The Earth really is flat!

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Re: The Earth really is flat!
« Reply #30 on: May 10, 2009, 12:23:23 PM »
Since the sun is 300 000 times bigger than the Earth, how can it be noon one place on earth and midnight somewhere else? That would be impossible if the earth was flat.
If the sun was 300000 times bigger than the Earth, you may be right. However the sun is much smaller than the Earth.
And where is the evidence of that?
Read the faq, the sun is approx 30 miles diameter, I believe.

I'm sorry to say, but if the sun was that small, it wouldn't generate enough heat. And even if we were really close to a sun that small, it would have to be EXTREMELY hot, and we would burn up.

Are you suggesting that object can only be either too hot or too cold?

I'm sorry. Would you re-phrase your question? I'm having a hard time understanding what you're trying to ask.

You said the sun 'wouldn't generate enough heat' to keep the planet at the right temperature, unless it was 'EXTREMELY hot, and we would burn up'. 

What's wrong with the sun being a temperature between these two extremes?

Well, if the sun was only 30 miles in diameter, then it would be physically impossible for it to be the same distance away from us as it is estimated or for it to be the heat it is to keep our temperature around the temperature we need to survive.
Why?

Because, the gases would not be able to heat an area that big; the sun wouldn't be able to heat from its position in space all the way to us, and the other planets behind us, especially since we are moving through space.

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Re: The Earth really is flat!
« Reply #31 on: May 10, 2009, 03:32:28 PM »
Since the sun is 300 000 times bigger than the Earth, how can it be noon one place on earth and midnight somewhere else? That would be impossible if the earth was flat.
If the sun was 300000 times bigger than the Earth, you may be right. However the sun is much smaller than the Earth.
And where is the evidence of that?
Read the faq, the sun is approx 30 miles diameter, I believe.

I'm sorry to say, but if the sun was that small, it wouldn't generate enough heat. And even if we were really close to a sun that small, it would have to be EXTREMELY hot, and we would burn up.

Are you suggesting that object can only be either too hot or too cold?

I'm sorry. Would you re-phrase your question? I'm having a hard time understanding what you're trying to ask.

You said the sun 'wouldn't generate enough heat' to keep the planet at the right temperature, unless it was 'EXTREMELY hot, and we would burn up'. 

What's wrong with the sun being a temperature between these two extremes?

Well, if the sun was only 30 miles in diameter, then it would be physically impossible for it to be the same distance away from us as it is estimated or for it to be the heat it is to keep our temperature around the temperature we need to survive.
Why?

Because, the gases would not be able to heat an area that big; the sun wouldn't be able to heat from its position in space all the way to us, and the other planets behind us, especially since we are moving through space.

Are you aware that the FE Sun isn't like the RE Sun?

Are you aware that the FE sun must perform the same function as the RE sun?
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Re: The Earth really is flat!
« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2009, 04:22:08 PM »
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Are you aware that the FE sun must perform the same function as the RE sun?
Well played, sir.

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Re: The Earth really is flat!
« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2009, 08:25:21 PM »
you still didnt answer how the sun rises in the oposite direction it had set in

Re: The Earth really is flat!
« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2009, 05:53:44 PM »
you still didnt answer how the sun rises in the oposite direction it had set in

You might have heard this quite a lot, but FAQ. Seriously.

He has a point. How would it rise and set in the opposite direction in FE? Don't say FAQ, because call me blind, but I didn't see anything about that there.

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Re: The Earth really is flat!
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2009, 01:33:37 AM »
you still didnt answer how the sun rises in the oposite direction it had set in

I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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Re: The Earth really is flat!
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2009, 08:57:01 AM »
Since the sun is 300 000 times bigger than the Earth, how can it be noon one place on earth and midnight somewhere else? That would be impossible if the earth was flat.
If the sun was 300000 times bigger than the Earth, you may be right. However the sun is much smaller than the Earth.
And where is the evidence of that?
Read the faq, the sun is approx 30 miles diameter, I believe.

OHHHHH IF THE FAQ SAID IT, IT MUST BE RIGHT  :o

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Re: The Earth really is flat!
« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2009, 09:42:19 PM »
Now if them Earth "is" flat, than please because of the continental plates of Russia and Canada if were to be moving towards each other on the RE than on the flat earth wouldnt the plates be heading for the ice wall, causing some serious problems and the continetal plates spilting wouldnt that be spliting the earth if it is flat and not as thick as RE is?.. also what about erosion wouldnt that effect the ice wall since it is a mountain range, and also global warming is the earth is a disc than if global warming is happening than such as a RE tho arent we all at risk if there is serious global warming of drowing than that possible going over the Ice Wall and spilling out, than a meteror couldnt that break the flat earth wall and also, Mount Everst would be possible to see with a telescope but we can't on a flat earth and it must be round and no the FAQ from what i see doesnt answer these questions. Also from when the Earth started Im pretty sure the waters and everything were very hot, with lava and everything so it could possiblely melt the Ice wall and again dinosaurs when the meteror hit what happened to the Ice wall than? Now tornadoes couldnt some hit the ice wall , Also comets if one shot by, or a "shoot-star" shot by I would be able to see it for much longer wouldnt I? Also please explain Earthquakes and tsunamis for FE Also since the ice wall is close to shore and has to be a dome under and around the earth wouldnt Tsunamis be able to go over it?

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Re: The Earth really is flat!
« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2009, 09:46:28 PM »

I am quitting professional school and will be trying to fly off the bottom of the earth,



I'm going to dig a deep hole so that I can see outer space.

LOL..

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Re: The Earth really is flat!
« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2009, 09:50:19 PM »
Since the sun is 300 000 times bigger than the Earth, how can it be noon one place on earth and midnight somewhere else? That would be impossible if the earth was flat.
If the sun was 300000 times bigger than the Earth, you may be right. However the sun is much smaller than the Earth.
And where is the evidence of that?
Read the faq, the sun is approx 30 miles diameter, I believe.

OHHHHH IF THE FAQ SAID IT, IT MUST BE RIGHT  :o

Silly person.

Now if light bends up at what degrees? hmmm O.o

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Re: The Earth really is flat!
« Reply #40 on: May 18, 2009, 11:01:04 PM »
Now if them Earth "is" flat, than please because of the continental plates of Russia and Canada if were to be moving towards each other on the RE than on the flat earth wouldnt the plates be heading for the ice wall, causing some serious problems and the continetal plates spilting wouldnt that be spliting the earth if it is flat and not as thick as RE is?.. also what about erosion wouldnt that effect the ice wall since it is a mountain range, and also global warming is the earth is a disc than if global warming is happening than such as a RE tho arent we all at risk if there is serious global warming of drowing than that possible going over the Ice Wall and spilling out, than a meteror couldnt that break the flat earth wall and also, Mount Everst would be possible to see with a telescope but we can't on a flat earth and it must be round and no the FAQ from what i see doesnt answer these questions. Also from when the Earth started Im pretty sure the waters and everything were very hot, with lava and everything so it could possiblely melt the Ice wall and again dinosaurs when the meteror hit what happened to the Ice wall than? Now tornadoes couldnt some hit the ice wall , Also comets if one shot by, or a "shoot-star" shot by I would be able to see it for much longer wouldnt I? Also please explain Earthquakes and tsunamis for FE Also since the ice wall is close to shore and has to be a dome under and around the earth wouldnt Tsunamis be able to go over it?
Well no one has responded so its either late or... they cant answer the questions im a go with the first because they say check the FAQ a lot which i tried to made sure the FAQ did not involve these

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Re: The Earth really is flat!
« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2009, 04:24:56 PM »
Now if them Earth "is" flat, than please because of the continental plates of Russia and Canada if were to be moving towards each other on the RE than on the flat earth wouldnt the plates be heading for the ice wall, causing some serious problems and the continetal plates spilting wouldnt that be spliting the earth if it is flat and not as thick as RE is?.. also what about erosion wouldnt that effect the ice wall since it is a mountain range, and also global warming is the earth is a disc than if global warming is happening than such as a RE tho arent we all at risk if there is serious global warming of drowing than that possible going over the Ice Wall and spilling out, than a meteror couldnt that break the flat earth wall and also, Mount Everst would be possible to see with a telescope but we can't on a flat earth and it must be round and no the FAQ from what i see doesnt answer these questions. Also from when the Earth started Im pretty sure the waters and everything were very hot, with lava and everything so it could possiblely melt the Ice wall and again dinosaurs when the meteror hit what happened to the Ice wall than? Now tornadoes couldnt some hit the ice wall , Also comets if one shot by, or a "shoot-star" shot by I would be able to see it for much longer wouldnt I? Also please explain Earthquakes and tsunamis for FE Also since the ice wall is close to shore and has to be a dome under and around the earth wouldnt Tsunamis be able to go over it?
Repost in english and you might get a serious response. I'm a RE supporter and I'm not even going to try and get anything out of this because I can't even read it.
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Re: The Earth really is flat!
« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2009, 05:16:41 PM »
the problem with the sun that size isnt that something cant heat the earth from that distance,

i posted this in another thread

unless the sun is really dense, it doesnt seem the right size to fit how much H2 He, and Li it has.  And if it is that dense, it would have burned out a long time ago.  if it isnt that dense, then the fusion reactions would occur too infrequently for it to give off much heat at all (and probably never have Li inside it at all).

Basically, the sun is nearly the heat it needs to do the fusion reactions, so it does it by the ever elusive quantum tunneling.  The amount of particles is sufficient to keep this going at a healthy rate (it wont burn out in 2 seconds, burn us, or keep us cold).  However, a denser sun would be hotter

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Re: The Earth really is flat!
« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2009, 05:19:07 PM »
the problem with the sun that size isnt that something cant heat the earth from that distance,

i posted this in another thread

unless the sun is really dense, it doesnt seem the right size to fit how much H2 He, and Li it has.  And if it is that dense, it would have burned out a long time ago.

What direct evidence do you have in support of that conclusion?
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: The Earth really is flat!
« Reply #44 on: May 19, 2009, 05:56:35 PM »
the problem with the sun that size isnt that something cant heat the earth from that distance,

i posted this in another thread

unless the sun is really dense, it doesnt seem the right size to fit how much H2 He, and Li it has.  And if it is that dense, it would have burned out a long time ago.

What direct evidence do you have in support of that conclusion?

Also, since when is Lithium a principal component of the sun? Actually, I don't recall Li ever being mentioned at all in the sun's composition.

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Re: The Earth really is flat!
« Reply #45 on: May 19, 2009, 06:11:46 PM »
the problem with the sun that size isnt that something cant heat the earth from that distance,

i posted this in another thread

unless the sun is really dense, it doesnt seem the right size to fit how much H2 He, and Li it has.  And if it is that dense, it would have burned out a long time ago.

What direct evidence do you have in support of that conclusion?

Also, since when is Lithium a principal component of the sun? Actually, I don't recall Li ever being mentioned at all in the sun's composition.

the He-H fusion is rare, but it does happen.  I dont know if there is anything heavier than Li in the sun.

the problem with the sun that size isnt that something cant heat the earth from that distance,

i posted this in another thread

unless the sun is really dense, it doesnt seem the right size to fit how much H2 He, and Li it has.  And if it is that dense, it would have burned out a long time ago.

What direct evidence do you have in support of that conclusion?


it was a homework problem i had, ill dig it up if i can find it.  It didnt involve information that isnt readily measureable, like the power, and the frequency spectrum.

But you could agree that the more dense the sun is, the hotter it is, right?  Approaching the energy required for the fusion
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