Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light

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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #330 on: May 03, 2008, 03:38:10 PM »
The speed of light does have a finite value.
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300,000 m/s.
Approximately, yes.

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You couldn't accelerate forever and not reach that.
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It's not magic.
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I'm right.
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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #331 on: May 03, 2008, 03:45:55 PM »
You make no fucking sense at all.
Lulz.
Explain, kindly?
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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #332 on: May 03, 2008, 03:48:36 PM »
Pick a part you would like explained. 


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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #333 on: May 03, 2008, 03:59:07 PM »
Explain how I am "wrong" in stating that you couldn't accelerate for ever?

Explain how it is plausable that the Earth could be doing this.

Explain this Dark Energy concept.

I want to know.
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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #334 on: May 03, 2008, 04:00:01 PM »
Whoever said anything about the earth accelerating forever?  ???
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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #335 on: May 03, 2008, 04:00:55 PM »
Explain how I am "wrong" in stating that you couldn't accelerate for ever?
It is not possible to accelerate forever.


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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #336 on: May 03, 2008, 04:11:24 PM »
Explain how I am "wrong" in stating that you couldn't accelerate for ever?
It is not possible to accelerate forever.

But according to FE the earth must always be accelerating at a speed of 9.8m/s/s, in order to explain the force of gravity.

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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #337 on: May 03, 2008, 04:15:03 PM »
Explain how I am "wrong" in stating that you couldn't accelerate for ever?
It is not possible to accelerate forever.

But according to FE the earth must always be accelerating at a speed of 9.8m/s/s, in order to explain the force of gravity.



Why would the earth constantly accelerating at a speed of 9.8m/s/s require it to be accelerating forever?
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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #338 on: May 03, 2008, 04:18:24 PM »
But according to FE the earth must always be accelerating at a speed of 9.8m/s/s, in order to explain the force of gravity.
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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #339 on: May 03, 2008, 04:20:40 PM »
But according to FE the earth must always be accelerating at a speed of 9.8m/s/s, in order to explain the force of gravity.
Right.

Are you agreeing with me then, in saying that the Earth cannot be flat?
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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #340 on: May 03, 2008, 04:22:25 PM »
No, I am agreeing with you that the FE must be constantly accelerating at 9.8m/s^2 to produce what we call 'gravity'.


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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #341 on: May 03, 2008, 04:26:20 PM »
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300,000 m/s.
Approximately, yes.
What a minute? Did you get something wrong here?
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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #342 on: May 03, 2008, 04:31:08 PM »
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300,000 m/s.
Approximately, yes.
What a minute? Did you get something wrong here?
Yea, like three decimal places.   :-[


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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #343 on: May 03, 2008, 04:32:50 PM »
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300,000 m/s.
Approximately, yes.
What a minute? Did you get something wrong here?
Yea, like three decimal places.   :-[
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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #344 on: May 03, 2008, 04:41:06 PM »
You make no sense, engineer.
Explain how I am "wrong" in stating that you couldn't accelerate for ever?
It is not possible to accelerate forever.
No, I am agreeing with you that the FE must be constantly accelerating at 9.8m/s^2 to produce what we call 'gravity'.

Do you believe in a flat earth?
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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #345 on: May 03, 2008, 04:48:43 PM »
Belief in something is independent of truth value. It either is or isn't. It doesn't matter how many people believe it.
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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #346 on: May 03, 2008, 04:48:44 PM »
Why am I not making any sense?  It would require infinite energy for something to accelerate forever. 


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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #347 on: May 03, 2008, 04:50:44 PM »
I'm not making any sort of argument, simply asking the engineer if he believes in a Flat Earth.
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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #348 on: May 03, 2008, 04:51:31 PM »
Why am I not making any sense?  It would require infinite energy for something to accelerate forever. 

Infinite energy isn't possible, right?  I'm assuming Alex knows this because it relates to classical physics, not Einsteinian which seems to go over his head.
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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #349 on: May 03, 2008, 05:01:53 PM »
The Earth would be accelerating now at 9.8 m/s2, but that doesn't mean it will be accelerating forever at 9.8 m/s2.  The energy supply could run out at any time and we'd all end up being screwed over with this 'life' thing.  The Earth could also, if it wanted to, accelerate forever without ever reaching the speed of light due to relativistic effects.  This doesn't mean the Earth will be accelerating forever, just that it could.

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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #350 on: May 03, 2008, 05:08:41 PM »
Why am I not making any sense?  It would require infinite energy for something to accelerate forever. 

Infinite energy isn't possible, right?  I'm assuming Alex knows this because it relates to classical physics, not Einsteinian which seems to go over his head.

You're the one with little grasp of relativity.

No, infinite energy is mathematically impossible.
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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #351 on: May 03, 2008, 05:11:21 PM »
No, infinite energy is mathematically impossible.
Right, so how can the FE need it?


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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #352 on: May 03, 2008, 05:13:02 PM »
Because constant acceleration requires infinite energy.
That's why.
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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #353 on: May 03, 2008, 05:13:14 PM »
You're the one with little grasp of relativity.
Oh, the irony!
Or, as it has been established that it is impossible to constantly accellerate at a rate of 9.8m/s/s, it is perfectly adequate to stick with stick with good old, managable, classical physics and apply the formula a=v(t+Δt)-v(t)/Δt. Which can be simplified to a=Δv/t. Presuming the it is only the speed of the flat earth which is changing, you can rearrange the formula so t=Δv/a, insert values
t=300,000/9.8
t=30612.24 seconds.


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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #354 on: May 03, 2008, 05:13:50 PM »
Because constant acceleration requires infinite energy.
That's why.
Why?

How long would it take before infinite energy was required?


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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #355 on: May 03, 2008, 05:15:33 PM »
You're the one with little grasp of relativity.
Oh, the irony!
Or, as it has been established that it is impossible to constantly accellerate at a rate of 9.8m/s/s, it is perfectly adequate to stick with stick with good old, managable, classical physics and apply the formula a=v(t+Δt)-v(t)/Δt. Which can be simplified to a=Δv/t. Presuming the it is only the speed of the flat earth which is changing, you can rearrange the formula so t=Δv/a, insert values
t=300,000/9.8
t=30612.24 seconds.

You realise that you're all talking bollocks?
I believe it was pne of you who asked me the time it would take for a body to reach the speed of light whilst accelerating uniformly at a rate of 9.8m/s/s

Would anyone care to correct me?

No.
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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #356 on: May 03, 2008, 05:18:41 PM »
I believe it was pne of you who asked me the time it would take for a body to reach the speed of light whilst accelerating uniformly at a rate of 9.8m/s/s

Would anyone care to correct me?
I would like to correct you.  It would take an infinite amount of time. 

So much for your understanding of relativity...


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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #357 on: May 03, 2008, 05:18:58 PM »
Because constant acceleration requires infinite energy.
That's why.
Why?

How long would it take before infinite energy was required?

Ok, wait. Can I help him out alittle? I know he's from Liverpool and all, but maybe he'll get it:

"An infinite amount of time, Herr Engineer?"
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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #358 on: May 03, 2008, 05:20:50 PM »
Because constant acceleration requires infinite energy.
That's why.
Why?

How long would it take before infinite energy was required?

When the speed of light was reached.

We've been going round and round for hours. You said yourself that this would require infinite energy.
You don't have a degree in Physics, do you?
You make no sense, engineer.
Explain how I am "wrong" in stating that you couldn't accelerate for ever?
It is not possible to accelerate forever.
No, I am agreeing with you that the FE must be constantly accelerating at 9.8m/s^2 to produce what we call 'gravity'.

Do you believe in a flat earth?

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Re: Fe gravity as it relates to the speed of light
« Reply #359 on: May 03, 2008, 05:22:16 PM »
No, infinite energy is mathematically impossible.
Right, so how can the FE need it?


Both wrong. It has already been shown (not all at once, but several independant proofs) that you could create antimatter+matter and gain energy, you just also gain anti-energy. So you're correct everything balances to 0, but not that infinite energy is impossible.