The Legend of Zelda: Windwaker --Flat earth video game?

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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Windwaker --Flat earth video game?
« Reply #240 on: June 30, 2010, 10:36:24 AM »
Ichi still denying this the Zelda stuff, even though I proved him wrong in another thread is yet another reason why I believe he's a troll.
When you actually prove something, then get in touch.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Windwaker --Flat earth video game?
« Reply #241 on: June 30, 2010, 10:45:27 AM »
I'm sorry but I keep forgetting what a fantasy video game is supposed to prove about the shape of the earth.  Would someone remind me, please?
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Windwaker --Flat earth video game?
« Reply #242 on: June 30, 2010, 10:48:15 AM »
I'm sorry but I keep forgetting what a fantasy video game is supposed to prove about the shape of the earth.  Would someone remind me, please?
Sure, it proves that the REers are so dominating the argument in reality that the FEers are seeking refuge in fantasy.  :)
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« Reply #243 on: June 30, 2010, 10:48:29 AM »
I'm sorry but I keep forgetting what a fantasy video game is supposed to prove about the shape of the earth.  Would someone remind me, please?
The game has nothing to do with proof/disproof of the earth's shape. Please read the entire thread.
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« Reply #244 on: June 30, 2010, 11:29:21 AM »
The game has nothing to do with proof/disproof of the earth's shape.

Then you guys have been arguing for 13 pages for no reason whatsoever?  OK, carry on.

Please read the entire thread.

No thanks, you just told me everything that I need to know about this thread.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Windwaker --Flat earth video game?
« Reply #245 on: June 30, 2010, 11:35:48 AM »
I'm sorry but I keep forgetting what a fantasy video game is supposed to prove about the shape of the earth.  Would someone remind me, please?
The game has nothing to do with proof/disproof of the earth's shape. Please read the entire thread.

It's hard to prove anything to you when you insist that "earth" is the same as "Earth". It is however straight out denial from you when I show you a picture depicting a RE in the Zelda universe.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Windwaker --Flat earth video game?
« Reply #246 on: June 30, 2010, 12:20:20 PM »
The game has nothing to do with proof/disproof of the earth's shape.

Then you guys have been arguing for 13 pages for no reason whatsoever?  OK, carry on.

Please read the entire thread.

No thanks, you just told me everything that I need to know about this thread.

At least read the OP then.

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« Reply #247 on: June 30, 2010, 12:47:31 PM »
At least read the OP then.

If this game has nothing to do with the shape of the earth, then why should I (or anyone else) care?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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« Reply #248 on: June 30, 2010, 12:54:19 PM »
At least read the OP then.

If this game has nothing to do with the shape of the earth, then why should I (or anyone else) care?

Because I'll promise to make you a markjo Trading card if you do?  :D

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« Reply #249 on: June 30, 2010, 12:57:33 PM »
At least read the OP then.

If this game has nothing to do with the shape of the earth, then why should I (or anyone else) care?
It shows people out there DO believe and insert a small amount of FEB ideas into pop culture. FET is around us more than one would initially realize.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Windwaker --Flat earth video game?
« Reply #250 on: June 30, 2010, 02:19:12 PM »
At least read the OP then.

If this game has nothing to do with the shape of the earth, then why should I (or anyone else) care?
It shows people out there DO believe and insert a small amount of FEB ideas into pop culture. FET is around us more than one would initially realize.

It does nothing of the sort. It shows that programming a flat gaming area is easier than accounting for curvature.
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« Reply #251 on: June 30, 2010, 03:12:54 PM »
At least read the OP then.

If this game has nothing to do with the shape of the earth, then why should I (or anyone else) care?
It shows people out there DO believe and insert a small amount of FEB ideas into pop culture. FET is around us more than one would initially realize.

It does nothing of the sort. It shows that programming a flat gaming area is easier than accounting for curvature.
It would be much easier to program the Windwaker without the perspective effect, but that didn't stop them  ::)
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« Reply #252 on: June 30, 2010, 03:36:18 PM »
At least read the OP then.

If this game has nothing to do with the shape of the earth, then why should I (or anyone else) care?
It shows people out there DO believe and insert a small amount of FEB ideas into pop culture. FET is around us more than one would initially realize.

It does nothing of the sort. It shows that programming a flat gaming area is easier than accounting for curvature.
It would be much easier to program the Windwaker without the perspective effect, but that didn't stop them  ::)
Thatís a poor argument. They could have added all the details of Danielís flat, but they didnít do that. Whatís in the game was a business decision, a cost benefit analysis. How many more units would they have sold by adding the subtle RE correction to the simulation? Iíd say none.
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Windwaker --Flat earth video game?
« Reply #253 on: June 30, 2010, 04:13:06 PM »
At least read the OP then.

If this game has nothing to do with the shape of the earth, then why should I (or anyone else) care?
It shows people out there DO believe and insert a small amount of FEB ideas into pop culture. FET is around us more than one would initially realize.
No it proves that you look too much into things.

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« Reply #254 on: June 30, 2010, 04:25:28 PM »
Just so we're clear, Are you claiming that the designers of the game (and the others you mentioned in the thread) purposefully designed it specifically so that the world would appear flat?
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« Reply #255 on: June 30, 2010, 05:40:09 PM »
Just so we're clear, Are you claiming that the designers of the game (and the others you mentioned in the thread) purposefully designed it specifically so that the world would appear flat?
What he's trying to say is that the fact that some video game worlds appear flat is proof that some video game designers believe in a flat Earth. It's a pretty outlandish and stupid claim, but that's what he's saying.

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« Reply #256 on: June 30, 2010, 06:49:49 PM »
At least read the OP then.

If this game has nothing to do with the shape of the earth, then why should I (or anyone else) care?
It shows people out there DO believe and insert a small amount of FEB ideas into pop culture. FET is around us more than one would initially realize.

It does nothing of the sort. It shows that programming a flat gaming area is easier than accounting for curvature.
It would be much easier to program the Windwaker without the perspective effect, but that didn't stop them  ::)
Thatís a poor argument. They could have added all the details of Danielís flat, but they didnít do that. Whatís in the game was a business decision, a cost benefit analysis. How many more units would they have sold by adding the subtle RE correction to the simulation? Iíd say none.

Actually fog effect loading would be bounds easier to program and much cheaper than including the perspective effect
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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Windwaker --Flat earth video game?
« Reply #257 on: June 30, 2010, 06:55:11 PM »
Is it safe to say that Will Wright, EA and Maxis are all safe from the crazy FET?

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Re: The Legend of Zelda: Windwaker --Flat earth video game?
« Reply #258 on: June 30, 2010, 06:55:30 PM »
Did anyone in the 13 pages mention super Mario Galaxy I & II?  They show a round planet universe, among other things.  
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« Reply #259 on: June 30, 2010, 06:56:54 PM »
Did anyone in the 13 pages mention super Mario Galaxy I & II?  They show a round planet universe, among other things.  
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« Reply #260 on: June 30, 2010, 06:59:20 PM »
Did anyone in the 13 pages mention super Mario Galaxy I & II?  They show a round planet universe, among other things. 
Yes, and Spore too.

Did anyone ever claim that there is a counter-conspiracy group programming every single video game?

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« Reply #261 on: June 30, 2010, 07:04:12 PM »
Did anyone in the 13 pages mention super Mario Galaxy I & II?  They show a round planet universe, among other things. 
Yes, and Spore too.

Did anyone ever claim that there is a counter-conspiracy group programming every single video game?

That would be a silly thing to suggest.  lol
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« Reply #262 on: June 30, 2010, 07:05:14 PM »
Did anyone in the 13 pages mention super Mario Galaxy I & II?  They show a round planet universe, among other things. 
Yes, and Spore too.

Did anyone ever claim that there is a counter-conspiracy group programming every single video game?

That would be a silly thing to suggest.  lol

My point. Nobody made such a claim so it is irrelevant to point out games that depict a RE.

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« Reply #263 on: June 30, 2010, 07:08:39 PM »
So games that depict a FE are proof that there are video game designers that believe in FE, but video games the depict a RE prove nothing.

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« Reply #264 on: June 30, 2010, 07:09:49 PM »
So games that depict a FE are proof that there are video game designers that believe in FE, but video games the depict a RE prove nothing.
??? Who's saying anything about RE games?
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« Reply #265 on: June 30, 2010, 07:11:10 PM »
So games that depict a FE are proof that there are video game designers that believe in FE, but video games the depict a RE prove nothing.
??? Who's saying anything about RE games?
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« Reply #266 on: June 30, 2010, 08:01:28 PM »
Actually fog effect loading would be bounds easier to program and much cheaper than including the perspective effect

???  Perspective is a fundamental element that would need to be built into any 3d rendering engine ever made.  Fog is nice, but is not necessary and is computationally quite expensive (which is why it's usually off loaded to the GPU).
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« Reply #267 on: June 30, 2010, 08:03:25 PM »
Actually fog effect loading would be bounds easier to program and much cheaper than including the perspective effect
Fog is nice, but is not necessary and is computationally quite expensive (which is why it's usually off loaded to the GPU).
Restoring abilities through the telescope is much more wasteful than any fading scheme or fog effect (even though latter two are not present in the game).
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« Reply #268 on: June 30, 2010, 08:07:57 PM »
Actually fog effect loading would be bounds easier to program and much cheaper than including the perspective effect
Fog is nice, but is not necessary and is computationally quite expensive (which is why it's usually off loaded to the GPU).
Have you read the OP  ???
Yes, and I don't see any analysis of the programming complexity or computational requirements of fog effects vs. perspective effects.
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« Reply #269 on: June 30, 2010, 08:39:00 PM »
Just so we're clear, Are you claiming that the designers of the game (and the others you mentioned in the thread) purposefully designed it specifically so that the world would appear flat?
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