Falling Objects

To Earth, obviously?

Relative to Earth, there are about as many aeroplanes moving up as there are moving down, on average.

Quote from: With Honor on June 30, 2009, 12:26:22 PM

To Earth, obviously?

Relative to Earth, there are about as many aeroplanes moving up as there are moving down, on average.

According to what? I don't see any pictures supporting that claim, LOL.

According to what? I don't see any pictures supporting that claim, LOL.

Common sense, dipshit.

so what is a plane thats going towards Earth actually staying still?

if so explain that weird stomach feeling (scientific I know :A)

so what is a plane thats going towards Earth actually staying still?

if so explain that weird stomach feeling (scientific I know :A)

You know, normally you'd be right in posing that question. HOWEVER, due to the effects of Magic and God, shit happens that wouldn't normally happen in a round Earth. The Earth is flat simply because it is. Magic + God account for how this is possible.

so what is a plane thats going towards Earth actually staying still?

if so explain that weird stomach feeling (scientific I know :A)

That "weird stomach feeling" is weightlessness. It feels weird because you don't expect to suddenly feel weightless for no apparent reason; it's not natural.

Quote from: simpson3883 on June 30, 2009, 12:44:24 PM

so what is a plane thats going towards Earth actually staying still?

if so explain that weird stomach feeling (scientific I know :A)

That "weird stomach feeling" is weightlessness. It feels weird because you don't expect to suddenly feel weightless for no apparent reason; it's not natural.

It's actually a physical phenomenon; it's not merely a mental feeling of discomfort. It results from a physical organ displacement typically below the cardiothoracic region--more specifically, below the diaphragm where organs have more freedom, and thus, behave in a more entropic fashion.

Bio/pathophysiology explains physical abnormalities, not abstract ideas, LOL.

It's actually a physical phenomenon; it's not merely a mental feeling of discomfort. It results from a physical organ displacement typically below the cardiothoracic region--more specifically, below the diaphragm where organs have more freedom, and thus, behave in a more entropic fashion.

Congratulations. Now, do you have anything to say which discredits my previous response?

Imagine FE gravitation this way:

There is a channel of fast flowing water, accelerating at 9.8m/s^2.

A flat plate is put into the water so it acts like a dam but the water can rush by at the side of it.

You would notice that an 'air pocket' or cavity forms behind the plate where the water goes by too fast to fill.

The plate is pushed along with the water



With me so far? the white represents the cavity where there is no water.

Right, now imagine that the black 'dot' is the flat earth and the water is the Dark Energy pushing against it. The white patch represents the air and where we spend most of our time. Anything in that white area will eventually be hit by the earth accelerating up to meet it. The stars and planets are many miles above the white cavity, also being pushed by the energy.

Quote from: With Honor on June 30, 2009, 12:57:22 PM

It's actually a physical phenomenon; it's not merely a mental feeling of discomfort. It results from a physical organ displacement typically below the cardiothoracic region--more specifically, below the diaphragm where organs have more freedom, and thus, behave in a more entropic fashion.

Congratulations. Now, do you have anything to say which discredits my previous response?

Sure.

"The weird feeling is not due to weightlessness. It's due to organ displacement."

Kthx. Bai.

Sure.

"The weird feeling is not due to weightlessness. It's due to organ displacement."

Kthx. Bai.

And what causes the organ displacement?

Imagine FE gravitation this way:

There is a channel of fast flowing water, accelerating at 9.8m/s^2.

A flat plate is put into the water so it acts like a dam but the water can rush by at the side of it.

You would notice that an 'air pocket' or cavity forms behind the plate where the water goes by too fast to fill.

The plate is pushed along with the water



With me so far? the white represents the cavity where there is no water.

Right, now imagine that the black 'dot' is the flat earth and the water is the Dark Energy pushing against it. The white patch represents the air and where we spend most of our time. Anything in that white area will eventually be hit by the earth accelerating up to meet it. The stars and planets are many miles above the white cavity, also being pushed by the energy.

Except, that isn't how it works.  Since nature abhors a vacuum, that "empty cavity" is quickly filled in a turbulent manner.

Quote from: With Honor on June 30, 2009, 01:10:50 PM

Sure.

"The weird feeling is not due to weightlessness. It's due to organ displacement."

Kthx. Bai.

And what causes the organ displacement?

Well gee, given the fact gravity doesn't exist in this flat-Earth world, I don't know.

I was kinda hoping you'd realize the paradox we've run into. Flat Earth is simply, retarded. This is just yet another reason why.

What gives rise to weight? Oh. Right.

Whoops?

Well gee, given the fact gravity doesn't exist in this flat-Earth world, I don't know.

I was kinda hoping you'd realize the paradox we've run into. Flat Earth is simply, retarded. This is just yet another reason why.

What gives rise to weight? Oh. Right.

Whoops?

So you're telling me you don't feel pulled back when in an accelerating car?

Nope, I'm telling you the nauseating feeling felt on an airplane is a direct result of organ displacement.



Where did I post anything about acceleration and cars? LOL?

Quote from: CACTUSJACKmankin on June 30, 2009, 05:12:36 AM

The moon is not the earth but the same laws of physics (i know, silly term to be using around here) apply to both. the moon is a satellite of the earth and its gravity is sufficient to make it collapse upon itself and render it a spheroid.

The Moon is a satellite of the Earth in RET, yes. Not in FET.

Quote from: CACTUSJACKmankin on June 30, 2009, 05:12:36 AM

Circular cross-section? i have a coin with me. let's try to orient it to the approximate perspective that we have of the moon. In order to not see the edges i need to tilt it slightly. so it's like | or slightly / and it's going upwards ^? how does anything keep from sliding off its surface? Try reconciling that with the video footage.

Could you repost that in English?

How is the moon oriented respective to the earth?
Wouldnt the moon accelerate slower than the earth? shouldnt we see it falling? oh yeah.. that less mass less gravity men on the moon stuff is all science and physics, can't have any of that.

Nope, I'm telling you the nauseating feeling felt on an airplane is a direct result of organ displacement.

And yet you fail to properly explain what causes the organ displacement.

Where did I post anything about acceleration and cars? LOL?

An accelerating Earth would feel exactly the same to you as an accelerating car, just in a different direction.

How is the moon oriented respective to the earth?

Above it.

Wouldnt the moon accelerate slower than the earth? shouldnt we see it falling? oh yeah.. that less mass less gravity men on the moon stuff is all science and physics, can't have any of that.

Less mass on the moon? Sorry sir, we physicists don't like to violate the law of conservation of mass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercavitation

the principle is the same, remember that the air isn't a vacuum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercavitation

the principle is the same, remember that the air isn't a vacuum

Please demonstrate how that applies to the UA and the FE.  I'm interested in seeing how energy can flow around an object.

Quote from: CACTUSJACKmankin on July 01, 2009, 05:42:41 AM

How is the moon oriented respective to the earth?

Above it.

90 degrees? 45? 180?

Wouldnt the moon accelerate slower than the earth? shouldnt we see it falling? oh yeah.. that less mass less gravity men on the moon stuff is all science and physics, can't have any of that.

Less mass on the moon? Sorry sir, we physicists don't like to violate the law of conservation of mass.
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ummm how does the moon having less mass violate the conservation of mass? there's no requirement that the moon be made out of the same amount of stuff as the earth. if the moon had the same mass as the earth it would look a LOT bigger. We arent wrong about its distance from earth since we've put people on there and they left laser reflectors on it.

So in summation, the moon 1/6th has less mass then the earth and thus it has 1/6th less gravity and thus video footage of men on the moon hopping and dropping hammers and feathers in the absence of an atmosphere are all correct. Science Wins!!!

90 degrees? 45? 180?

It is my view that the Moon is spherical. Spherical objects do not have a meaningful orientation.

ummm how does the moon having less mass violate the conservation of mass? there's no requirement that the moon be made out of the same amount of stuff as the earth. if the moon had the same mass as the earth it would look a LOT bigger. We arent wrong about its distance from earth since we've put people on there and they left laser reflectors on it.

So in summation, the moon 1/6th has less mass then the earth and thus it has 1/6th less gravity and thus video footage of men on the moon hopping and dropping hammers and feathers in the absence of an atmosphere are all correct. Science Wins!!!

First of all, I thought you meant people had less mass when they went to the moon. Please be clearer in your posts than simply saying things like "that less mass less gravity on the moon".

Second of all, please stop assuming that everything you have been taught is correct. You are debating with people who believe that the Moon landings were faked; you can't simply assume that they are real.

Quote from: CACTUSJACKmankin on July 01, 2009, 03:09:11 PM

90 degrees? 45? 180?

It is my view that the Moon is spherical. Spherical objects do not have a meaningful orientation.

if the moon is spherical, why isnt the earth? the same laws of physics apply to both.

ummm how does the moon having less mass violate the conservation of mass? there's no requirement that the moon be made out of the same amount of stuff as the earth. if the moon had the same mass as the earth it would look a LOT bigger. We arent wrong about its distance from earth since we've put people on there and they left laser reflectors on it.

So in summation, the moon 1/6th has less mass then the earth and thus it has 1/6th less gravity and thus video footage of men on the moon hopping and dropping hammers and feathers in the absence of an atmosphere are all correct. Science Wins!!!

First of all, I thought you meant people had less mass when they went to the moon. Please be clearer in your posts than simply saying things like "that less mass less gravity on the moon".

Second of all, please stop assuming that everything you have been taught is correct. You are debating with people who believe that the Moon landings were faked; you can't simply assume that they are real.

I dont assume that that moon landings were real: aside from the footage which is consistent with the known physics of the moon, we have moon rocks and we left behind laser reflectors and any country could have tracked Apollo 11 (including the Soviets) and revealed it to be a fake if it were so.

if the moon is spherical, why isnt the earth? the same laws of physics apply to both.

If a marble is spherical, why isn't a coin? The same laws of physics apply to both.

I dont assume that that moon landings were real: aside from the footage which is consistent with the known physics of the moon, we have moon rocks and we left behind laser reflectors and any country could have tracked Apollo 11 (including the Soviets) and revealed it to be a fake if it were so.

Please read the FAQ.

Quote from: CACTUSJACKmankin on July 02, 2009, 04:58:30 AM

if the moon is spherical, why isnt the earth? the same laws of physics apply to both.

If a marble is spherical, why isn't a coin? The same laws of physics apply to both.

What do you think makes the moon and other astronomical objects spherical?

I have an answer that begins with a g.
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I dont assume that that moon landings were real: aside from the footage which is consistent with the known physics of the moon, we have moon rocks and we left behind laser reflectors and any country could have tracked Apollo 11 (including the Soviets) and revealed it to be a fake if it were so.

Please read the FAQ.
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Watch the mythbuster's episode on the moon landings. All of the silly claims about the inconsistencies in the photographs and film are wrong.

And yet you fail to properly explain what causes the organ displacement.

Inertia.

Quote from: Robosteve on July 01, 2009, 05:45:18 AM

And yet you fail to properly explain what causes the organ displacement.

Inertia.

shhhhhhhhh!!!! This is a FET forum, physics terms have no meaning here.

What do you think makes the moon and other astronomical objects spherical?

Gravitation.

Watch the mythbuster's episode on the moon landings. All of the silly claims about the inconsistencies in the photographs and film are wrong.

And of course, everyone knows that the Mythbusters are infallible.

Inertia.

Could you elaborate?

Quote from: CACTUSJACKmankin on July 02, 2009, 02:27:03 PM

What do you think makes the moon and other astronomical objects spherical?

Gravitation.

why would other objects be spherical by gravitation and the earth not?

Quote from: CACTUSJACKmankin on July 02, 2009, 02:27:03 PM

Watch the mythbuster's episode on the moon landings. All of the silly claims about the inconsistencies in the photographs and film are wrong.

And of course, everyone knows that the Mythbusters are infallible.

That's silly. The only thing that's infallible is the truth. They did some fine work debunking all of those silly claims about needing multiple light sources and anomalous shadows and the flag waving.

Quote from: With Honor on July 02, 2009, 06:15:59 PM

Inertia.

Could you elaborate?

When you change acceleration your organs are still traveling at the previous speed for a split second and you feel it when they "catch up". An object in motion will stay in motion until impacted by a force, in this case the force is the attachment of internal organs to the body and the wall of the body cavity itself.

Quote from: Robosteve on July 03, 2009, 02:58:59 AM

And of course, everyone knows that the Mythbusters are infallible.

That's silly. The only thing that's infallible is the truth. They did some fine work debunking all of those silly claims about needing multiple light sources and anomalous shadows and the flag waving.

They didn't even address our reasoning that the moon landing was faked.  It was just more globularist propaganda, designed to take the pressure off the real issues.  In fact, they didn't by any stretch prove that the moon landing wasn't a hoax.

Quote from: CACTUSJACKmankin on July 03, 2009, 04:35:35 AM

Quote from: Robosteve on July 03, 2009, 02:58:59 AM

And of course, everyone knows that the Mythbusters are infallible.

That's silly. The only thing that's infallible is the truth. They did some fine work debunking all of those silly claims about needing multiple light sources and anomalous shadows and the flag waving.

They didn't even address our reasoning that the moon landing was faked.  It was just more globularist propaganda, designed to take the pressure off the real issues.  In fact, they didn't by any stretch prove that the moon landing wasn't a hoax.

and here i thought you couldnt prove a negative. They certainly proved that the complaints were unfounded and that the footage is consistent with moon physics.