# Gravity

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#### General Dallows

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« on: July 10, 2006, 02:34:51 PM »
This just popped into my head. You are in a car travelling at a constant speed of 100 MPH. Still going at that speed, you jump out of the car. Your body continues to move forward at the same speed the car goes (An object in motion stays in motion) Gravity takes effect, and you hit the ground, and begin to slow down. If there was no gravity, you would continue going the same speed as the car was until you hit something, or find some other way to stop.

Now, since everything is moving at a very fast speed upwards, if you walked off a ledge, you'd be travelling at the same speed the earth is, and you would not fall, because there is no force pushing you down, and when your feet were on the ground, you were being accelerated with the earth.
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#### 6strings

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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2006, 02:40:18 PM »
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Now, since everything is moving at a very fast speed upwards, if you walked off a ledge, you'd be travelling at the same speed the earth is, and you would not fall, because there is no force pushing you down, and when your feet were on the ground, you were being accelerated with the earth.

No, the moment you loose contact with the earth, there is no longer any force being applied to your body, and you are thus no longer accelerating, the earth, however, continues to accelerate...and splat.

#### TheEngineer

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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2006, 02:51:23 PM »
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Gravity takes effect,

Gravity is always in effect.  It doesn't just kick in.
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Now, since everything is moving at a very fast speed upwards, if you walked off a ledge, you'd be travelling at the same speed the earth is, and you would not fall, because there is no force pushing you down, and when your feet were on the ground, you were being accelerated with the earth.

Nice violation of the Newtonian laws of motion.

Let's take a look at how the three laws of motion really apply:

You are standing on a cliff.  By the 3rd law, you push on the earth, the earth pushes on your feet.  This means that as the earth accelerates, the force is applied to you.  So at any instant, you are traveling at the same speed as the earth.  Now, you jump off the cliff.
By the 3rd law, you are no longer have the force of earth on your feet, and by the 2nd law, force is now zero, so acceleration must also be zero.
By the first law, you will continue with the same velocity that you had when you stepped off the cliff.  However, the earth is still accelerating, and has gained velocity since you left the cliff, so the ground rushes up to you, and then you die.

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#### General Dallows

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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2006, 02:55:41 PM »
But if there's nothing pushing you down, you'd keep going up.
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#### TheEngineer

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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2006, 03:21:51 PM »
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But if there's nothing pushing you down, you'd keep going up.

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#### General Dallows

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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2006, 03:34:46 PM »
Yes but what's making me push against the earth?If there's no gravity, nothing's keeping me down, except the earth going up. If I were to jump up, I'd keep going with the earth.
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#### 6strings

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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2006, 03:36:10 PM »
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f I were to jump up, I'd keep going with the earth.

This is incoherent; rephrase for clarity.

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#### General Dallows

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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2006, 03:38:25 PM »
...there....is...nothing....pushing....me...down. The....only...thing...moving....is...earth... Therefore....if...I...were...to...step...off...of...a...ledge.....I'd...keep...moving...up...with...earth.
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#### 6strings

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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2006, 03:41:13 PM »
No, the earth continues to accelerate (gains velocity) while you, not having any force acting on you, continue at a constant velocity.

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#### General Dallows

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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2006, 03:43:57 PM »
oh... okey... so the earth will keep getting faster until it disintigrates under it's own speed?
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#### Dr. Bakerfield

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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2006, 03:45:24 PM »

BWHAHAHAHAA

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#### 6strings

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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2006, 03:45:38 PM »
No, because, in addition to being a nearly incoherent phrase, that idea is useless, because things don't "disintegrate under their own speed".

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« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2006, 03:47:55 PM »
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...there....is...nothing....pushing....me...down. The....only...thing...moving....is...earth... Therefore....if...I...were...to...step...off...of...a...ledge.....I'd...keep...moving...up...with...earth.

Nice display of your ignorance of the 3 laws of motion.

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#### Dr. Bakerfield

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« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2006, 03:51:06 PM »
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Nice display of your ignorance of the 3 laws of motion.

Did you know that this actual forum is a awesome display of human stupidity?

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« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2006, 03:52:39 PM »
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Nice display of your ignorance of the 3 laws of motion.

Did you know that this actual forum is a awesome display of human stupidity?

Some of the dumbest things I have ever seen posted on this site come from RE'ers.

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#### General Dallows

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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2006, 03:55:35 PM »
If the earth is constantly acceleration, at some point it would reach the speed of light. As an object approaches toward the speed of light, the mass of the object increases towards infinity. As a human increases velocity towards the speed of light, the mass of his/her body would increase as well. That makes their blood harder to pump through their veins. At the speed of light, whatever object would have infinite mass, thus, their blood could not be pumped through their bodies because the mass would just be a "little" more than their hearts could handle resulting in death. Most likely to occur long before the speed of light was achieved.
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#### 6strings

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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2006, 03:58:20 PM »
Actually, we'd probably just collapse beneath our own weight.  Luckily, that only applies if we were to approach the speed of light whithin our own reference frame, which we can't, so your worries are unfounded.  for more on this, read the FAQ, should you find that inadequate, I direct you to the search function.

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#### General Dallows

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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2006, 03:59:26 PM »
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Actually, we'd probably just collapse beneath our own weight.

...That's pretty much what I just said.
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#### Dr. Bakerfield

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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2006, 04:00:15 PM »
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Some of the dumbest things I have ever seen posted on this site come from RE'ers.

That could be, but that's not what I said.

This whole FE stuff is so ridicolous, COME ON, take an hour of your time and think.

Pinguins guarding an never melting ice wall?
Governments (which we have 1000s of) hiding something when they have enough better stuff to do and when it doesn't make sense at all to hide it?

And saying satellites don't exist is retarded, take an telescope and search.

Human stupidity can be such an bitch!

Even though I don't believe people really believe in FE, but are merely here to piss others off, I liked to post this.

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#### 6strings

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« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2006, 04:01:33 PM »
No, you spouted some garbage abouot our blood becoming to heavy.  In any case, that's not the real issue.

#### TheEngineer

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« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2006, 04:01:47 PM »

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#### General Dallows

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« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2006, 04:04:41 PM »
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No, you spouted some garbage abouot our blood becoming to heavy.

Body getting crushed, blood being too heavy. What makes my opinion sound less reasonable than yours?
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#### TheEngineer

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« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2006, 04:10:17 PM »
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This whole FE stuff is so ridicolous, COME ON, take an hour of your time and think.

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Pinguins guarding an never melting ice wall?

That was a dumb reply to a dumb question, but all of a sudden, the RE'ers make it out to be the FE'ers stance.
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Human stupidity can be such an bitch!

Yea, I know.  I had a RE'er tell me that the government genetically engineered ice so that it could attack ships (titanic).  Oh, and then an RE'er told me that the sun was powered by fission and that all nuke reactors were fussion because the process of fission is so powerful, we wouldn't be able to contain it on earth.  I swear...

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#### 6strings

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« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2006, 04:11:38 PM »
It just seems to me that blood would have to gain considerable mass for your heart, the one of the strongest muscles in your body, to be unable to pump it.  Most likely, we'd die of asphyxiation, because our lungs wouldn't be able to continuously work against the press of air.

However, I do aplogize for any insult offered to your idea, given that I have no ida how humans handle high-gravity environments, and I such, I have no real idea what would happen.

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#### Dr. Bakerfield

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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2006, 04:11:45 PM »
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Yea, I know.  I had a RE'er tell me that the government genetically engineered ice so that it could attack ships (titanic).  Oh, and then an RE'er told me that the sun was powered by fission and that all nuke reactors were fussion because the process of fission is so powerful, we wouldn't be able to contain it on earth.  I swear...

All those things are nothing compared to saying the earth is flat.

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« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2006, 04:16:57 PM »
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All those things are nothing compared to saying the earth is flat.

When did I do that?

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#### Dr. Bakerfield

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« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2006, 04:19:01 PM »
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When did I do that?

Excuse me sir, I meant to refer to the FE believers.

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#### CrimsonKing

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« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2006, 04:32:04 PM »
Actually, i have a document on Word where I collect all the amazingly dumb yet awesome things posted here... we have the Penguins being created in the 60's, dinosaurs having powertools, Xargos post about his intestinal leprachauns, and other classics
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#### TheEngineer

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« Reply #28 on: July 10, 2006, 04:33:54 PM »
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Excuse me sir, I meant to refer to the FE believers.

Seeing as you have been here all of two days, I will forgive the fact you have missed the main point of this forum.

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#### Dr. Bakerfield

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« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2006, 04:38:22 PM »
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Seeing as you have been here all of two days, I will forgive the fact you have missed the main point of this forum.

The main point seems to be to preach and discuss bullshit.

However, there must be a different reason, since Im so unexperienced and all.