Obviously jkr you have not read my messages...all those three pictures indicate that there is a viewing range limit of those cameras...for example the curvature from Mississauga indicates that the camera used there was not good enough to capture more details...
See the explanations (with a photograph showing clearly the rooftop of SkyDome, from a distance of 50 km, taken right on the beach):
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=303b8c341134628e796796d2050bac1d&topic=28952.msg696056#msg696056
Quite the contrary. I have read everything you have posted in the True Believers section of the .NET site. I actually enjoyed most of it and found a lot of information that I did not know. I am actually a fan of yours. What I am pointing out is that there is a reason why pictures aren't accepted as evidence. Otherwise, we would just take satellite images that show Earth from space and be done with all debating. I am not saying your images are fake or real, I am saying that we don't have enough information to draw a conclusion based on those images.
All those pictures are real; here is another one:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/meanman94/1492421330/Taken around 8 pm from Colonel Samuel Smith Park (Etobicoke)
Tripod mounted
Lens: 28-80mm F/3.3-5.6 G
Focal Length: 66mm
Exposure Mode: Shutter Priority
Metering Mode: Multi-Pattern
Exposure: 1/640 sec
Aperture: F/5.3
ISO: 400
Also check out:
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=28196.msg675541#msg675541If you do not like pictures, then we have two videos, taken on the Spanish beach.
Here are the details, which can be seen by everybody:
Islamic History of Europe
Between 2:56 si 3:00 the author shows us the spanish beach and points towards the african coastline
Between 3:02 si 3:07 we can see clearly that there is no curvature all the way to Morocco; moreover, if we use the full screen option, we will see the waves splashing onto the opposing beach/shore...this is actually a closeup taken, again, from that beach...
Between 3:19 - 3:22, WE CAN SEE THE WAVES SPLASHING ONTO THE OPPOSING BEACH, EVEN WITH THE AUTHOR STANDING ON THE SPANISH SHORELINE, RIGHT NEXT TO THE STRAIT OF GIBRALTAR; on a round earth, we would see an ascending slope, with a midpoint curvature of 3.31 meters.
Between 3:43 si 3:45, the same thing, zero curvature...full screen option, the waves splashing onto the opposing beach/shore, WITH THE AUTHOR STADING RIGHT THERE ON THE SPANISH BEACH.The Barbarians, here are the details, where we can see very clearly that there is no ascending slope, no midpoint curvature:
The Barbarians, hosted by Terry Jones
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-811260411880444286&q=barbarians+terry+jones&total=22&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1Between 38:28 - 38:35, we can see clearly ABSOLUTELY NO CURVATURE ALL THE WAY TO MOROCCO...the surface of the strait is completely flat...Here is an extraordinary photograph to match, taken right on the Spanish beach:
You might also remember the 1908 Tunguska explosion seen from 1000 km distance, and from London/Stockholm:
The first report of the explosion was in the Irkutsk paper dated July 2, 1908, published two days after the explosion:
...the peasants saw a body shining very brightly (too bright for the naked eye) with a bluish-white light.... The body was in the form of 'a pipe', i.e. cylindrical. The sky was cloudless, except that low down on the horizon, in the direction in which this glowing body was observed, a small dark cloud was noticed. It was hot and dry and when the shining body approached the ground (which was covered with forest at this point) it seemed to be pulverized, and in its place a loud crash, not like thunder, but as if from the fall of large stones or from gunfire was heard. All the buildings shook and at the same time a forked tongue of flames broke through the cloud.
All the inhabitants of the village ran out into the street in panic. The old women wept, everyone thought that the end of the world was approaching...
The visual obstacle between Irkutsk and Tunguska is over 67 kilometers.Tunguska, 1908, Siberia, June 30, 7:14 am
The famous explosion, seen all the way to London, Antwerp, Stockholm and Irkutsk was caused by the ball lightning experiments of Nikola Tesla, see:
http://www.cheniere.org/books/part1/starting%20pages.htmhttp://www.cheniere.org/books/part1/teslaweapons.htmHere is what the particle accelerator (actually, vortex accelerator) laboratory looked like, built in 1899, by Nikola Tesla:
http://www.cheniere.org/books/part1/fig6.gifhttp://www.cheniere.org/books/part1/fig10.jpgThe inhabitants of Central Siberia saw the fall and explosion of the ball lightning over an area with a radius of 600-1000 km.
The explosion took place at approximately 6 kilometers above the river Tunguska...with no crater found...
MORE NEWSPAPERS ACCOUNTS FROM LONDON:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/esp_ciencia_tunguska02.htmhttp://www.nuforc.org/GNTungus.htmlA woman north of London wrote the London Times that on midnight of July 1st the sky glowed so brightly it was possible to read large print inside her house. A meteorological observer in England recounted on the nights of June 30th and July 1st:
A strong orange yellow light became visible in the north and northeast... causing an undue prolongation of twilight lasting to daybreak on July 1st...There was a complete absence of scintillation or flickering, and no tendency for the formation of streamers, or a luminous arch, characteristic of auroral phenomena... Twilight on both of these night was prolonged to daybreak, and there was no real darkness.(33)
The report that most closely ties these strange cosmic happenings with Tesla?s power transmission scheme is that while the sky was aglow with this eerie light it was possible to clearly see ships at sea for miles in the middle of the night.(
To the Editor of the Times.
Sir,--Struck with the unusual brightness of the heavens, the band of golfers staying here strolled towards the links at 11 o?clock last evening in order that they might obtain an uninterrupted view of the phenomenon. Looking northwards across the sea they found that the sky had the appearance of a dying sunset of exquisite beauty. This not only lasted but actually grew both in extent and intensity till 2:30 this morning, when driving clouds from the East obliterated the gorgeous colouring. I myself was aroused from sleep at 1:15, and so strong was the light at this hour that I could read a book by it in my chamber quite comfortably. At 1:45 the whole sky, N. and N.-E., was a delicate salmon pink, and the birds began their matutinal song. No doubt others will have noticed this phenomenon, but as Brancaster holds an almost unique position in facing north to the sea, we who are staying here had the best possible view of it.
Yours faithfully,
Holcombe Ingleby.
Dormy House Club, Brancaster, July 1 (1908 )
TO THE EDITOR OF THE TIMES.
Sir,--I should be interested in hearing whether others of your readers observed the strange light in the sky which was seen here last night by my sister and myself. I do not know when it first appeared; we saw it between 12 o'clock (midnight) and 12:15 a.m. It was in the northeast and of a bright flame-colour like the light of sunrise or sunset. The sky, for some distance above the light, which appeared to be on the horizon, was blue as in the daytime, with bands of light cloud of a pinkish colour floating across it at intervals. Only the brightest stars could be seen in any part of the sky, though it was an almost cloudless night. It was possible to read large print indoors, and the hands of the clock in my room were quite distinct. An hour later, at about 1:30 a.m., the room was quite light, as if it had been day; the light in the sky was then more dispersed and was a fainter yellow. The whole effect was that of a night in Norway at about this time of year. I am in the habit of watching the sky, and have noticed the amount of light indoors at different hours of the night several times in the last fortnight. I have never at any time seen anything the least like this in England, and it would be interesting if any one would explain the cause of so unusual a sight.
Yours faithfully,
Katharine Stephen.
Godmanchester, Huntingdon, July 1.
The proof that the explosion was observed, immediately, in London, Antwerp, and Stockholm:
Some people saw massive, silvery clouds and brilliant, colored sunsets on the horizon, whereas others witnessed luminescent skies at night. Londoners, for instance, could plainly read newsprint at midnight without artificial lights.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=the-tunguska-mystery-100-years-laterOn the night of 30 June and 1 July, the sky throughout Europe was strangely bright. Throughout the United Kingdom, over 3000 miles from the point of impact, it was possible to play cricket and read newspapers by the glow from the night sky.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/148819-Tunguska-the-Horns-of-the-Moon-and-EvolutionIn London on the night of June 30th the air-glow illuminates the northern quadrant of the heavens so brightly that the Times can be read at midnight. In Antwerp the glare of what looks like a huge bonfire rises twenty degrees above the northern horizon, and the sweep second hands of stopwatches are clearly visible at one a.m. In Stockholm, photographers find they can take pictures out of doors without need of cumbersome flash apparatus at any time of night from June 30th to July 3rd.
The visual obstacle between London and Tungusk IS OVER 9000 KILOMETERS IN HEIGHT! THE EXPLOSION AT TUNGUSKA PROVES CLEARLY THAT THERE IS NO CURVATURE OVER A DISTANCE OF AT LEAST 7000 KILOMETERS IN DISTANCE.