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Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth

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supman75

Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« on: May 07, 2009, 10:20:39 AM »
Hello, I don't know if I'm posting this in the right place, seeing as I have just joined this forum...

Anyways, I am a Freshman in high school, and I need to give a persuasive speech. My speech must have three main points to support my idea, mention the opposing view, and have 7 types of sources cited in the speech. 4 of these sources have to be different types (book, website, magazine, etc.)

What I really need help with is the sources and three strong main points, so if anyone could help me.... that would be great!  :)
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markjo

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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2009, 11:10:32 AM »
Or you could read Earth Not a Globe by Samuel Rowbotham a.k.a. Parallax.  It's available free on line here: http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za00.htm
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2009, 11:23:44 AM »
Unless you go to a hippie high school, or unless you don't care about your grades and social life, I would highly recommend NOT doing a presentation on the flat earth.  It would be social suicide.  Presenting on a controversial issue is one thing... trying to present that the Earth is flat is something else.  Not trying to give merit to either side, but you will just be laughed at.
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2009, 01:03:11 PM »
Rowbotham lectured for 20 odd years about the Earth being flat and he did fairly well for himself.
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2009, 01:59:43 PM »
Quote from: markjo on May 07, 2009, 01:03:11 PM
Rowbotham lectured for 20 odd years about the Earth being flat and he did fairly well for himself.

He lived back in the 1800's, where there was not as much proof of a flat earth as there was today. There was not that many people sailing (and seeing the famous "masts is visible before the rest of the ship")or flying around the world back then, or using GPS, or seeing many countries send rockets, sattelites and manned spaceflights into space, and there was not that much of a globalisation either. There was not that many big towers etc that could be used to see how the world curve first-hand.

Today you would get ANNIHILATED for saying something this stupid in public, and actually believing it.

(in before "The Conspiracy", "bendy light", "circum-navigation", "huge ice wall guarded by 600 men on snow-mobiles", "huge GPS-towers everywhere" etc etc)

And the only reason he did well, was because he was well-spoken and idiots actually believed him. No-one here is well-spoken (no-one answers questions or come up with sound theories and try to counter Round Earth "theories"). Its all just "its the conspiracy", "look out the window, the earth is flat", "read the faq noobs" etc. But ofcourse there will always be idiots that will believe anything and people make lots of money off of that. Scientology, the moon-landing-was-a-hoax, 9/11 etc
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2009, 02:02:40 PM »
Quote from: markjo on May 07, 2009, 01:03:11 PM
Rowbotham lectured for 20 odd years about the Earth being flat and he did fairly well for himself.
But he never tried to convince a bunch of his indoctrinated, pubescent, extremely judgmental peers.
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2009, 04:08:40 PM »
I gave a speech once about how in Canada,milk comes in bags. I had the class in tears it was so perfect. I suggest just taking the FAQ and morph it to your speaking style. As for sources,dig up Tom Bishop's signature.
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2009, 06:21:35 AM »
Quote from: Waste of Mind on May 07, 2009, 04:08:40 PM
I gave a speech once about how in Canada,milk comes in bags. I had the class in tears it was so perfect. I suggest just taking the FAQ and morph it to your speaking style. As for sources,dig up Tom Bishop's signature.

Brilliant.
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If you say that the earth is flat, you are destroying centuries of evolution.
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2009, 09:30:41 AM »
Absolutely horrible idea.
Reasons:
1. There are no plausible or reasonable arguments supporting the FE theory
2. FE idiots are mentally challenged, so they won't be able to provide help
3. It is definite scientific FACT, that the Earth is spherical.
4. You will be laughed at and people will know that you are a retard.
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2009, 11:41:05 AM »
I just stumbled on this thread and I'm a little confused. Why do you guys hang out on this forum? I've been here a few days and it is clear that some people here are complete insane, but it seems there are some sane people sprinkled in.
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2009, 01:06:02 PM »
Quote from: Toth on May 08, 2009, 01:00:35 PM
As near as I can figure, every person who has posted in this thread so far is a "round earther". The attitudes displayed in each response has caused me to forget which theory is the retarded one.

If it needs help eating or going to the bathroom then it's retarded.
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2009, 01:09:48 PM »
Quote from: jungle_cat on May 08, 2009, 01:06:02 PM
Quote from: Toth on May 08, 2009, 01:00:35 PM
As near as I can figure, every person who has posted in this thread so far is a "round earther". The attitudes displayed in each response has caused me to forget which theory is the retarded one.

If it needs help eating or going to the bathroom then it's retarded.

My father needed help eating and going to the bathroom before he passed away and he was not retarded.  Thanks a lot you insensitive prick.   >:(
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2009, 01:14:20 PM »
Don't make anything like this if you wan't to keep your credibility. FE is supported by NO evidence or observations. It's as stupid if not even more as for example creationism
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2009, 01:16:37 PM »
Quote from: markjo on May 08, 2009, 01:09:48 PM
My father needed help eating and going to the bathroom before he passed away and he was not retarded.  Thanks a lot you insensitive prick.   >:(

I didn't know your father. Therefore it is not insensitive.
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2009, 03:24:56 PM »
Quote from: jungle_cat on May 08, 2009, 01:16:37 PM
Quote from: markjo on May 08, 2009, 01:09:48 PM
My father needed help eating and going to the bathroom before he passed away and he was not retarded.  Thanks a lot you insensitive prick.   >:(

I didn't know your father. Therefore it is not insensitive.

You made a blanket assertion without knowing any facts.  Insensitive or ignorant.  Either way, you're still a prick.
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2009, 04:52:54 PM »
The point is, it doesn't matter if FE is wrong or not.  He will be absolutely, positively, be ridiculed.  His social life will be over.  So unless he believes so strongly that the Earth is flat that he is willing to sentence himself to becoming a pariah, he should definitely NOT present on a Flat Earth.
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2009, 05:12:32 PM »
If he says it with a little laughter in the soul,he will be praised not mocked. L2KNOWHOWTOHAZASOCIALLIFEZ.
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2009, 07:02:56 PM »
I do suggest that you get all aspects of the theory down well,and practice with friends/family. This way,you won't look like an idiot up there.
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supman75

Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2009, 08:26:06 PM »
I've decided that I'm just going to make my speech as funny and stupid as possible, and provide a few laughs. Hopefully my teacher has a sense of humor, and I get away with at least a D minus...
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2009, 11:12:36 PM »
Quote from: Waste of Mind on May 08, 2009, 07:02:56 PM
I do suggest that you get all aspects of the theory down well,and practice with friends/family. This way,you won't look like an idiot up there.

I think hes going to be looking like an idiot because hes trying to convince people the earth is flat. I think youd get a better response your way, just make it funny. Tell them about the ice wall, that always gets a good laugh.
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2009, 05:15:54 AM »
Quote from: supman75 on May 10, 2009, 08:26:06 PM
I've decided that I'm just going to make my speech as funny and stupid as possible, and provide a few laughs. Hopefully my teacher has a sense of humor, and I get away with at least a D minus...

Would be pretty easy to make your speec as funny and stupid as possible - just say the Earth is flat and quote the FAQ etc. :)
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2009, 06:05:39 AM »
ive got many good laughs out of telling my friends in detail, which can take up to 6 mins and is kinda like a speech i guess :P. Just try that, will be awesome.
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Quote from: narcberry on May 27, 2008, 05:51:47 PM
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2009, 11:41:57 PM »
Quote from: supman75 on May 10, 2009, 08:26:06 PM
I've decided that I'm just going to make my speech as funny and stupid as possible, and provide a few laughs. Hopefully my teacher has a sense of humor, and I get away with at least a D minus...

OR you could actually make it educational. Making it "as funny and stupid as possible" isn't going to help anyone. It might make you feel superior to make fun of flat earthers for a few minutes but at the end of the day your goal should be to enlighten people with your speech. It's an oral presentation, not a comedy routine. I hope you do get a D minus.
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Quote from: SSSavio on July 30, 2009, 05:29:51 AM
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2009, 12:13:40 AM »
What evidence have you got that the Earth is actually flat? There's the Bedford level experiment (which disagrees with bendy light) and probably some more along that line (which have never been confirmed by proper scientists, right, just FEers?).
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2009, 01:44:57 AM »
Is there any particular reason the OP chose this topic, which not only arguing is going to be difficult, but finding SEVERAL academically sound sources for his speech is going to be impossible.


Supman.... take my advice and do a speech arguing that Corvus corax, the common raven, is the most intelligent bird species. Thats a reasonable topic, the center of a TON of well-documented, actual research... and actually probably true.
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2009, 12:41:18 PM »
if i knew this theory was still around when i was in high school (7-11 years ago) i would have done my persuasive speech... as long a people know you are not serious (not saying if you are its a bad thing) i think its a good idea on a tough subject.

then you need to start a thread and put your speech in it
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2009, 12:48:08 PM »
Hey, little nooblets, this thread was made back in May.
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Re: Need Help Creating a 6 Minute Long Persuasive Speech on the Flat Earth
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2009, 01:02:11 PM »
Quote from: Waste of Mind on July 24, 2009, 12:48:08 PM
Hey, little nooblets, this thread was made back in May.


meh true, I hope the guy at least gave a disclaimer before his speech. Personally, I want to know how it went
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