why Flat Earth Theory can not be true.
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2009, 05:07:33 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangulation

Has been used by cellular telephone towers for years. Long before GPS devices came out.

Funny how all GPS devices also have most of the same equipment as cellular phones.

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1)  Please learn the difference between triangulation (where angles are used) and multilateration (where time difference of arrival of a signal is used).  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multilateration

2)  GPS has been in use since the '80s.  Cell phone location via GSM didn't come out until about 2000 or so. 
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Re: Concept Model for Why Flat Earth Theory can not be true.
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2009, 07:42:23 PM »
Also with all of the private companies now in a race to be the first to offer a commercial trip to space, they would have to know, or would be shut up for fear of finding out.  I think the first launch is scheduled for 2012 according to popsci, that will be the final nail in the coffin of this theory, or possibly the RE theory, but i wouldn't put money on the latter due to evidence backing it up.

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Re: Concept Model for Why Flat Earth Theory can not be true.
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2009, 07:54:50 AM »
Also with all of the private companies now in a race to be the first to offer a commercial trip to space, they would have to know, or would be shut up for fear of finding out.  I think the first launch is scheduled for 2012 according to popsci, that will be the final nail in the coffin of this theory, or possibly the RE theory, but i wouldn't put money on the latter due to evidence backing it up.

None of the commercial flights are to orbit.  Parabolic only right now.  Proves nothing.

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Re: Concept Model for Why Flat Earth Theory can not be true.
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2009, 09:20:10 AM »
Also with all of the private companies now in a race to be the first to offer a commercial trip to space, they would have to know, or would be shut up for fear of finding out.  I think the first launch is scheduled for 2012 according to popsci, that will be the final nail in the coffin of this theory, or possibly the RE theory, but i wouldn't put money on the latter due to evidence backing it up.

None of the commercial flights are to orbit.  Parabolic only right now.  Proves nothing.
Who said it had to be orbital?  My point is there are at least 5-6 private companies that i know of, and there are probably more, that are in this space race.  They will still get up high enough to see if the earth is in fact round or flat.  That means that either these people are in on the conspiracy and so are all of their customers (which is highly unlikely) or the conspiracy will shut them down.  Or the earth is in fact round and they will be able to see that.

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Re: Concept Model for Why Flat Earth Theory can not be true.
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2009, 09:29:14 AM »
Also with all of the private companies now in a race to be the first to offer a commercial trip to space, they would have to know, or would be shut up for fear of finding out.  I think the first launch is scheduled for 2012 according to popsci, that will be the final nail in the coffin of this theory, or possibly the RE theory, but i wouldn't put money on the latter due to evidence backing it up.

None of the commercial flights are to orbit.  Parabolic only right now.  Proves nothing.
Who said it had to be orbital?  My point is there are at least 5-6 private companies that i know of, and there are probably more, that are in this space race.  They will still get up high enough to see if the earth is in fact round or flat.  That means that either these people are in on the conspiracy and so are all of their customers (which is highly unlikely) or the conspiracy will shut them down.  Or the earth is in fact round and they will be able to see that.

No what it means is, that only an orbital flight would prove a round earth.  A parabolic is only going to show the rounded edge of a spotlight shining down on a flat surface.

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Re: Concept Model for Why Flat Earth Theory can not be true.
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2009, 11:11:01 AM »
Also with all of the private companies now in a race to be the first to offer a commercial trip to space, they would have to know, or would be shut up for fear of finding out.  I think the first launch is scheduled for 2012 according to popsci, that will be the final nail in the coffin of this theory, or possibly the RE theory, but i wouldn't put money on the latter due to evidence backing it up.

None of the commercial flights are to orbit.  Parabolic only right now.  Proves nothing.
Who said it had to be orbital?  My point is there are at least 5-6 private companies that i know of, and there are probably more, that are in this space race.  They will still get up high enough to see if the earth is in fact round or flat.  That means that either these people are in on the conspiracy and so are all of their customers (which is highly unlikely) or the conspiracy will shut them down.  Or the earth is in fact round and they will be able to see that.

No what it means is, that only an orbital flight would prove a round earth.  A parabolic is only going to show the rounded edge of a spotlight shining down on a flat surface.

That's nonsense. Anyone can easily tell the difference between those two things even from a single viewpoint in space.
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Re: Concept Model for Why Flat Earth Theory can not be true.
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2009, 12:31:47 PM »
So they all assume the satellite is up there and start "receiving" a signal from it.

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Except the satellite has to be up there transmitting signals.

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