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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #360 on: January 13, 2011, 12:05:32 PM »
Tap into DNA?
Knowing a protein sequence helps cure skin cancer?
Mitochondria responsible for how your dna works with the environment?

You skipped a few too many biology classes.
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #361 on: January 13, 2011, 12:05:59 PM »
What the fuck is this guy talking about?!  ???
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #362 on: January 13, 2011, 12:16:04 PM »
Melanin theories are strange to say the least. The reality is that lighter components of a salad usually pack less nutrients. They are more intelligent and efficient plants.
That is the reason animals prefer darker more nutrient greens-they are simply to dumb to convert those extra nutrients into any form of intellgence hence the easier, tastier, and  more beneficial meal.
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #363 on: January 13, 2011, 12:38:44 PM »
Quote from: Beorn on January 13, 2011, 12:05:32 PM
Tap into DNA?
Knowing a protein sequence helps cure skin cancer?
Mitochondria responsible for how your dna works with the environment?

You skipped a few too many biology classes.

well...you tell me..what IS the cure for skin cancer???

they CANT teach what i know in biology class...its illegal
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #364 on: January 13, 2011, 12:45:08 PM »
ooo ooo ooo..i know...MELANIN!!!

so now you have to PROVE to me..that what i have and can manufacture on MY OWN...isnt good enough for me so that you have to manufacture it, bottle it and smear it on your bodies and the bottle of space shuttles, for protection
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #365 on: January 13, 2011, 01:13:29 PM »
Quote from: muur on January 13, 2011, 12:45:08 PM
ooo ooo ooo..i know...MELANIN!!!

so now you have to PROVE to me..that what i have and can manufacture on MY OWN...isnt good enough for me so that you have to manufacture it, bottle it and smear it on your bodies and the bottle of space shuttles, for protection
What space shuttles?
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Quote from: James on August 26, 2011, 05:40:53 AM
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #366 on: January 13, 2011, 01:19:39 PM »
Quote from: Ichimaru Gin :] on January 13, 2011, 01:13:29 PM
Quote from: muur on January 13, 2011, 12:45:08 PM
ooo ooo ooo..i know...MELANIN!!!

so now you have to PROVE to me..that what i have and can manufacture on MY OWN...isnt good enough for me so that you have to manufacture it, bottle it and smear it on your bodies and the bottle of space shuttles, for protection
What space shuttles?

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Quote from: James on March 07, 2011, 09:22:09 AM
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #367 on: January 13, 2011, 01:58:22 PM »
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on January 13, 2011, 12:05:59 PM
What the fuck is this guy talking about?!  ???
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #368 on: January 13, 2011, 02:08:14 PM »
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #369 on: January 13, 2011, 02:17:38 PM »
This is one of the funniest threads I've seen in a while. They smear melanin on space shuttles, do they?

Quote from: Beorn on January 13, 2011, 02:08:14 PM
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on January 13, 2011, 01:58:22 PM
What the fuck is this guy talking about?!  ???

Black people > white people
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Pretty much.
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #370 on: January 13, 2011, 03:40:36 PM »
Quote from: Ichimaru Gin :] on January 13, 2011, 01:13:29 PM
Quote from: muur on January 13, 2011, 12:45:08 PM
ooo ooo ooo..i know...MELANIN!!!

so now you have to PROVE to me..that what i have and can manufacture on MY OWN...isnt good enough for me so that you have to manufacture it, bottle it and smear it on your bodies and the bottle of space shuttles, for protection
What space shuttles?

Muur feels that because the ceramic coated silicon tiles are black, they must be made of carbon, it's somewhere in this thread.

Also, apparently because sunscreen is white, because its active ingredient is Zinc Oxide, it must be made of melanin because it helps protect against UV rays.
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #371 on: January 13, 2011, 04:17:54 PM »
dude..thats not jus black paint...its SYNTHETIC MELANIN...CARBON..this is old news...and i really dont care what suncreen is made of...can you understand what its suppose to do?... oR even better...WHY a person would even get skin cancer??of course not...

like i said b4 the gov is offering 2.5 MIL to anyone that can offer info on how to wipe the fungus, bacteria, and viruses off of your mitochondrial dna

lol..the funny thing is..is that it CANT be done

hate to break it to yaw...but if your dna CANT be traced DIRECTLY to africa without going through the middle east..turkey, asia, euro, ect...then you ARE hybrid...devolved...created. the government knows this, not only is there an increase in skin cancer, but other cancers as well.
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #372 on: January 13, 2011, 04:25:56 PM »
Quote from: muur on January 13, 2011, 04:17:54 PM
dude..thats not jus black paint...its SYNTHETIC MELANIN...CARBON..this is old news...and i really dont care what suncreen is made of...can you understand what its suppose to do?... oR even better...WHY a person would even get skin cancer??of course not...

like i said b4 the gov is offering 2.5 MIL to anyone that can offer info on how to wipe the fungus, bacteria, and viruses off of your mitochondrial dna

lol..the funny thing is..is that it CANT be done

hate to break it to yaw...but if your dna CANT be traced DIRECTLY to africa without going through the middle east..turkey, asia, euro, ect...then you ARE hybrid...devolved...created. the government knows this, not only is there an increase in skin cancer, but other cancers as well.

Oh really?
http://caonline.amcancersoc.org/cgi/reprint/48/1/31.pdf
Starting on page 4 of that document there are some charts.
Source: American Cancer Society Journals
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Quote from: Saddam Hussein on February 27, 2009, 03:43:45 PM
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #373 on: January 13, 2011, 05:25:51 PM »
sorry...i did a quick search...could find the word "MELANIN"...or even "PIGMENT"..so i didnt bother to finish reading...you cant address cancer w/out address in that very important factor

PLUS...health issues that "african americans" face...are CURED by dietary changes...i said b4 that we deal w/ environmental stress TOTALLY diffrently than you.

melanin is a free radical scavanger...so how could it be the cause of cancer at the same time????

pease ask yourself these questions b4 you embarrass yourself again
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #374 on: January 13, 2011, 05:29:06 PM »
Where are your source for your assertions about melanin?
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #375 on: January 13, 2011, 05:41:51 PM »
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on January 13, 2011, 05:29:06 PM
Where are your source for your assertions about melanin?
all through this topic...and im gettin kind of sick of repeating the same thing over and over
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #376 on: January 13, 2011, 05:47:57 PM »
Quote from: muur on January 13, 2011, 05:41:51 PM
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on January 13, 2011, 05:29:06 PM
Where are your source for your assertions about melanin?
all through this topic...and im gettin kind of sick of repeating the same thing over and over

So you have no actual, medical sources? Good to know.
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #377 on: January 13, 2011, 06:00:18 PM »
How is a naturally occurring element synthetic?
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #378 on: January 13, 2011, 06:37:36 PM »
Quote from: muur on January 13, 2011, 05:25:51 PM
sorry...i did a quick search...could find the word "MELANIN"...or even "PIGMENT"..so i didnt bother to finish reading...you cant address cancer w/out address in that very important factor

PLUS...health issues that "african americans" face...are CURED by dietary changes...i said b4 that we deal w/ environmental stress TOTALLY diffrently than you.

melanin is a free radical scavanger...so how could it be the cause of cancer at the same time????

pease ask yourself these questions b4 you embarrass yourself again


You just said that "people who can't trace their ancestry back to africa without going through the middle east are more vulnerable to cancers." He proved this statement wrong. Perhaps you shouldn't have made it if it weren't true. Also, you have proven that this ancestry is less important than diet. A better diet therefore trumps the power of melanin by quite a bit.
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #379 on: January 13, 2011, 07:15:31 PM »
Quote from: muur on January 13, 2011, 05:25:51 PM
PLUS...health issues that "african americans" face...are CURED by dietary changes...i said b4 that we deal w/ environmental stress TOTALLY diffrently than you.

Really? African Americans can cure multiple sclerosis with dietary changes? Proof please.
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #380 on: January 13, 2011, 07:25:36 PM »
Quote from: muur on January 13, 2011, 04:17:54 PM
like i said b4 the gov is offering 2.5 MIL to anyone that can offer info on how to wipe the fungus, bacteria, and viruses off of your mitochondrial dna

lol..the funny thing is..is that it CANT be done


Has anyone explained the origins of mitochondria to Muur yet? Much less the fact that mitochondrial DNA is not covered in fungus, bacteria and viruses?
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #381 on: January 13, 2011, 07:34:42 PM »
Bellows, C. F., Belafsky, P., Fortgang, I. S., & Beech, D. J. (2001). Melanoma in African-Americans: trends in biological behavior and clinical characteristics over two decades. Journal of Surgical Oncology, 78(1), 10-16.

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Overall survival time for African-Americans with cutaneous melanoma is significantly shorter than for caucasians with this disease. This trend may be attributable to the fact that African-Americans present with advanced disease. An increased level of awareness among both patients and health-care providers is necessary to identify African-Americans with melanoma at earlier stages of disease and to improve survival.



http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jso.1116/abstract

Isn't it great that Muur is wrong and I've demonstrated for it how to actually cite science?
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #382 on: January 13, 2011, 08:19:45 PM »
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on January 13, 2011, 05:47:57 PM
Quote from: muur on January 13, 2011, 05:41:51 PM
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on January 13, 2011, 05:29:06 PM
Where are your source for your assertions about melanin?
all through this topic...and im gettin kind of sick of repeating the same thing over and over

So you have no actual, medical sources? Good to know.
they CANT observe it "in vivo" (while its in my skin)...theyve spent millions trying...the closest thing they can get, is to extract it from fish, fungus, or the human eye and study it "in vitro" in a controlled environment...even then..they STILL cant find the exact molecular structure of melanin...because there isnt one..it changes based on its environment and this process STARTS in the brain (pitituary) not the skin..if it were that simple..they could jus extract it from MY skin and put it in someone elses...right???..then there WOULD be a cure
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #383 on: January 13, 2011, 08:25:14 PM »
Quote from: Pete on January 13, 2011, 07:34:42 PM
Bellows, C. F., Belafsky, P., Fortgang, I. S., & Beech, D. J. (2001). Melanoma in African-Americans: trends in biological behavior and clinical characteristics over two decades. Journal of Surgical Oncology, 78(1), 10-16.

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Overall survival time for African-Americans with cutaneous melanoma is significantly shorter than for caucasians with this disease. This trend may be attributable to the fact that African-Americans present with advanced disease. An increased level of awareness among both patients and health-care providers is necessary to identify African-Americans with melanoma at earlier stages of disease and to improve survival.



http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jso.1116/abstract

Isn't it great that Muur is wrong and I've demonstrated for it how to actually cite science?

FAIL...no reference to melanin AT ALL..iand i already told you that whenever the body senses disease...infection...cancer...its going to try to get rid of it quickly, even if ppl have to die... living w/ longer w/ cancer is BAD
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #384 on: January 13, 2011, 08:27:44 PM »
Quote from: Pete on January 13, 2011, 07:25:36 PM
Quote from: muur on January 13, 2011, 04:17:54 PM
like i said b4 the gov is offering 2.5 MIL to anyone that can offer info on how to wipe the fungus, bacteria, and viruses off of your mitochondrial dna

lol..the funny thing is..is that it CANT be done


Has anyone explained the origins of mitochondria to Muur yet? Much less the fact that mitochondrial DNA is not covered in fungus, bacteria and viruses?

http://grants.nih.gov/grants/guide/rfa-files/RFA-ES-11-007.html
not according to your government
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #385 on: January 13, 2011, 08:28:34 PM »
Quote from: muur on January 13, 2011, 08:19:45 PM

they CANT observe it "in vivo" (while its in my skin)...theyve spent millions trying...the closest thing they can get, is to extract it from fish, fungus, or the human eye and study it "in vitro" in a controlled environment...

God, can you not even use Google?

Quote from: muur on January 13, 2011, 08:19:45 PM
even then..they STILL cant find the exact molecular structure of melanin...because there isnt one..it changes based on its environment

No, it does not, it is a compound created by a cellular process that is regulated by DNA.

Quote from: muur on January 13, 2011, 08:19:45 PM
and this process STARTS in the brain (pitituary) not the skin..

Wrong again.

Quote from: muur on January 13, 2011, 08:19:45 PM
if it were that simple..they could jus extract it from MY skin and put it in someone elses...right???..then there WOULD be a cure

No, it wouldn't.

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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #386 on: January 13, 2011, 08:30:10 PM »
Quote from: muur on January 13, 2011, 08:25:14 PM
Quote from: Pete on January 13, 2011, 07:34:42 PM
Bellows, C. F., Belafsky, P., Fortgang, I. S., & Beech, D. J. (2001). Melanoma in African-Americans: trends in biological behavior and clinical characteristics over two decades. Journal of Surgical Oncology, 78(1), 10-16.

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Overall survival time for African-Americans with cutaneous melanoma is significantly shorter than for caucasians with this disease. This trend may be attributable to the fact that African-Americans present with advanced disease. An increased level of awareness among both patients and health-care providers is necessary to identify African-Americans with melanoma at earlier stages of disease and to improve survival.



http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jso.1116/abstract

Isn't it great that Muur is wrong and I've demonstrated for it how to actually cite science?

FAIL...no reference to melanin AT ALL..

Because your superstitious obsession aside, melanin isn't magical.

Quote from: muur on January 13, 2011, 08:25:14 PM
iand i already told you that whenever the body senses disease...infection...cancer...its going to try to get rid of it quickly, even if ppl have to die... living w/ longer w/ cancer is BAD

So you admit that black people are biologically inferior? That's a turnaround.
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #387 on: January 13, 2011, 08:33:15 PM »
Quote from: muur on January 13, 2011, 08:27:44 PM
Quote from: Pete on January 13, 2011, 07:25:36 PM
Quote from: muur on January 13, 2011, 04:17:54 PM
like i said b4 the gov is offering 2.5 MIL to anyone that can offer info on how to wipe the fungus, bacteria, and viruses off of your mitochondrial dna

lol..the funny thing is..is that it CANT be done


Has anyone explained the origins of mitochondria to Muur yet? Much less the fact that mitochondrial DNA is not covered in fungus, bacteria and viruses?

http://grants.nih.gov/grants/guide/rfa-files/RFA-ES-11-007.html
not according to your government

Good God, what the hell? That's a grant to study biomarkers for use in studying cellular, specifically mitochondrial functioning. That isn't fungus, bacteria or viruses.
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #388 on: January 13, 2011, 08:47:02 PM »
woooow...lol..how childish..is that the best u can do..lol

i already told you..."african american" is a manmade term...there is nooo such thing...we come in many hues

..and no...you dont want to live LONGER w/ cancer...how the hell is a group of ppl suppose eventually get rid of the cancer???

God, can you not even use Google?...didnt you already use that one


No, it does not, it is a compound created by a cellular process that is regulated by DNA....i jus said they DONT KNOW the exact molecular structure

..and yes, melanogenesis STARTS IN THE PITITUARY

jus for that smarty pants...your tell me where does melanogenesis start??
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Re: Melanin Theory
« Reply #389 on: January 13, 2011, 08:50:21 PM »
Identification of Biomarkers for Early Detection of Environmentally-Induced Mitochondrial Dysfunction (R01)

Mitochondrial dysfunction is associated with numerous chronic diseases including Type II diabetes, metabolic syndrome, neurodegenerative diseases, blindness, cardiovascular disease, and cancer. Although it is known that mitochondria are a target for numerous environmental compounds, including pesticides, bacterial and fungal toxins, and multiple industrial chemicals, there are only a few well-studied links between disease and mitochondrial dysfunction resulting from environmental exposures. Research in this area is hampered by a lack of tools to measure early markers of mitochondrial dysfunction in human studies, particularly with respect to ambient environmental exposures
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