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erm horizon?
« on: April 23, 2009, 06:21:45 AM »
k the search thing wasnt workin.. but i checked the FAQ and couldnt find it
so even tho some1 probably asked it, im gonna ask it again cause im curious

how do u explain the horizon? obviously im talkin about true horizon like u would see at sea..

and how do u explain how the higher up u go the further away the horizon gets..
thanks..


o yeah.. "Some believe it to be just rocks, while others believe the Earth rests on the back of four elephants and a turtle."
no offence intended if ur not.. but u must be takin the piss with that?
and the anti-moon causin the tides as well.. i did rofl..
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2009, 06:26:29 AM »
k the brain thing wasnt workin.. but i checked the manual and couldnt find it
so even tho some1 probably figured it out, im gonna ask it again cause im curious

how do u type coherently? obviously ur talkin about makin sentences like u would see in a book..

and how do u explain the use of apostrophe's in words..
thanks..


o yeah.. "Some believe it is good practice to capitalise the first letters of words, others just don't give a fuck."
no offence intended if ur not.. but u must be takin the piss outta ppl like me with that?
and the shift key causin the capitolization as well.. i did rofl..
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2009, 06:44:33 AM »
 ::)

As for the 4 elephants and  a turtle thing, it is just sort of a joke, there are very few if any FE believers who believe that anymore. I have also heard that it is from an ancient religious (possibly Hindu) belief.

As for the other part of your question, I'm not sure I fully understand it, but I would say it is probably because of atmospheric diffraction/"bendy light."

Also, Robo is right. If you would like to get less trolled, and more answers, don't type on here like you would some text message. Welcome to the forum's!  :D
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2009, 07:10:29 AM »
Quote from: Henrythecamel on April 23, 2009, 06:21:45 AM
k the search thing wasnt workin.. but i checked the FAQ and couldnt find it
so even tho some1 probably asked it, im gonna ask it again cause im curious

how do u explain the horizon? obviously im talkin about true horizon like u would see at sea..

and how do u explain how the higher up u go the further away the horizon gets..
thanks..


o yeah.. "Some believe it to be just rocks, while others believe the Earth rests on the back of four elephants and a turtle."
no offence intended if ur not.. but u must be takin the piss with that?
and the anti-moon causin the tides as well.. i did rofl..
What language is this?

The erm does not have a horizon.......What is an erm??????
« Last Edit: April 23, 2009, 07:12:38 AM by spanner34.5 »
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2009, 07:43:26 AM »
lol.. ad hominems aside
is any1 gonna actually answer my question?.. or just fail at abusin me cause i cba to use correct grammar on an online forum..
its not like im writin my cv ere :P
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2009, 07:45:03 AM »
Quote from: Henrythecamel on April 23, 2009, 07:43:26 AM
lol.. ad hominems aside
is any1 gonna actually answer my question?.. or just fail at abusin me cause i cba to use correct grammar on an online forum..
its not like im writin my cv ere :P

I'm sorry, I cba to answer your question. Now go fuck yourself.
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2009, 07:47:36 AM »
Quote from: Henrythecamel on April 23, 2009, 07:43:26 AM
lol.. ad hominems aside
is any1 gonna actually answer my question?.. or just fail at abusin me cause i cba to use correct grammar on an online forum..
its not like im writin my cv ere :P
42 I think, if I understood the question correctly.
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2009, 07:51:30 AM »
yes robo.. iv alrdy established u fail
well done, ur a pointless prick..


physics101 seemed to have a level of maturity and IQ above that of a 5 year old..
maybe he could answer the question..


i mean its a pretty blatent flaw in this flat earth idea if u cant explain the horizon..
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2009, 07:54:55 AM »
Quote from: physics101 on April 23, 2009, 06:44:33 AM
it is probably because of atmospheric diffraction/"bendy light."

This tricks our eyes into seeing something that perhaps isn't actually happening.
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2009, 07:55:42 AM »
My I.Q. is 85


Sorry, wrong post
« Last Edit: April 23, 2009, 08:01:16 AM by spanner34.5 »
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2009, 07:58:55 AM »
Quote from: Henrythecamel on April 23, 2009, 06:21:45 AM
how do u explain the horizon? obviously im talkin about true horizon like u would see at sea..

"In many contexts, especially perspective drawing, the curvature of the earth is typically disregarded and the horizon is considered the theoretical line to which points on any horizontal plane converge (when projected onto the picture plane) as their distance from the observer increases. Note that, for observers near the ground, the difference between this geometrical horizon (which assumes a perfectly flat, infinite ground plane) and the true horizon (which assumes a spherical Earth surface) is typically imperceptibly small, because of the relative size of the observer. That is, if the Earth were truly flat, there would still be a visible horizon line, and, to ground based viewers, its position and appearance would not be significantly different from what we see on our curved Earth."
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2009, 08:13:01 AM »
ok thanks for the sensible responses.. i think


"and, to ground based viewers..."
which is y i asked about it gettin further away as u get higher up..
obviously, as things look smaller as u move away from them, eventually u would get an horizon effect.. (would rather u didnt copy/paste from wiki >_> )
but that doesnt explain how the horizon gets further away as u get higher.. or even why i cant see past the horizon with a telescope..
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2009, 08:17:15 AM »
Quote from: Henrythecamel on April 23, 2009, 08:13:01 AM
ok thanks for the sensible responses.. i think


"and, to ground based viewers..."
which is y i asked about it gettin further away as u get higher up..
obviously, as things look smaller as u move away from them, eventually u would get an horizon effect.. (would rather u didnt copy/paste from wiki >_> )
but that doesnt explain how the horizon gets further away as u get higher.. or even why i cant see past the horizon with a telescope..

Atmospheric diffraction/"bendy light" is the right response this time I think. The atmosphere isn't perfectly transparent so it affects (effects?) what our eyes see.
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2009, 08:25:28 AM »
Quote from: Henrythecamel on April 23, 2009, 08:13:01 AM
or even why i cant see past the horizon with a telescope..

With and without a telescope, there still exists a vanishing point.
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2009, 08:45:50 AM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on April 23, 2009, 08:25:28 AM

With and without a telescope, there still exists a vanishing point.


yeah? im confused how thats not an argument for a round earth

just think about it.. in a plane, u cant see past the horizon, even tho the earth has a "Circumference: 78225 miles" ...but the moon, which is much smaller and at a distance further than the horizon, is perfectly visible most of the time..
even if u say its because the moon is bright.. theres still loads of lights over the horizon u should be able to see..

just doesnt add up to me..
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2009, 10:09:12 AM »
Quote from: Henrythecamel on April 23, 2009, 08:45:50 AM
yeah? im confused how thats not an argument for a round earth

It doesn't argue for either. No matter the shape of the Earth, there is a limit to how far you can see.
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2009, 10:16:24 AM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on April 23, 2009, 10:09:12 AM

It doesn't argue for either. No matter the shape of the Earth, there is a limit to how far you can see.


sigh.. then why can u see the moon, which is much further away than the horizon?
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2009, 10:18:25 AM »
Quote from: Henrythecamel on April 23, 2009, 10:16:24 AM
sigh.. then why can u see the moon, which is much further away than the horizon?

Atmosphere is a gradient.
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2009, 10:23:21 AM »
Quote from: physics101 on April 23, 2009, 08:17:15 AM
Quote from: Henrythecamel on April 23, 2009, 08:13:01 AM
ok thanks for the sensible responses.. i think


"and, to ground based viewers..."
which is y i asked about it gettin further away as u get higher up..
obviously, as things look smaller as u move away from them, eventually u would get an horizon effect.. (would rather u didnt copy/paste from wiki >_> )
but that doesnt explain how the horizon gets further away as u get higher.. or even why i cant see past the horizon with a telescope..

Atmospheric diffraction/"bendy light" is the right response this time I think. The atmosphere isn't perfectly transparent so it affects (effects?) what our eyes see.
Sometimes bendy light goes wrong.......mirages
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2009, 10:31:14 AM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on April 23, 2009, 10:18:25 AM

Atmosphere is a gradient.


im gonna ask for the science behind that idea.. but im not gettin my hopes up..

also any explanation for when the moon is lower in the sky.. obviously this random atmosphere that makes the bendy light would have a huge effect of that considerin how much further away the moon is.. but u can see it perfectly? not even a slight distortion of its spherical shape..
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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2009, 10:38:28 AM »
Quote from: Henrythecamel on April 23, 2009, 10:31:14 AM
im gonna ask for the science behind that idea.. but im not gettin my hopes up..

Fluid mechanics.
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2009, 10:59:18 AM »
Quote from: Robosteve on April 23, 2009, 10:38:28 AM

Fluid mechanics.


fair enough.. thought it was gonna be somethin like that..

im definetely not an expert on this subject but from what i remember from school.. the light only experiences "bendin" (refraction?.. i got bad memory) when in enters or exits a fluid..
as we r in the atmosphere and the stuff over the horizon is in the same atmosphere this shouldnt happen?


eitherway it doesnt answer what i said about the low moon.. (not that an atmospheric gradient really answers the question about a high moon either but nevermind)
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« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2009, 11:00:45 AM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on April 23, 2009, 10:18:25 AM
Atmosphere is a gradient.

Wow. Just wow.

Quote from: Robosteve on April 23, 2009, 10:38:28 AM
Quote from: Henrythecamel on April 23, 2009, 10:31:14 AM
im gonna ask for the science behind that idea.. but im not gettin my hopes up..

Fluid mechanics.

erm. I doubt it. There's no fluid in motion in this situation.
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« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2009, 11:02:26 AM »
Quote from: liedetector on April 23, 2009, 11:00:45 AM
erm. I doubt it. There's no fluid in motion in this situation.

I said "fluid mechanics", not "fluid dynamics". There's a big difference.
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« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2009, 11:06:43 AM »
Quote from: Robosteve on April 23, 2009, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: liedetector on April 23, 2009, 11:00:45 AM
erm. I doubt it. There's no fluid in motion in this situation.

I said "fluid mechanics", not "fluid dynamics". There's a big difference.

I doubt it. Unless you can show how fluid mechanics solves the problem (namely "Atmosphere is a gradient.") then you're wasting time.
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2009, 11:28:44 AM »
Quote from: Robosteve on April 23, 2009, 06:26:29 AM
k the brain thing wasnt workin.. but i checked the manual and couldnt find it
so even tho some1 probably figured it out, im gonna ask it again cause im curious

how do u type coherently? obviously ur talkin about makin sentences like u would see in a book..

and how do u explain the use of apostrophe's in words..
thanks..


o yeah.. "Some believe it is good practice to capitalise the first letters of words, others just don't give a fuck."
no offence intended if ur not.. but u must be takin the piss outta ppl like me with that?
and the shift key causin the capitolization as well.. i did rofl..

An elegant remark Steven, as always...  :D
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2009, 11:50:50 AM »
so far all the responses iv gotten r ad hominems, answers which only make sense after we throw science out the window or just completely pointless offtopic comments..


im askin really simple questions >_>
its not like im even askin for detailed mathematics and the scientific test some1 must have conducted that would show atmosphere bends light..

im just askin stuff that simple logic should be able to answer..


such fail..



altho, hats off to this ability to believe anythin.. regardless of the lack of evidence and logic..

hf gl bb.. im off, this is pointless..
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« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2009, 12:02:49 PM »
Quote from: Henrythecamel on April 23, 2009, 11:50:50 AM
so far all the responses iv gotten r ad hominems, answers which only make sense after we throw science out the window or just completely pointless offtopic comments..


im askin really simple questions >_>
its not like im even askin for detailed mathematics and the scientific test some1 must have conducted that would show atmosphere bends light..

im just askin stuff that simple logic should be able to answer..


such fail..



altho, hats off to this ability to believe anythin.. regardless of the lack of evidence and logic..

hf gl bb.. im off, this is pointless..

Have fun? Good Luck? Bye-bye? I figured it out, seriously though, it's like trying to read some idiot teenagers text message.
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Re: erm horizon?
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2009, 01:22:05 PM »
Quote from: Henrythecamel on April 23, 2009, 10:31:14 AM
Quote from: divito the truthist on April 23, 2009, 10:18:25 AM

Atmosphere is a gradient.


im gonna ask for the science behind that idea.. but im not gettin my hopes up..

also any explanation for when the moon is lower in the sky.. obviously this random atmosphere that makes the bendy light would have a huge effect of that considerin how much further away the moon is.. but u can see it perfectly? not even a slight distortion of its spherical shape..
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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2009, 01:32:02 PM »
Quote from: markjo on April 23, 2009, 01:22:05 PM
Quote from: Henrythecamel on April 23, 2009, 10:31:14 AM
Quote from: divito the truthist on April 23, 2009, 10:18:25 AM

Atmosphere is a gradient.


im gonna ask for the science behind that idea.. but im not gettin my hopes up..

also any explanation for when the moon is lower in the sky.. obviously this random atmosphere that makes the bendy light would have a huge effect of that considerin how much further away the moon is.. but u can see it perfectly? not even a slight distortion of its spherical shape..


Pictures arent proof! You should know this by now  :P

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