Melanin Theory

well..answer this question...

what happens when these ppl STOP taking Melanotan?
WHY dont NATURALLY darkskinned ppl have to take melanotan?


http://www.buy-melanotan2.com/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=6

well..answer this question...

what happens when these ppl STOP taking Melanotan?
WHY dont NATURALLY darkskinned ppl have to take melanotan?


http://www.buy-melanotan2.com/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=6

MSH causes you to produce more melanin for the period of time it is in your system. This is fact and no one is debating it.

What is your point?

did i say anything about MSH being melanin??

answer my questions

there is ALOT that you dont know..and yo wont understand till you understand the fundamentals

the ONLY reason you guys have melanocytes is because is your ORIGINAL ancestor gave them to you...the pathway as to which NORMAL melanogenesis doesnt work..has been disrupted...

another question..

HOW do you think someone who once had the ability to produce MASS amounts of melanin...could LOSE that ability?

well duh, hormones only last for hours at best. But you successfully proved the process is done in the skin.

Good job.

are you retarded...then WHY havent I lost my pigment

The human body recreates hormones according to the genetic code of the body's DNA.

Quote from: Raist on January 17, 2011, 11:15:20 AM

well duh, hormones only last for hours at best. But you successfully proved the process is done in the skin.

Good job.

are you retarded...then WHY havent I lost my pigment

Your body wants you to be vitamin-D deficient, while mine has adapted to keep me as healthy as possible.

soo...nature would choose vit D over skin cancer? i dont think so

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/news/fullstory_105542.html

soo...nature would choose vit D over skin cancer? i dont think so

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/news/fullstory_105542.html

We've been over this before, vitamin d definiency is more likely to cause someone to die before they have a chance to have children than skin cancer.  Most cases of skin cancer don't occur until at least a person is in their 30s, whereas vitamin d deficiency can cause health problems for children of all ages.

well if thats the case...then we should ALL be the picture of health...but we arent, and the VIT D theory is an illusion. the fact is..is that maybe we need to stop using the"one size fits all" mentality. white think jus because theyre deficient...we ALL are.

Almost 7 percent of the white patients were vitamin D-deficient, compared with more than 32 percent of the black participants. Whites with too little Vitamin D had twice the risk of dying from stroke as whites with adequate levels of the vitamin

The findings held up even after accounting for a host of socioeconomic and stroke risk factors, such as a history of diabetes, high blood pressure, cholesterol, body-mass index, smoking, physical activity and/or alcohol use.

Blacks could have a natural resistance to the negative effects of vitamin D deficiency, Michos said. This could explain why blacks have fewer bone fractures than whites, despite the higher incidence of low vitamin D levels, Michos added.

SOURCE: American Heart Association, Nov. 14, 2010, news release

stop using Vit D as an excuse

did i say anything about MSH being melanin??

answer my questions

there is ALOT that you dont know..and yo wont understand till you understand the fundamentals

the ONLY reason you guys have melanocytes is because is your ORIGINAL ancestor gave them to you...the pathway as to which NORMAL melanogenesis doesnt work..has been disrupted...

another question..

HOW do you think someone who once had the ability to produce MASS amounts of melanin...could LOSE that ability?

im still waiting

Because they lived in a climate that did not require large amounts of melanin?

did i say anything about MSH being melanin??

answer my questions

there is ALOT that you dont know..and yo wont understand till you understand the fundamentals

the ONLY reason you guys have melanocytes is because is your ORIGINAL ancestor gave them to you...the pathway as to which NORMAL melanogenesis doesnt work..has been disrupted...

another question.
HOW do you think someone who once had the ability to produce MASS amounts of melanin...could LOSE that ability?

what. do you mean how could someone who's ancestors had the ability, could not?
umm. by genetic mutation of exactly one base pair

another question..

HOW do you think someone who once had the ability to produce MASS amounts of melanin...could LOSE that ability?

Through adaptation. The farther people live from the equator, the fairer skin they are. This is no coincidence. More melanin in your skin means you will absorb less vitamin d. When you are at the equator and getting direct sunlight, this isn't an issue as there is loads of sunlight to be absorbed. However, the farther you move away, the less intense the sun is, meaning you need less melanin in your skin to get the appropriate amount of vitamin d.

Quote from: muur on January 17, 2011, 11:30:25 AM

another question..

HOW do you think someone who once had the ability to produce MASS amounts of melanin...could LOSE that ability?

Through adaptation. The farther people live from the equator, the fairer skin they are. This is no coincidence. More melanin in your skin means you will absorb less vitamin d. When you are at the equator and getting direct sunlight, this isn't an issue as there is loads of sunlight to be absorbed. However, the farther you move away, the less intense the sun is, meaning you need less melanin in your skin to get the appropriate amount of vitamin d.

This.
Somewhere along the line one person had a mutation that caused light skin, and they survived, and their children had a better chance of survival than the others

did i say anything about MSH being melanin??

answer my questions

there is ALOT that you dont know..and yo wont understand till you understand the fundamentals

the ONLY reason you guys have melanocytes is because is your ORIGINAL ancestor gave them to you...the pathway as to which NORMAL melanogenesis doesnt work..has been disrupted...

another question..

HOW do you think someone who once had the ability to produce MASS amounts of melanin...could LOSE that ability?

Without serious things happening, they couldn't.

They may stop making it, but they don't lose the ability to.

Without serious things happening, they couldn't.

They may stop making it, but they don't lose the ability to.

This is a good point.

Stop making melanin != losing the ability to make melanin.

dont think i forgot that noone has answered the original question

no the original woman didnt lose her pigment do to...the ability to absorb vit D this is the ONLY mute argument you have and its VERY weak...lol you guys are missing the point..

genetically..we are diffrent...you have no father..you are the missing link...lol

you are an incomplete hybrid grafted race who operates OUTSIDE of nature.

ur roots can be traced to the original black woman (mtDNA eve)...w/ nooo black father soo HOW did you get here

dont think i forgot that noone has answered the original question

no the original woman didnt lose her pigment do to...the ability to absorb vit D this is the ONLY mute argument you have and its VERY weak...lol you guys are missing the point..

genetically..we are diffrent...you have no father..you are the missing link...lol

you are an incomplete hybrid grafted race who operates OUTSIDE of nature.

ur roots can be traced to the original black woman (mtDNA eve)...w/ nooo black father soo HOW did you get here

You are a funny person.

Quote from: muur on January 17, 2011, 10:52:18 PM

dont think i forgot that noone has answered the original question

no the original woman didnt lose her pigment do to...the ability to absorb vit D this is the ONLY mute argument you have and its VERY weak...lol you guys are missing the point..

genetically..we are diffrent...you have no father..you are the missing link...lol

you are an incomplete hybrid grafted race who operates OUTSIDE of nature.

ur roots can be traced to the original black woman (mtDNA eve)...w/ nooo black father soo HOW did you get here

You are a funny person.

and im still laughin...
WHERE did u come from HOW the hell did u get here w/ no father?

and im still laughin...
WHERE did u come from HOW the hell did u get here w/ no father?

I don't know, but it probably had something to do with having less melanin than you or something.

Or maybe I'm Jesus, and it was immaculate conception.

dont think i forgot that noone has answered the original question

Because unlike you, the rest of us have lives and do things on the weekend: going places, getting drunk, working out, having sex, partying, etc. etc. etc.

no the original woman didnt lose her pigment do to...the ability to absorb vit D this is the ONLY mute argument you have and its VERY weak...lol you guys are missing the point..

...."absorb vit(sic) D" huh? WTF are you talking about?

genetically..we are diffrent...

Yes, by about .1%

you have no father..you are the missing link...lol

Are you on something? I have a father, because I have a Y Chromosome. Have you had sex ed at school yet?

you are an incomplete hybrid grafted race who operates OUTSIDE of nature.

Here we go with the insane racist ramblings again.

ur roots can be traced to the original black woman (mtDNA eve)...w/ nooo black father soo HOW did you get here

Well, by your logic, mitochondrial Eve would have had to reproduced asexually, via clonal division or something, which would make white people clones of black mitochondrial Eve. Can you see the terminal logic fail in what you are saying yet?

"Are you on something? I have a father, because I have a Y Chromosome. Have you had sex ed at school yet?"

...i can GUARANTEE you that you didnt get ur Y from the black male...meaning it didnt ORIGINATE in africa...so where did it come from???

"Are you on something? I have a father, because I have a Y Chromosome. Have you had sex ed at school yet?"

...i can GUARANTEE you that you didnt get ur Y from the black male...

That's rather crazy, you have no idea what ethnicity I am. Could I not be an African American male who is offended by your sick racism?

meaning it didnt ORIGINATE in africa...so where did it come from???

Genetics says Africa. 

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1469-1809.2001.6510043.x/abstract

Is it racist to think that it's funny how muur is the only person who claims to be of African descent, and the only person who doesn't know how to spell?

dont think i forgot that noone has answered the original question

no the original woman didnt lose her pigment do to...the ability to absorb vit D this is the ONLY mute argument you have and its VERY weak...lol you guys are missing the point..

genetically..we are diffrent...you have no father..you are the missing link...lol

you are an incomplete hybrid grafted race who operates OUTSIDE of nature.

ur roots can be traced to the original black woman (mtDNA eve)...w/ nooo black father soo HOW did you get here

Lol, you think we have no father because men can't pass their mitchondria on? Please learn basic biology.

I also am going to laugh at an african american insinuating that I have no father. Judging by the rates of single mother's raising kids in African Americans versus caucasians, you are much more likely to have no father.

Are you on something? I have a father, because I have a Y Chromosome. Have you had sex ed at school yet?

wait wut? Girls don't have a father?

noo doe doe...i say u have no father cos you dont @ least one who originates from the ORIGINAL black man...lol no what you have is a hybrid mutant graaaafted Y that came and settled..in africa.

im speaking about the scientific evidence that coretates w/ what my ancestors say about u ppl

you ppl are babies to this planet..discovering things that were ALREADY here to begin w/. Weve been here loong enough to remember how we got here AND how you got here

that MAINLY deals w/ the diffrences in HOW we absorb our energy...since you CANT get away from that one simple, VERY important environmental fact

and i CANT even get into this until you understand that if you have to
inject a synthetic substance (MSH)
to get what "black" ppl are able to obtain naturally...because the pathway as to which has been disrupted due to devolution and genetic manipulation..you are working on the OUTSIDE of nature..there is nothing evolution about pale skin..the only thing that is evolutionary about that is....aquiring the knowlege as to how to get it back...and its STILL incomplete cos melanogensis STARTS in the brain.


the CNS is the FIRST system the develop...moor specifically the pituitary along w/ the pineal...deal w/ HOW one is able to deal in NATURE...if that pathway is disrupted...ur screwed..evidenced by the fact that this chick has to bypass the brain to get jus a little bit of what she is suppose to have  and be able to do NATURALLY

Quote from: Pete on January 18, 2011, 12:02:14 AM

Are you on something? I have a father, because I have a Y Chromosome. Have you had sex ed at school yet?

wait wut? Girls don't have a father?

No, but since I am not a girl, I thought I would use that example. If I was a girl, I'd say I knew I had a father because I had two X chromosomes.

noo doe doe...i say u have no father cos you dont @ least one who originates from the ORIGINAL black man...lol no what you have is a hybrid mutant graaaafted Y that came and settled..in africa.

im speaking about the scientific evidence that coretates w/ what my ancestors say about u ppl

you ppl are babies to this planet..discovering things that were ALREADY here to begin w/. Weve been here loong enough to remember how we got here AND how you got here

that MAINLY deals w/ the diffrences in HOW we absorb our energy...since you CANT get away from that one simple, VERY important environmental fact

and i CANT even get into this until you understand that if you have to
inject a synthetic substance (MSH)
to get what "black" ppl are able to obtain naturally...because the pathway as to which has been disrupted due to devolution and genetic manipulation..you are working on the OUTSIDE of nature..there is nothing evolution about pale skin..the only thing that is evolutionary about that is....aquiring the knowlege as to how to get it back...and its STILL incomplete cos melanogensis STARTS in the brain.


the CNS is the FIRST system the develop...moor specifically the pituitary along w/ the pineal...deal w/ HOW one is able to deal in NATURE...if that pathway is disrupted...ur screwed..evidenced by the fact that this chick has to bypass the brain to get jus a little bit of what she is suppose to have  and be able to do NATURALLY

You forgot to link the abstracts for the peer-reviewed studies to back up that insane, misspelled, racist gibberish.

MSH is the hormone that originates in the BRAIN (pituitary) not the skin...MSH is what sets off melanogenesis in the skin and when the sun hits the skin provides an extra "TAN" in normal "black" ppl

if pathway has been DISRUPTED your skin burns, peels, reddens, you cant absorb the suns rays cos the color refracts and reflects the sun...you CANT use this form of energy AT ALL...even if you dont get skin cancer...the repair mechinism ALLOWS you to carry the mutations (that come when the sun hits you skin)...inyour system for long periods of time..and you pass these harmful mutations on to your offspring cos you LACK the genetic diversity (NUCLEAR) melanin to get rid of these mutations