How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates

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markjo

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Flaming, trolling, ad hominem, logical fallacies, Godwin violations—it's all the stuff of too many online discussions. In Part 1 of this four-part series, logician and Cornell professor Walker White shows you how to spot the difference between productive and unproductive debates, using the tools of informal logic.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/guides/2010/11/getting-to-qed-part-1.ars
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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2010, 08:11:58 PM »
I hope other REers will follow your lead and take note of this markjo.  If enough do it might level the playing field and make the debate more interesting.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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vhu9644

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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2010, 08:15:35 PM »
level, the playing field, i think the playing field is already leveled, with both sides with bad and good debaters, and trolls scattered around
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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2010, 08:20:26 PM »
I hope other REers will follow your lead and take note of this markjo.  If enough do it might level the playing field and make the debate more interesting.

I think it's the nature of this site and the idea it represents.

Granted, I haven't been around all that long.

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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2010, 08:35:56 PM »
I hope other REers will follow your lead and take note of this markjo.  If enough do it might level the playing field and make the debate more interesting.
Cause TFES has such great minds like EG, BF, Tom and Thork?

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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2010, 08:42:11 PM »
I hope other REers will follow your lead and take note of this markjo.  If enough do it might level the playing field and make the debate more interesting.
Cause TFES has such great minds like EG, BF, Tom and Thork?

i have to admit, they have good thinking skills.  those guys are actually really bright, and it is fun debating with them
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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2010, 08:43:37 PM »
I hope other REers will follow your lead and take note of this markjo.  If enough do it might level the playing field and make the debate more interesting.
Cause TFES has such great minds like EG, BF, Tom and Thork?

i have to admit, they have good thinking skills.  those guys are actually really bright, and it is fun debating with them
EG will always twists your questions and points around to a point that makes no sense, BF shoots around insults which have nothing to do with the arguement, Tom is just delusional, and Thork is just....Thork.

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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2010, 10:16:53 PM »
I hope other REers will follow your lead and take note of this markjo.  If enough do it might level the playing field and make the debate more interesting.
Cause TFES has such great minds like EG, BF, Tom and Thork?

i have to admit, they have good thinking skills.  those guys are actually really bright, and it is fun debating with them
EG will always twists your questions and points around to a point that makes no sense, BF shoots around insults which have nothing to do with the arguement, Tom is just delusional, and Thork is just....Thork.

i get humor from that, and i do think they have pointed out good points before
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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2010, 11:28:35 PM »
i have to admit, they have good thinking skills.  those guys are actually really bright, and it is fun debating with them

 :) Thank you!

Also, don't mind sillyrob, he has a history of flaming people.

As I recall, he even got banned for it once.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2010, 11:30:11 PM by EnglshGentleman »

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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2010, 11:30:45 PM »
i have to admit, they have good thinking skills.  those guys are actually really bright, and it is fun debating with them

 :) Thank you!

Also, don't mind sillyrob, he has a history of flaming people.

As I recall, he even got banned for it once.

np, debate partners are not my advasaries
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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2010, 11:36:50 PM »
np, debate partners are not my advasaries

I wish more RE'ers were like you.  :-\

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vhu9644

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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2010, 11:40:58 PM »
np, debate partners are not my advasaries

I wish more RE'ers were like you.  :-\

thx, but im not that old, so i dont have much stress on me yet :D
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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2010, 03:27:21 PM »
np, debate partners are not my advasaries

I wish more RE'ers were like you.  :-\

thx, but im not that old, so i dont have much stress on me yet :D

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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2010, 04:41:14 PM »
Who gets to dictate what "logical fallicies"?

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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2010, 05:51:03 PM »
Who gets to dictate what "logical fallicies"?

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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2010, 06:12:49 PM »
np, debate partners are not my advasaries

I wish more RE'ers were like you.  :-\

Were just being buff internet tuff guys. We, the RE'ers, rule this domain.

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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2010, 06:15:05 PM »
np, debate partners are not my advasaries

I wish more RE'ers were like you.  :-\

thx, but im not that old, so i dont have much stress on me yet :D

Have you had the delight to meet Parsifal yet? Believe me, You will become like us.... Join the Rage side.

I object. Thork and I met Parsifal and we aren't on the Rage side.

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vhu9644

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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2010, 02:44:45 AM »
np, debate partners are not my advasaries

I wish more RE'ers were like you.  :-\

thx, but im not that old, so i dont have much stress on me yet :D

Have you had the delight to meet Parsifal yet? Believe me, You will become like us.... Join the Rage side.

only 2 people that have vexed me are parsec and parsifal
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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2010, 06:06:46 AM »
np, debate partners are not my advasaries

I wish more RE'ers were like you.  :-\

thx, but im not that old, so i dont have much stress on me yet :D

Have you had the delight to meet Parsifal yet? Believe me, You will become like us.... Join the Rage side.

only 2 people person that hasve vexed me are parsec and parsifal
Fixed.
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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2010, 11:21:50 AM »
np, debate partners are not my advasaries

I wish more RE'ers were like you.  :-\

thx, but im not that old, so i dont have much stress on me yet :D

Have you had the delight to meet Parsifal yet? Believe me, You will become like us.... Join the Rage side.

The only 2 people person that hasve vexed me areis parsec/andParsifal.
Fixed.
Fixed.

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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2010, 05:30:17 PM »
np, debate partners are not my advasaries

I wish more RE'ers were like you.  :-\

thx, but im not that old, so i dont have much stress on me yet :D

Have you had the delight to meet Parsifal yet? Believe me, You will become like us.... Join the Rage side.

The only 2 people person robot that hasve vexed me areis parsec/andParsifal.
Fixed.
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Re: How to tell the difference between productive and unproductive debates
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2010, 11:25:13 AM »
np, debate partners are not my advasaries

I wish more RE'ers were like you.  :-\

thx, but im not that old, so i dont have much stress on me yet :D

Have you had the delight to meet Parsifal yet? Believe me, You will become like us.... Join the Rage side.

The only 2 peop[/glow]le person[/s][/color] robot tha[/shadow]t ha[/i]sve vexed me a[/glow]re[/s]is parsec/andPa[/size]rsifal.
Fixed.
Fixed.
Fixed.

Aw, I broke it.
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