Great news for FE'ers!

This is not a joke.  There is one million dollars waiting for you at the James Randi Foundation for you.  It is a standing prize offered to anyone that can reasonably prove ANY pseudoscience or paranormal claim.

If the earth is really flat, it should be pretty easy to prove.  Do it, and you are $1,000,000 richer.  No strings.  No tricks.

If it were me I would charter a plane for a few thousand bucks and go photograph the "Ice shelf" while documenting it's GPS boundaries.  Not hard to do.

Another option:  Get a friend to help you and send him/her to a different part of the world.  Sync your watches and measure the shadow of a vertical length of stick in the ground at the same time of day.  When you find the shadows the same length you are $1,000,000 richer.

This is a real prize and it's conditions are reasonable.  James Randi will accommodate you.

When you win the prize I will be first in line cheering.  I don't believe the earth is flat, but if it really is than I need to be proven wrong.

I came up with only 2 ideas for proof, but I'll bet you can do better than me.

This is part of the conspiracy, they would execute you before you collected. This is how they cull the flat earth believers.

There is no "THEY" in this case.

James Randi is a private citizen and it is his personal money set aside.  No government involvement.  Research it before you draw conclusions.

Anyway, if "They" were actually culling flat earth believers, then this would be a great place to start.  Your ID would already be traced and you would already be culled.  Yet here you are.........not culled.  Hmmm

A conspiracy? 

kids.... 

This is how they cull the flat earth believers.

I'm glad someone's doing it. And the fact that private money is being used instead of our overstretched public coffers only makes me happies.

Quote from: Roger765 on May 13, 2009, 07:52:32 AM

This is how they cull the flat earth believers.

I'm glad someone's doing it. And the fact that private money is being used instead of our overstretched public coffers only makes me happies.

No-one has culled me yet, unless I am very much mistaken.

This is not a joke.  There is one million dollars waiting for you at the James Randi Foundation for you.  It is a standing prize offered to anyone that can reasonably prove ANY pseudoscience or paranormal claim.

If the earth is really flat, it should be pretty easy to prove.  Do it, and you are $1,000,000 richer.  No strings.  No tricks.

If it were me I would charter a plane for a few thousand bucks and go photograph the "Ice shelf" while documenting it's GPS boundaries.  Not hard to do.

Another option:  Get a friend to help you and send him/her to a different part of the world.  Sync your watches and measure the shadow of a vertical length of stick in the ground at the same time of day.  When you find the shadows the same length you are $1,000,000 richer.

This is a real prize and it's conditions are reasonable.  James Randi will accommodate you.

When you win the prize I will be first in line cheering.  I don't believe the earth is flat, but if it really is than I need to be proven wrong.

I came up with only 2 ideas for proof, but I'll bet you can do better than me.

James Randi would not pay us any money, because an FE is neither supernatural nor paranormal.

I did not SAY supernatural dumbass.  I said PSEUDOSCIENCE.  And so does his offer.  Read it again!  You comment on something you know nothing about.

Quote from: rrenaissancemann on May 13, 2009, 01:08:49 PM

I did not SAY supernatural dumbass.  I said PSEUDOSCIENCE.  And so does his offer.  Read it again!  You comment on something you know nothing about.

Epic win for this guy!

Agreed. His point is well taken.

I did not SAY supernatural dumbass.  I said PSEUDOSCIENCE.  And so does his offer.  Read it again!  You comment on something you know nothing about.

Perhaps you need to read it again.  You didn't say supernatural, but James Randi did:

I, James Randi, through the JREF, will pay US$1,000,000 [One Million Dollars/US] to any person who can demonstrate any psychic, supernatural or paranormal ability under satisfactory observing conditions.

The word pseudoscience is not mentioned in any of the 16 rules of the challenge.

1.000.000$ would be NOTHING compared to all the money you would make by discovering, with definitive proof, that the Earth was flat, and then writing a book (or several) about it, getting nobel prizes, getting movies made about this/you and getting royalties, getting interviews, become world-famous, making expeditions, selling merchandise etc etc etc etc

(in before "noone would believe just ONE person, no matter how good his proof is - not even ONE out of all the 6 billion people on this planet would check if his story was true, after seeing proper evidence. Even though this would be one of the biggest discoveries in the whole world.")

1.000.000$ would be NOTHING compared to all the money you would make by discovering, with definitive proof, that the Earth was flat, and then writing a book (or several) about it, getting nobel prizes, getting movies made about this/you and getting royalties, getting interviews, become world-famous, making expeditions, selling merchandise etc etc etc etc

(in before "noone would believe just ONE person, no matter how good his proof is - not even ONE out of all the 6 billion people on this planet would check if his story was true, after seeing proper evidence. Even though this would be one of the biggest discoveries in the whole world.")

Didn't seem to pay off all that well for Rowbotham. 

It's obviously flat. The only ones claiming pseudoscience here are the Round Earthers who claim the unobserved and unexperienced without any experimental evidence whatsoever.

If you want full blown retardation please apply here.

FE isn’t pseudoscience or paranormal, it’s fact. Even if the Flat Earth Society would try to go and prove this claim everyone would still cling to the lies, afraid of the truth.

lol fact. You know what that word means?

It's obviously flat. The only ones claiming pseudoscience here are the Round Earthers who claim the unobserved and unexperienced without any experimental evidence whatsoever.

When I see the sun set where and when RET predicts, I experience and observe experimental evidence of RE. Clearly, your claim is false. Now if FET actually made a prediction for the sunset, it won't be pseudoscience.

Didn't seem to pay off all that well for Rowbotham. 

Well spending your whole life convincing people to pay you to listen to you tout a load if idiotic shit... sounds like win to me.

It's obviously flat. The only ones claiming pseudoscience here are the Round Earthers who claim the unobserved and unexperienced without any experimental evidence whatsoever.

Even YOU see the world as round. That is why you have to make bullshit theories like "bendy light", because the WORLD LOOKS ROUND.

Quote from: Tom Bishop on May 13, 2009, 08:31:06 PM

It's obviously flat. The only ones claiming pseudoscience here are the Round Earthers who claim the unobserved and unexperienced without any experimental evidence whatsoever.

 That is why you have to make bullshit theories like "bendy light",

Bendy light exists even in round Earth theory. Read up on mirages.

Quote from: MisterHamper on May 14, 2009, 04:07:17 AM

Quote from: Tom Bishop on May 13, 2009, 08:31:06 PM

It's obviously flat. The only ones claiming pseudoscience here are the Round Earthers who claim the unobserved and unexperienced without any experimental evidence whatsoever.

 That is why you have to make bullshit theories like "bendy light",

Bendy light exists even in round Earth theory. Read up on mirages.

Yes, but it isn't butchered in an effort to explain the stunningly simple.

Try putting peanut butter in your ears. What are you doing? Putting peanut butter in my ears, what does it look like? That's not what peanut butter is for. Well peanut butter exists in round earth theory!

it doesn't matter if you think FE is fact or pseudoscience for the sake of this prize.  Just what James Randi thinks.  I promise you he and 99% of the rest of science calls FE a pseudoscience.  That's all that matters for the million bucks.  Now....GO GET THAT MONEY!!!!!!   Or continue to waste your time here whining about all the reasons nobody of note believes you.  TIME TO BUCK UP!!!   GO GET THE MONEY!!!

You could even send him an e-mail asking if he would agree to pay the million dollars for proof of a flat earth. I am 100% certain he will say yes. Never hurts to ask

But either way, 1.000.000$ would be NOTHING compared to all the money you would make by discovering, with definitive proof, that the Earth was flat, and then writing a book (or several) about it and the huge conspiracy, getting nobel prizes, getting movies made about this/you and getting royalties, getting interviews, become world-famous, making expeditions, selling merchandise etc etc etc etc

(in before "noone would believe just ONE person, no matter how good his proof is - not even ONE out of all the 6 billion people on this planet would check if his story was true, after seeing proper evidence. Even though this would be one of the biggest discoveries in the whole world.")

It's obviously flat. The only ones claiming pseudoscience here are the Round Earthers who claim the unobserved and unexperienced without any experimental evidence whatsoever.

It's not obviously flat.  That's why this forum exists.  That's why bendy light gets wheeled out.

The current scientific view says the earth is round:  Astronomers, geologists, meteorologists, climateographers, cartographers, butchers, bakers, candlestick makers:  The all agree on one thing.

Wikipedia lists the following traits as the mark of pseudoscience.  I've added some relevant examples for FET :

    Use of vague, exaggerated or untestable claims        - Actually, the observed shape of the earth at ground level is untestable
    Over-reliance on confirmation rather than refutation  - "It's up to the ney-sayers to prove us wrong; We know we're right".
    Lack of openness to testing by other experts           - No formal peer-review.  Anything else put down to lack of "good telescope" or BLight.
    Absence of progress                                             - Bendy light / Perspective / Celestial Gears still cannot explain the rotating heavens
    Personalization of issues                                       -  FETs refer to themselves as "free thinkers"; everyone else is indoctrinated.
    Use of misleading language                                    - "occam's razor", "proof", "truth", "science".  They've all been abused.

Quote from: spanner34.5 on May 14, 2009, 04:38:45 AM

Quote from: MisterHamper on May 14, 2009, 04:07:17 AM

Quote from: Tom Bishop on May 13, 2009, 08:31:06 PM

It's obviously flat. The only ones claiming pseudoscience here are the Round Earthers who claim the unobserved and unexperienced without any experimental evidence whatsoever.

 That is why you have to make bullshit theories like "bendy light",

Bendy light exists even in round Earth theory. Read up on mirages.

Yes, but it isn't butchered in an effort to explain the stunningly simple.

Try putting peanut butter in your ears. What are you doing? Putting peanut butter in my ears, what does it look like? That's not what peanut butter is for. Well peanut butter exists in round earth theory!

Please explain why I should want to put peanut butter in my ear

Thank you Moon squirter for taking the time for that post.  You hit the nail on the head.

FE'rs think that they are the ones being skeptical.  They do not even know what proper skepticism is. 

Anyone that understands what a Logical Fallacy is could use this site as a textbook.

You stupid DOPE spanner......can't you recognize an example when you see one?
Or is your reply another conscious lame attempt at diversion?

You stupid DOPE spanner......can't you recognize an example when you see one?
Or is your reply another conscious lame attempt at diversion?

I can recognise someone trying to trick me into putting peanut butter in my ear.

Please explain why I should want to put peanut butter in my ear

Because it also exists in round earth theory.