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Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« on: September 05, 2009, 09:43:25 PM »
I have for you all a simple observation which supports the belief that the Earth is round: the existence of the horizon. The horizon can be seen incredibly clearly from any ocean. The horizon is caused by the curvature of the Earth. Standing on a shore of the Atlantic Ocean in America, looking east, one cannot see Europe. If you have one, I kindly request an explanation from a Flat Earth Theorist.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2009, 09:55:35 PM »
It's a perspective effect, one described in "Earth Not a Globe". There is a copy of it free online. Also, have you read the FAQ? If not, read it.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2009, 10:02:15 PM »
Quote from: Waste of Mind on September 05, 2009, 09:55:35 PM
It's a perspective effect, one described in "Earth Not a Globe". There is a copy of it free online. Also, have you read the FAQ? If not, read it.

Do you have a link to the book? Air is also not transparent, as we can easily see objects such as stars and the moon from the Earth's surface, which are incredibly far away from the Earth.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2009, 10:05:49 PM »
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: Waste of Mind on September 05, 2009, 09:55:35 PM
It's a perspective effect, one described in "Earth Not a Globe". There is a copy of it free online. Also, have you read the FAQ? If not, read it.

Do you have a link to the book? Air is also not transparent, as we can easily see objects such as stars and the moon from the Earth's surface, which are incredibly far away from the Earth.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za00.htm
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2009, 10:12:16 PM »
Quote from: Waste of Mind on September 05, 2009, 10:05:49 PM
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: Waste of Mind on September 05, 2009, 09:55:35 PM
It's a perspective effect, one described in "Earth Not a Globe". There is a copy of it free online. Also, have you read the FAQ? If not, read it.

Do you have a link to the book? Air is also not transparent, as we can easily see objects such as stars and the moon from the Earth's surface, which are incredibly far away from the Earth.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za00.htm

Thank you for the link. I am afraid, though, that I will not be convinced the earth is flat; there is simply too much evidence supporting its roundness.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2009, 10:16:39 PM »
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:12:16 PM
Thank you for the link. I am afraid, though, that I will not be convinced the earth is flat; there is simply too much evidence supporting its roundness.

Behold, the dogma of a REer.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2009, 10:17:10 PM »
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:12:16 PM
Quote from: Waste of Mind on September 05, 2009, 10:05:49 PM
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: Waste of Mind on September 05, 2009, 09:55:35 PM
It's a perspective effect, one described in "Earth Not a Globe". There is a copy of it free online. Also, have you read the FAQ? If not, read it.

Do you have a link to the book? Air is also not transparent, as we can easily see objects such as stars and the moon from the Earth's surface, which are incredibly far away from the Earth.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za00.htm

Thank you for the link. I am afraid, though, that I will not be convinced the earth is flat; there is simply too much evidence supporting its roundness.
Then why are you on a website for debating the shape of the earth?
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2009, 10:26:50 PM »
Quote from: Waste of Mind on September 05, 2009, 10:17:10 PM
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:12:16 PM
Quote from: Waste of Mind on September 05, 2009, 10:05:49 PM
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: Waste of Mind on September 05, 2009, 09:55:35 PM
It's a perspective effect, one described in "Earth Not a Globe". There is a copy of it free online. Also, have you read the FAQ? If not, read it.

Do you have a link to the book? Air is also not transparent, as we can easily see objects such as stars and the moon from the Earth's surface, which are incredibly far away from the Earth.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za00.htm

Thank you for the link. I am afraid, though, that I will not be convinced the earth is flat; there is simply too much evidence supporting its roundness.
Then why are you on a website for debating the shape of the earth?

I am fairly skilled in the art of physics, and am skilled in debate. I have the capacity to understand my opponent in a debate, but remain unchanged in my opinion. Your evidence is shaky at best, while hundreds of thousands of scientists who preceded us, including some of the greatest minds in the history of society, support Round Earth theory, as does virtually all of the evidence ever accumulated by science. I find that Round Earth simply makes more sense, as many of the major scientific theories Fit in a Round Earth scenario. I am however intrigued to see a point of view I never have before. The people who believe the Earth is flat probably also believe that 9/11 was a inside job. You all are just wannabe rebels who are too scared to do anything major or revolutionary. You have the gall to imply me being ignorant for knowing the Earth is round, while you at the same time cannot accept that the Earth is not flat. You have no room to talk about me. Go back to your room and cry yourself to sleep because your parents told you there was never a jolly old man in a red suit who brings you presents every Christmas.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2009, 10:30:04 PM »
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:26:50 PM
Quote from: Waste of Mind on September 05, 2009, 10:17:10 PM
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:12:16 PM
Quote from: Waste of Mind on September 05, 2009, 10:05:49 PM
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: Waste of Mind on September 05, 2009, 09:55:35 PM
It's a perspective effect, one described in "Earth Not a Globe". There is a copy of it free online. Also, have you read the FAQ? If not, read it.

Do you have a link to the book? Air is also not transparent, as we can easily see objects such as stars and the moon from the Earth's surface, which are incredibly far away from the Earth.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za00.htm

Thank you for the link. I am afraid, though, that I will not be convinced the earth is flat; there is simply too much evidence supporting its roundness.
Then why are you on a website for debating the shape of the earth?

I am fairly skilled in the art of physics, and am skilled in debate. I have the capacity to understand my opponent in a debate, but remain unchanged in my opinion. Your evidence is shaky at best, while hundreds of thousands of scientists who preceded us, including some of the greatest minds in the history of society, support Round Earth theory, as does virtually all of the evidence ever accumulated by science. I find that Round Earth simply makes more sense, as many of the major scientific theories Fit in a Round Earth scenario. I am however intrigued to see a point of view I never have before. The people who believe the Earth is flat probably also believe that 9/11 was a inside job. You all are just wannabe rebels who are too scared to do anything major or revolutionary. You have the gall to imply me being ignorant for knowing the Earth is round, while you at the same time cannot accept that the Earth is not flat. You have no room to talk about me. Go back to your room and cry yourself to sleep because your parents told you there was never a jolly old man in a red suit who brings you presents every Christmas.
You will fit in nicely here
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2009, 10:32:02 PM »
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:26:50 PM
The people who believe the Earth is flat probably also believe that 9/11 was a inside job.

Why should a correlation exist? The shape of the Earth has nothing to do with international terrorism.

Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:26:50 PM
You have the gall to imply me being ignorant for knowing the Earth is round, while you at the same time cannot accept that the Earth is not flat.

No, you are ignorant because you make sweeping statements about Flat Earthers without bothering to educate yourself regarding Flat Earth Theory. We do not accept the Earth is not flat because we do not see substantial evidence for such a statement, but few of us would seriously claim to know the shape of the Earth as you do. The delusion of certain knowledge is the worst form of ignorance of them all.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2009, 10:33:39 PM »
Quote from: Robosteve on September 05, 2009, 10:32:02 PM
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:26:50 PM
The people who believe the Earth is flat probably also believe that 9/11 was a inside job.

Why should a correlation exist? The shape of the Earth has nothing to do with international terrorism.

Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:26:50 PM
You have the gall to imply me being ignorant for knowing the Earth is round, while you at the same time cannot accept that the Earth is not flat.

No, you are ignorant because you make sweeping statements about Flat Earthers without bothering to educate yourself regarding Flat Earth Theory. We do not accept the Earth is not flat because we do not see substantial evidence for such a statement, but few of us would seriously claim to know the shape of the Earth as you do. The delusion of certain knowledge is the worst form of ignorance of them all.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2009, 10:36:51 PM »
Quote from: Round_Earth(No, flat) on September 05, 2009, 10:33:39 PM
Quote from: Robosteve on September 05, 2009, 10:32:02 PM
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:26:50 PM
The people who believe the Earth is flat probably also believe that 9/11 was a inside job.

Why should a correlation exist? The shape of the Earth has nothing to do with international terrorism.

Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:26:50 PM
You have the gall to imply me being ignorant for knowing the Earth is round, while you at the same time cannot accept that the Earth is not flat.

No, you are ignorant because you make sweeping statements about Flat Earthers without bothering to educate yourself regarding Flat Earth Theory. We do not accept the Earth is not flat because we do not see substantial evidence for such a statement, but few of us would seriously claim to know the shape of the Earth as you do. The delusion of certain knowledge is the worst form of ignorance of them all.

But you claim to know that the Earth is not round. You also have no room to talk. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2009, 10:37:55 PM »
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:36:51 PM
But you claim to know that the Earth is not round.

I am going to have to ask you to quote me having said any such thing, otherwise this statement constitutes libel.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2009, 10:40:28 PM »
Quote from: Robosteve on September 05, 2009, 10:37:55 PM
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:36:51 PM
But you claim to know that the Earth is not round.

I am going to have to ask you to quote me having said any such thing, otherwise this statement constitutes libel.

You are here, claiming the Earth is flat. To make such a bold assertion requires some certainty in and of itself. If you are allowed to make assumptions about the Earth, I am allowed to make assumptions about you.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2009, 10:42:08 PM »
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:40:28 PM
Quote from: Robosteve on September 05, 2009, 10:37:55 PM
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:36:51 PM
But you claim to know that the Earth is not round.

I am going to have to ask you to quote me having said any such thing, otherwise this statement constitutes libel.

You are here, claiming the Earth is flat. To make such a bold assertion requires some certainty in and of itself. If you are allowed to make assumptions about the Earth, I am allowed to make assumptions about you.

He believes the Earth is flat. You don't need to agree.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2009, 10:42:32 PM »
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:26:50 PM
I am fairly skilled in the art of physics, and am skilled in debate.

I'm intrigued and would like to know more about the Art of Physics.  Is this a new field?
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2009, 10:43:51 PM »
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:40:28 PM
You are here, claiming the Earth is flat.

Libel is illegal, you know.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2009, 10:44:18 PM »
And you cannot win a debate with robosteve.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2009, 10:45:11 PM »
Quote from: Mrs. Peach on September 05, 2009, 10:42:32 PM
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:26:50 PM
I am fairly skilled in the art of physics, and am skilled in debate.

I'm intrigued and would like to know more about the Art of Physics.  Is this a new field?

Do not mock me. I am more intelligent than almost anybody who supports Flat Earth seriously.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2009, 10:46:11 PM »
You're not showing it.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2009, 10:46:27 PM »
Quote from: Robosteve on September 05, 2009, 10:43:51 PM
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:40:28 PM
You are here, claiming the Earth is flat.

Libel is illegal, you know.

I can't really say that I care. The Earth is round I am afraid, plus half of you are calling me ignorant. Now the shoe is on the other foot.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2009, 10:46:58 PM »
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:45:11 PM
Quote from: Mrs. Peach on September 05, 2009, 10:42:32 PM
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:26:50 PM
I am fairly skilled in the art of physics, and am skilled in debate.

I'm intrigued and would like to know more about the Art of Physics.  Is this a new field?

Do not mock me. I am more intelligent than almost anybody who supports Flat Earth seriously.
I have an IQ of 219 and a PhD in Science.

This "lying on the internet" thing sure is fun!
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2009, 10:47:44 PM »
Quote from: Round_Earth(No, flat) on September 05, 2009, 10:44:18 PM
And you cannot win a debate with robosteve.

Watch me.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2009, 10:48:31 PM »
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:45:11 PM
Quote from: Mrs. Peach on September 05, 2009, 10:42:32 PM
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:26:50 PM
I am fairly skilled in the art of physics, and am skilled in debate.

I'm intrigued and would like to know more about the Art of Physics.  Is this a new field?

Do not mock me. I am more intelligent than almost anybody who supports Flat Earth seriously.

Luckily you left yourself some wiggle-room with that 'almost.'
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2009, 10:49:09 PM »
Quote from: Round_Earth(No, flat) on September 05, 2009, 10:46:11 PM
You're not showing it.

Nor are you, I am afraid. You posted in this thread to flame me. That is not exactly what I call intelligence.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2009, 10:50:08 PM »
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:46:27 PM
I can't really say that I care.

I have reported your post for libel. I trust that the board staff will take appropriate action.

Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:46:27 PM
The Earth is round I am afraid

Do you have any evidence for this claim?

Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:46:27 PM
plus half of you are calling me ignorant.

You are ignorant, not to mention arrogant. You think that it is possible to know the shape of the Earth for certain, and that you hold that knowledge.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2009, 10:50:44 PM »
Quote from: Waste of Mind on September 05, 2009, 10:46:58 PM
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:45:11 PM
Quote from: Mrs. Peach on September 05, 2009, 10:42:32 PM
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:26:50 PM
I am fairly skilled in the art of physics, and am skilled in debate.

I'm intrigued and would like to know more about the Art of Physics.  Is this a new field?

Do not mock me. I am more intelligent than almost anybody who supports Flat Earth seriously.
I have an IQ of 219 and a PhD in Science.

This "lying on the internet" thing sure is fun!

What school? What year did you recieve your Ph.D? What branch of science was you major? Why do you buy into all this crap about a flat Earth, or are you here to flame me as well?
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2009, 10:51:42 PM »
No one is flaming you, you just don't know how to debate. You lose.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2009, 10:52:22 PM »
The horizon is just how far you can see, which is influenced by many factors such as air density.
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Re: Observational Evidence for a Round Earth
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2009, 10:53:32 PM »
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:50:44 PM
Quote from: Waste of Mind on September 05, 2009, 10:46:58 PM
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:45:11 PM
Quote from: Mrs. Peach on September 05, 2009, 10:42:32 PM
Quote from: nerd51075 on September 05, 2009, 10:26:50 PM
I am fairly skilled in the art of physics, and am skilled in debate.

I'm intrigued and would like to know more about the Art of Physics.  Is this a new field?

Do not mock me. I am more intelligent than almost anybody who supports Flat Earth seriously.
I have an IQ of 219 and a PhD in Science.

This "lying on the internet" thing sure is fun!

What school? What year did you recieve your Ph.D? What branch of science was you major? Why do you buy into all this crap about a flat Earth, or are you here to flame me as well?
I got it from the Science Academy. 1969 (*snigger*) I already told you, in Science. Because it is the logical choice, and
Quote from: Round_Earth(No, flat) on September 05, 2009, 10:51:42 PM
No one is flaming you, you just don't know how to debate. You lose.
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