You Don't Convince Me

Quote from: Squat on September 13, 2009, 02:42:25 PM

I've seen it, It was Buzz Aldrin and he was called a liar to his face. I'd have punched the guy under the same circumstances.

You mean if you'd pretended you'd been to the moon and someone asked you to swear on the bible but you knew you hadn't really you'd get so angry and perplexed that you'd punch him in the face?

If you watch the videos closer, you will notice that the guy (Bart Sibrel) was a real ass.  He pretty much ambushed the astronauts, called them liars and cowards then demanded that they swear on a bible.  If he had been more civil about it, I'm thinking that the results would have been far different.

Please present one example, preferably independantly confirmable.

Well, for one, 5 of the 6 astro-nots who supposedly went to the moon refused to swear on the bible that it was so. Also, it's been proven on this board in many different ways that the earth is flat; following that, the program must be fake because it shows the earth as being round.

Please present one example, preferably independantly confirmable.

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Please present one example, preferably independantly confirmable.

Well, for one, 5 of the 6 astro-nots who supposedly went to the moon refused to swear on the bible that it was so. Also, it's been proven on this board in many different ways that the earth is flat; following that, the program must be fake because it shows the earth as being round.

Please present one example, preferably independantly confirmable.

Don't you remember? I'm done with your game of "Prove me wrong."

This is what round earthers often do. They demand proof of claims then try to find one reason why one small part of that proof could be invalid.

How about this: What proof is there that we actually DID go to the moon?

Quote from: oscarg on September 14, 2009, 12:32:22 AM

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Please present one example, preferably independantly confirmable.

Well, for one, 5 of the 6 astro-nots who supposedly went to the moon refused to swear on the bible that it was so. Also, it's been proven on this board in many different ways that the earth is flat; following that, the program must be fake because it shows the earth as being round.

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Please present one example, preferably independantly confirmable.

Don't you remember? I'm done with your game of "Prove me wrong."

You don't see where I am coming from.. I am not trying to prove anything.

I am giving you an opportunity to let me understand why you think this (yes I want to know).

This was question 3 (Evidence).
You said there was evidence  - show me - please - why do you think this?

Help me understand.

Like I said, the earth has been proven flat through logic/reason, therefore the moon landing must be fake. This is further propelled by the fact that 5 of the 6 astro-nots refused to swear on the bible that they'd actually been to the moon.

You can find entire websites dedicated to exposing this with a Google search for "moon landing hoax." They've found flaws in the supposed "moon pictures," analyzed the body language of people when they claim they've been to the moon (and found that based on it they were being dishonest), and found inconsistencies in the studio-taken photos/videos (the images of the earth, for example, are actually inconsistent with the RET model).

Now, I am asking the same of you. What proof is there that we actually did land on the moon? Help me understand why you think this. Don't just try to find one small part of one piece of evidence that I presented that you think isn't right; present some of your own.

Like I said, the earth has been proven flat through logic/reason, therefore the moon landing must be fake. This is further propelled by the fact that 5 of the 6 astro-nots refused to swear on the bible that they'd actually been to the moon.

To Me this is proof of nothing. If you look at it from either angle it seems to back up the point ie the Astronauts are lying, or the no landing whackos are idiots chasing old astronauts around with bibles, rather than looking for real proof.

Under any circumstances this is not evidence, it is more like hear/say or "He Said/She said" Fuff.
For all we know they could ALL be actors, pushing a third conspiracy none of us know about, but we won't know because it is not evidence.

You can find entire websites dedicated to exposing this with a Google search for "moon landing hoax." They've found flaws in the supposed "moon pictures," analyzed the body language of people when they claim they've been to the moon (and found that based on it they were being dishonest), and found inconsistencies in the studio-taken photos/videos (the images of the earth, for example, are actually inconsistent with the RET model).

Maybe you have confused this thread with another, we were talking about the conspiracy, that has the guys with machine guns manning the ice wall, which surrounds the earth, that someone is keeping the flat earth a secret (etc etc) 

and you claimed there was evidence to back that up.

I ask again for for one example of that evidence.

Now, I am asking the same of you. What proof is there that we actually did land on the moon? Help me understand why you think this. Don't just try to find one small part of one piece of evidence that I presented that you think isn't right; present some of your own.

The Moon Landing is an entirely different topic.
I would gladly discuss it, and the tremendous work that went into it, and the amzing fields that it opened up in the study of many different parts of science, but that is for another thread.

We are discussing here Flat Earth, and specifically proof of the conspiracy which hides it.

thanks

OscarG

Maybe you have confused this thread with another, we were talking about the conspiracy, that has the guys with machine guns manning the ice wall, which surrounds the earth, that someone is keeping the flat earth a secret (etc etc) 

I'm pretty sure we were talking about the moon landing. But I don't think there are machine guns manning the ice wall.

The Moon Landing is an entirely different topic.
I would gladly discuss it, and the tremendous work that went into it, and the amzing fields that it opened up in the study of many different parts of science, but that is for another thread.

We are discussing here Flat Earth, and specifically proof of the conspiracy which hides it.

They are different but I'm pretty sure that we've been discussing the moon landing hoax, if you scroll up.

Still, I've noticed that you did not heed my request...

Don't just try to find one small part of one piece of evidence that I presented that you think isn't right; present some of your own.

Like I said, the earth has been proven flat through logic/reason, therefore the moon landing must be fake. This is further propelled by the fact that 5 of the 6 astro-nots refused to swear on the bible that they'd actually been to the moon.

Twelve men have walked on the moon. Their footprints are there, and will still be there long after the FES has disappeared.  Where you get the idea there were just 6 from I don't know.

HTH

Twelve men have walked on the moon. Their footprints are there, and will still be there long after the FES has disappeared.  Where you get the idea there were just 6 from I don't know.

HTH

What makes you think their footprints are there? The evidence I gave is all identifiable but because there is no way to tell if their footprints are there or not it cannot count as evidence to either side. If they had actually gone, their footprints would be there, however, they didn't, so they're not.

What makes you think there were only 6 astronauts that (to your mind supposedly) went to the moon?

Quote from: Crustinator on September 13, 2009, 04:05:13 PM

Because it's insultingly stupid to suggest that they didn't go to the moon. Without further details I think it's safe to say the guy was a prick and deserved what he got. Prove me wrong.

This is what round earthers often do. They demand proof of claims then try to find one reason why one small part of that proof could be invalid.

How about this: What proof is there that we actually DID go to the moon?

Well, I've had her up on the hydraulics and it's bad new I'm afraid sir. That banging noise... that was your sense of humour. It's failing bad, which is what's causing all that noise. It'll probably be a week before I can get the replacement part in.

What makes you think there were only 6 astronauts that (to your mind supposedly) went to the moon?

I don't... I think there are 0 astro-nots who went to the moon.

Quote from: Squat on September 14, 2009, 11:17:20 AM

What makes you think there were only 6 astronauts that (to your mind supposedly) went to the moon?

I don't... I think there are 0 astro-nots who went to the moon.

Your earlier post said that 5 of the 6 astro-nots; 5 of the 12 would have been more accurate

Quote from: W on September 14, 2009, 12:01:23 PM

Quote from: Squat on September 14, 2009, 11:17:20 AM

What makes you think there were only 6 astronauts that (to your mind supposedly) went to the moon?

I don't... I think there are 0 astro-nots who went to the moon.

Your earlier post said that 5 of the 6 astro-nots; 5 of the 12 would have been more accurate

More like 5 of the 0.

Quote from: Squat on September 14, 2009, 12:21:46 PM

Quote from: W on September 14, 2009, 12:01:23 PM

Quote from: Squat on September 14, 2009, 11:17:20 AM

What makes you think there were only 6 astronauts that (to your mind supposedly) went to the moon?

I don't... I think there are 0 astro-nots who went to the moon.

Your earlier post said that 5 of the 6 astro-nots; 5 of the 12 would have been more accurate

More like 5 of the 0.

FE logic

Quote from: W on September 14, 2009, 12:22:25 PM

Quote from: Squat on September 14, 2009, 12:21:46 PM

Quote from: W on September 14, 2009, 12:01:23 PM

Quote from: Squat on September 14, 2009, 11:17:20 AM

What makes you think there were only 6 astronauts that (to your mind supposedly) went to the moon?

I don't... I think there are 0 astro-nots who went to the moon.

Your earlier post said that 5 of the 6 astro-nots; 5 of the 12 would have been more accurate

More like 5 of the 0.

FE logic

is logic. RE logic is delusion.

More like 5 of the 0.

Please explain 5 of the 0

Quote from: W on September 14, 2009, 12:22:25 PM

More like 5 of the 0.

Please explain 5 of the 0

Explain yourself.

Quote from: Squat on September 14, 2009, 11:17:20 AM

What makes you think there were only 6 astronauts that (to your mind supposedly) went to the moon?

I don't... I think there are 0 astro-nots who went to the moon.

How about this: Why did you think only 6 astronauts claimed to have been on the moon? Why did you use that number?

I think you know exactly what we are asking here and are just being difficult.

Out with it.

Quote from: Squat on September 14, 2009, 12:27:07 PM

Quote from: W on September 14, 2009, 12:22:25 PM

More like 5 of the 0.

Please explain 5 of the 0

Explain yourself.

If you have difficulty in explaining what 5 of the 0 means you shouldn't use it. I understand '5 of the 6 refused to swear on the bible' - it means one was happy to swear on the bible but I don't understand '5 of the 0'. It is gobbledygook as you well know.