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are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?

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jamieft

are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« on: May 17, 2009, 02:20:24 AM »
please prove a flat earth using real science, photographs, videos...
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MisterHamper

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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2009, 02:50:17 AM »
Nope there isn't, sorry, move along please
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Sir_Drainsalot

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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2009, 03:39:25 AM »
Read the FAQ.
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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2009, 06:22:25 AM »
don't read the faq, read the wall to your left, it makes more sense.
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Sir_Drainsalot

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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2009, 08:52:06 AM »
Quote from: Paradox on May 17, 2009, 06:22:25 AM
don't read the faq, read the wall to your left, it makes more sense.

You obviously havent been reading it hard enough.
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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2009, 09:33:36 AM »
Quote from: Sir_Drainsalot on May 17, 2009, 08:52:06 AM
Quote from: Paradox on May 17, 2009, 06:22:25 AM
don't read the faq, read the wall to your left, it makes more sense.

You obviously havent been reading it hard enough.

i've hardly read it at all, but then i've hardly read the bible at all. It's obvious in both cases that they are non-sensical, no offence
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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2009, 09:36:49 AM »
Quote from: jamieft on May 17, 2009, 02:20:24 AM
please prove a flat earth using real science, photographs, videos...

Well I don't have any photos of the flat earth.  But I do have this one.

Its of Coruscant.  Recently take by the newly repaired Hubble telescope.  Who knew right?



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MisterHamper

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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2009, 10:09:34 AM »
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on May 17, 2009, 09:36:49 AM
Quote from: jamieft on May 17, 2009, 02:20:24 AM
please prove a flat earth using real science, photographs, videos...

Well I don't have any photos of the flat earth.  But I do have this one.

How about taking some pictures of the Flat Earth? Take them from a plane or launch an air-balloon or something. I don't really care if they are real or photoshopped (as long as they look 100% real), I just want to see what kinda BS is on your imagination.
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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2009, 10:24:57 AM »
Quote from: MisterHamper on May 17, 2009, 10:09:34 AM
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on May 17, 2009, 09:36:49 AM
Quote from: jamieft on May 17, 2009, 02:20:24 AM
please prove a flat earth using real science, photographs, videos...

Well I don't have any photos of the flat earth.  But I do have this one.

How about taking some pictures of the Flat Earth? Take them from a plane or launch an air-balloon or something. I don't really care if they are real or photoshopped (as long as they look 100% real), I just want to see what kinda BS is on your imagination.








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MisterHamper

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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2009, 10:32:00 AM »
A round Earth alright.
You can clearly see that everything just "stops" at a certain point. Can clearly see it is not just an "effect" caused by "thick atmosphere", because you would still be able to see <something> through a "fog". So either way, the Earth LOOKS round. You can explain that the earth LOOKS round by saying it is "bendy light" or using occam's razor, either way is fine by me.
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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2009, 10:33:49 AM »
OK now you're not making sense.  I can't show you a round earth.  It doesn't exist....  :-\
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MisterHamper

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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2009, 10:53:07 AM »
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on May 17, 2009, 10:33:49 AM
OK now you're not making sense.  I can't show you a round earth.  It doesn't exist....  :-\

You just showed an Earth that looked pretty damn round. It does to you too, since you have to explain its "roundness" with bendy-light or something like that.
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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2009, 08:39:19 AM »
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on May 17, 2009, 09:36:49 AM
Well I don't have any photos of the flat earth.  But I do have this one.

Its of Coruscant.  Recently take by the newly repaired Hubble telescope.  Who knew right?





Failtroll fails again.
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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2009, 09:13:37 AM »
Quote from: tuffers on May 18, 2009, 08:39:19 AM
Failtroll fails again.

Look fluffer, unless you can find some evidence to refute my claim that Coruscant exists.  I suggest you STFU and GTFO. 
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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2009, 09:22:39 AM »
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on May 18, 2009, 09:13:37 AM
Look fluffer, unless you can find some evidence to refute my claim that Coruscant exists.  I suggest you STFU and GTFO. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coruscant

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Coruscant (pronounced /ˈkɒrəsɑːnt/) is a planet in the fictional Star Wars universe.

Now go away.
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MisterHamper

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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2009, 09:53:48 AM »
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on May 18, 2009, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: tuffers on May 18, 2009, 08:39:19 AM
Failtroll fails again.

Look fluffer, unless you can find some evidence to refute my claim that Coruscant exists.  I suggest you STFU and GTFO. 

"You just showed an Earth that looked pretty damn round. It does to you too, since you have to explain its "roundness" with bendy-light and something like that."
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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2009, 10:21:58 AM »
Quote from: MisterHamper on May 17, 2009, 10:32:00 AM
A round Earth alright.
You can clearly see that everything just "stops" at a certain point. Can clearly see it is not just an "effect" caused by "thick atmosphere", because you would still be able to see <something> through a "fog". So either way, the Earth LOOKS round. You can explain that the earth LOOKS round by saying it is "bendy light" or using occam's razor, either way is fine by me.

A vanishing point exists regardless of whether the Earth is round or not. There is a limit to what the eye can see in terms of distance.
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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2009, 10:31:13 AM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on May 18, 2009, 10:21:58 AM
Quote from: MisterHamper on May 17, 2009, 10:32:00 AM
A round Earth alright.
You can clearly see that everything just "stops" at a certain point. Can clearly see it is not just an "effect" caused by "thick atmosphere", because you would still be able to see <something> through a "fog". So either way, the Earth LOOKS round. You can explain that the earth LOOKS round by saying it is "bendy light" or using occam's razor, either way is fine by me.

A vanishing point exists regardless of whether the Earth is round or not. There is a limit to what the eye can see in terms of distance.
Yet somehow you can see stars which are billions of miles away...Even if we follow FET, the sun is still 3000miles from the Earth and according to this explanation, we should not see the sun.
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MisterHamper

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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2009, 11:34:56 AM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on May 18, 2009, 10:21:58 AM
Quote from: MisterHamper on May 17, 2009, 10:32:00 AM
A round Earth alright.
You can clearly see that everything just "stops" at a certain point. Can clearly see it is not just an "effect" caused by "thick atmosphere", because you would still be able to see <something> through a "fog". So either way, the Earth LOOKS round. You can explain that the earth LOOKS round by saying it is "bendy light" or using occam's razor, either way is fine by me.

A vanishing point exists regardless of whether the Earth is round or not. There is a limit to what the eye can see in terms of distance.

You can CLEARLY see it isn't just because something is blocking the view (like some kind of "fog" or "thick atmosphere" - everything just suddenly cuts off after a couple miles - because, guess what, that is the Earth's curvature.
The Earth looks round even in FET's eyes - why else would you need to make up your theories about bendy light etc? To explain why the Earth actually looks round....
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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2009, 11:47:43 AM »
i think they r talkin about things gettin smaller as u get further away?
but obviously that could only apply at ground level.. after u get a fair bit of altitude u would easily be able to see the whole earth..
he said exactly the same thing on another thread, i pointed this out to him then too..
o well..
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MisterHamper

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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2009, 12:16:31 PM »
Quote from: Henrythecamel on May 18, 2009, 11:47:43 AM
i think they r talkin about things gettin smaller as u get further away?
but obviously that could only apply at ground level.. after u get a fair bit of altitude u would easily be able to see the whole earth..
he said exactly the same thing on another thread, i pointed this out to him then too..
o well..

Yes he probably is, but that would apply to the ground (/ocean-level) as well. The ground wouldn't just magically get cut off, it would just get less and less visible if FET was actually true. :)
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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2009, 01:07:15 PM »
Quote from: tuffers on May 18, 2009, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on May 18, 2009, 09:13:37 AM
Look fluffer, unless you can find some evidence to refute my claim that Coruscant exists.  I suggest you STFU and GTFO. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coruscant

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Coruscant (pronounced /ˈkɒrəsɑːnt/) is a planet in the fictional Star Wars universe.

Now go away.

That's your scientific evidence?  Wiki?  Holy shit, epic fail.
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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2009, 01:10:10 PM »
Coruscant might exist, but how did you come to the conclusion that the picture was taken by the hubble?  Link source please?
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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2009, 01:33:43 PM »
Quote from: munkirench on May 18, 2009, 01:10:10 PM
Coruscant might exist, but how did you come to the conclusion that the picture was taken by the hubble?  Link source please?

The point of Coruscant existing isn't the point of the post.  The point being photographic evidence means nothing.  I can show you photos of bigfoot, unicorns and the loch ness monster if you would like.
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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2009, 01:46:39 PM »
The point is that not all photos are doctored.  It is unreasonable to reject ALL photos simply because it is possible to doctor them.  It is especially unreasonable to reject a photo simply because you are personally biased against the conclusion that it draws and there is no actual evidence or motive to show that it might have been.
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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2009, 01:55:21 PM »
Quote from: munkirench on May 18, 2009, 01:46:39 PM
The point is that not all photos are doctored.  It is unreasonable to reject ALL photos simply because it is possible to doctor them.  It is especially unreasonable to reject a photo simply because you are personally biased against the conclusion that it draws and there is no actual evidence or motive to show that it might have been.

Doctored photo?  Are you bias against the conclusion that it draws? 

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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2009, 02:33:50 PM »
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on May 18, 2009, 01:55:21 PM
Quote from: munkirench on May 18, 2009, 01:46:39 PM
The point is that not all photos are doctored.  It is unreasonable to reject ALL photos simply because it is possible to doctor them.  It is especially unreasonable to reject a photo simply because you are personally biased against the conclusion that it draws and there is no actual evidence or motive to show that it might have been.

Doctored photo?  Are you bias against the conclusion that it draws? 



I lack the expertise to detect actual evidence against that photo, but I am aware of the motive of the photographer to capture the so-called bigfoot.  I am not biased for or against it, but I use logic to deduce that this should not be considered reliable evidence for the existence of the bigfoot.

FEers generally use no such logic.  Case in point being the photo that I recently submitted to this forum of the shuttle Atlantis against the Sun.  It was not taken by NASA, so there is no motive.  The photographer was not trying to prove anything, not pursuing fame or fortune.  He stands to gain nothing by way of the photo, and yet the people of this forum rejected it merely because it could have been doctored.

thread of the photo I submitted:
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=29042.0
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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2009, 02:35:37 PM »
Just because its not doctored doesn't mean its not a fake.  Would you agree?
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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2009, 02:55:57 PM »
Last I knew, that Bigfoot photo has been thoroughly analyzed my many independent experts and has not been conclusively proven to be a fake.
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Re: are there any LOGICAL arguments for a flat earth?
« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2009, 02:57:30 PM »
Quote from: markjo on May 18, 2009, 02:55:57 PM
Last I knew, that Bigfoot photo has been thoroughly analyzed my many independent experts and has not been conclusively proven to be a fake.

Apparently you are bias to the conclusion that picture draws.
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