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giddsey

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Only asking...
« on: April 25, 2009, 04:29:56 PM »
Right, I'm prolly letting myself in for some almighty abuse here but I've gotta ask this question.
Isn't it a bit racist on this forum?
I may not be getting the whole picture but what would you do if i said i was a Jew or a blackman?
I'm expecting some shit from some of you here but please could at least one of you answer seriously.
I'm sure the answers will be very humourous to many of you here and don't get me wrong, I'm not making a stand, i just gotta know for my own sake.
Am i missing something? Is it just satirical humour? Are you all deeply religious?
I really don't get it.
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Re: Only asking...
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2009, 05:35:01 PM »
Racism is supposed to be against the rules, but some people get away with it. 
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2009, 05:55:30 PM »
thank you for answering
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2009, 06:13:45 PM »
I'd say that racist jokes are acceptable as long as there is no actual hate message. If someone took offense and complained, I'd be much more inclined to delete the post in question.
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2009, 06:17:51 PM »
so it stays because no-one complains or reports it.
Thank you for answering btw
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2009, 06:21:35 PM »
IF we can't be racist on the internet, where can we be racist outside klan meetings?

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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2009, 06:26:24 PM »
Intent is everything.  I can call everyone a nigger if I wanted to, but it's a hollow word unless backed by sincerity.
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2009, 06:29:27 PM »
I'm not racist, I eat Chinese food.

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Re: Only asking...
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2009, 06:41:58 PM »
Right, I'm prolly letting myself in for some almighty abuse here but I've gotta ask this question.
Isn't it a bit racist on this forum?
I may not be getting the whole picture but what would you do if i said i was a Jew or a blackman?
I'm expecting some shit from some of you here but please could at least one of you answer seriously.
I'm sure the answers will be very humourous to many of you here and don't get me wrong, I'm not making a stand, i just gotta know for my own sake.
Am i missing something? Is it just satirical humour? Are you all deeply religious?
I really don't get it.

Shut the fuck up niggerjewspickkikefag, we aren't racist I own a color t.v.


The actual reason is, usually racism here is meant to be ironic. It is funny because truthfully most people here are about as tolerant as they come. Racism has a place in todays society because it is generally used as a medium for discussion of tolerance and differences in views.
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Re: Only asking...
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2009, 07:06:18 PM »
i have no problem with casual racism that stems from a sociological experience. It is indeed a part of life and society. The discussion of race where all are allowed to speak freely using slang and terminology akin to their education and upbringing without fear of ridicule or misunderstanding is welcomed in my book. It does seem though that the underlying theme of some posters comments are genuinely racist in content.
The whole aspect of FES that invites debate and free thinking is indeed a marvellous thing that i guess cannot be too restrictive in free speaking. I do get it most of the time, but i still do wonder, to go back to my original question, what someone jewish or black may think reading some of the stuff printed here. Sometimes the irony is lost on me.

"Most people here are about as tolerant as they come"

Yes they would seem to be.
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2009, 07:07:12 PM »
Intent is everything.  I can call everyone a nigger if I wanted to, but it's a hollow word unless backed by sincerity.

therefore its justs jokes right?
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2009, 07:08:07 PM »
IF we can't be racist on the internet, where can we be racist outside klan meetings?

shit joke

I'm not racist, I eat Chinese food.

shit joke
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2009, 07:08:58 PM »
Intent is everything.  I can call everyone a nigger if I wanted to, but it's a hollow word unless backed by sincerity.

therefore its justs jokes right?

Yes it is. The only people that take offense to racism are the ones that want to be offended.
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2009, 07:12:11 PM »
Intent is everything.  I can call everyone a nigger if I wanted to, but it's a hollow word unless backed by sincerity.

therefore its justs jokes right?

Yes it is. The only people that take offense to racism are the ones that want to be offended.

How so?
you mean it is impossible to be offended by racism without inviting it?
How so?
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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2009, 07:19:55 PM »
Intent is everything.  I can call everyone a nigger if I wanted to, but it's a hollow word unless backed by sincerity.

therefore its justs jokes right?

Yes it is. The only people that take offense to racism are the ones that want to be offended.

How so?
you mean it is impossible to be offended by racism without inviting it?
How so?


Race is nearly insignificant, I really see it as a non issue. In order for someone to be offended by racism they must think that race matters in some way. This would mean they have some inherent racism in them. (call it nationalism or "cultural heritage" it's still racism just in a different bundle) Words only have power if you give them power. A joke about blacks liking fried chicken and watermelon really doesn't mean much considering the fact that everyone loves fried chicken and watermelon. Blacks are free to make jokes about me being white and in fact I'd expect it.

Athalus was the only actual racist here, and that was probably just him trolling. He was eventually banned for his blatant racism. Serious racism isn't accepted here, and I'm sure if when you get to better know the posters you'll realize most of them are joking. Take proleg for instance, look up oscar wilde, that was his old account.

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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2009, 07:21:14 PM »
IF we can't be racist on the internet, where can we be racist outside klan meetings?

shit joke

I'm not racist, I eat Chinese food.

shit joke
I knew the first one was shit, but I liked the second one.

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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2009, 07:49:26 PM »
Intent is everything.  I can call everyone a nigger if I wanted to, but it's a hollow word unless backed by sincerity.

therefore its justs jokes right?

Yes it is. The only people that take offense to racism are the ones that want to be offended.

How so?
you mean it is impossible to be offended by racism without inviting it?
How so?


Race is nearly insignificant, I really see it as a non issue. In order for someone to be offended by racism they must think that race matters in some way. This would mean they have some inherent racism in them.


'nearly insignificant', strange phrase.
Indeed race does matter in respect of culture, and to be offended by racism is possible, yes.
Having some inherant racism in them, yes also.
I'lll take your word most are joking.
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Re: Only asking...
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2009, 07:50:02 PM »
IF we can't be racist on the internet, where can we be racist outside klan meetings?

shit joke

I'm not racist, I eat Chinese food.

shit joke
I knew the first one was shit, but I liked the second one.

it was slightly better but still shit
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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2009, 08:06:01 PM »
Intent is everything.  I can call everyone a nigger if I wanted to, but it's a hollow word unless backed by sincerity.

therefore its justs jokes right?

You could say that, I guess.  Joke would imply it's supposed to be funny, though.  Most of the time I use racism just to be ironic.

Athalus was the only actual racist here, and that was probably just him trolling. He was eventually banned for his blatant racism. Serious racism isn't accepted here, and I'm sure if when you get to better know the posters you'll realize most of them are joking. Take proleg for instance, look up oscar wilde, that was his old account.

I'm pretty sure 17 November/Dionysus/Areopagite got banned for racist comments at least once.  I don't think he an Athalus are the same, but it's possible I guess.  But either way he is incredibly racist, not to mention probably a mental ward escapee.
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Re: Only asking...
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2009, 08:07:19 PM »
Intent is everything.  I can call everyone a nigger if I wanted to, but it's a hollow word unless backed by sincerity.

therefore its justs jokes right?

Yes it is. The only people that take offense to racism are the ones that want to be offended.

How so?
you mean it is impossible to be offended by racism without inviting it?
How so?


Race is nearly insignificant, I really see it as a non issue. In order for someone to be offended by racism they must think that race matters in some way. This would mean they have some inherent racism in them.


'nearly insignificant', strange phrase.
Indeed race does matter in respect of culture, and to be offended by racism is possible, yes.
Having some inherant racism in them, yes also.
I'lll take your word most are joking.

Yes nearly insignificant. Race does determine genes to some point so it does bring out some differences. Blacks tend to be more prone to crimes of passion, but are generally do not have serial killers. Claiming "cultural heritage" to back your racism is just an excuse to claim racial superiority. If you want to be equal you have to accept equality.

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« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2009, 09:24:15 PM »
A good example of this race issue was shown in a series called "Black and White" I believe. We watched it in my Sociology class and it was about these two families living together and then having the opposite family's race spray painted onto them. The black family was really racist, and they found racism in everything or rather they were always looking for racism. Aner example, the black guy was in white makeup and went to a pro shop(golf store) and was shocked that someone put the shoes he was trying on, onto his feet. 
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« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2009, 11:15:58 PM »
Racism is supposed to be against the rules, but some people get away with it. 
I seriously don't know why racist jokes are tolerated. I remember there were occasions where people get banned for saying "nigger" before I was a mod. I never believe in "race", and I never tolerate racism. The rules, as put up by Daniel, never stated only racist jokes are allowed. I don't think it'll be pleasant if people constantly put up racial slurs and imply it as a "joke." The boards wouldn't look so friendly in the long run.
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« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2009, 02:25:29 AM »
Racism is supposed to be against the rules, but some people get away with it. 
I seriously don't know why racist jokes are tolerated. I remember there were occasions where people get banned for saying "nigger" before I was a mod. I never believe in "race", and I never tolerate racism. The rules, as put up by Daniel, never stated only racist jokes are allowed. I don't think it'll be pleasant if people constantly put up racial slurs and imply it as a "joke." The boards wouldn't look so friendly in the long run.

I've been here longer than you and don't know anyone that was banned simply for the use of the word nigger. Real racism is not tolerated, racist jokes kept to a joke thread are no worse than misogyny, the use of puns, dead baby jokes, sexual jokes, or truthfully any other form of humor used by adults. Jokes are a means of bringing taboo subjects to the light of day and allowing open discussion of them. If you can not joke on a subject you can not easily talk about something in a reasoned manner.

Any subject that can not be openly joked about will instantly bring about knee jerk reactions in a debate and keep the debate purely emotional.

Actual racism has no place in the forums hence althalus being repeatedly banned.

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Re: Only asking...
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2009, 06:09:13 AM »
Right, I'm prolly letting myself in for some almighty abuse here but I've gotta ask this question.
Isn't it a bit racist on this forum?
I may not be getting the whole picture but what would you do if i said i was a Jew or a blackman?
I'm expecting some shit from some of you here but please could at least one of you answer seriously.
I'm sure the answers will be very humourous to many of you here and don't get me wrong, I'm not making a stand, i just gotta know for my own sake.
Am i missing something? Is it just satirical humour? Are you all deeply religious?
I really don't get it.


We are simply taking advantage of the fact that the mods don't care about racist jokes. I at least like a bit darker humour, like racist or otherwise bigoted humour. I have plenty of friends from other nationalities and religions than my own, and I don't see myself as a racist or a bigot, I just like nigger jokes. I enjoy the freedom this forum gives me from the political correctness required in other areas. If you said you were a jew or black, I wouldn't react very strongly, except for perhaps reassuring you that I don't make nigger jokes in any serious sense.
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« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2009, 06:37:45 AM »
We are simply taking advantage of the fact that the mods don't care about racist jokes. I at least like a bit darker humour, like racist or otherwise bigoted humour. I have plenty of friends from other nationalities and religions than my own, and I don't see myself as a racist or a bigot, I just like nigger jokes. I enjoy the freedom this forum gives me from the political correctness required in other areas. If you said you were a jew or black, I wouldn't react very strongly, except for perhaps reassuring you that I don't make nigger jokes in any serious sense.

I agree completely.
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« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2009, 06:47:49 AM »
I've always figured that by saying words that are attached to hatred repeatedly we rob them of their hatred. Anyone here is at any time free to report me or PM me any issues they have. They just  never choose to.

That I've been informed of.
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« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2009, 06:57:49 AM »
I've always figured that by saying words that are attached to hatred repeatedly we rob them of their hatred. Anyone here is at any time free to report me or PM me any issues they have. They just  never choose to.

That I've been informed of.

The word "of" offends me. I have reported your post for using offensive language.
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« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2009, 07:01:26 AM »
I've always figured that by saying words that are attached to hatred repeatedly we rob them of their hatred. Anyone here is at any time free to report me or PM me any issues they have. They just  never choose to.

That I've been informed of.

The word "of" offends me. I have reported your post for using offensive language.

If you could prove to me that you were legitimately offended I would gladly issue an apology. Otherwise, stfu, jew.
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« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2009, 07:12:43 AM »
If you could prove to me that you were legitimately offended I would gladly issue an apology. Otherwise, stfu, jew.

Here is a picture (expletive deleted) me after reading your post:

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« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2009, 09:45:38 AM »
Also, jack you may be a bit new to remember N.I.G.G.A. No one was ever banned for that.