Lunar Eclipse

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Symon

Lunar Eclipse
« on: April 20, 2009, 07:56:19 PM »
Ok, I heard about the Flat Eart Society in class today and decided to google it and came across this site. I think one thing that proove's your theory wrong is a lunar Eclipse. Yes, I read the FAQ, and found this:


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Q: "What about Lunar Eclipses and Moon Phases?"

A: An invisible celestial body, known as the Shadow Object, passes between the sun and moon during a Lunar Eclipse. This projects a shadow upon the moon.


Now come on. A invisible object that casts a shadow? Last time I checked, invisible objects dont cast shadows. Are you guys just coming up with this as you go along? Something smells fishy to me, and the Earth clearly casts a shadow on the moon, and If you will notice, this shadow is round. And here is proof:



Ok, so you may think that someone clearly faked this photo, to try to trick us all. Well, the good thing about it is that you can see these Lunar Eclipses for yourself. The next one is July 7, 2009.

Thoughts?

« Last Edit: April 20, 2009, 08:17:44 PM by Symon »

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zork

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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2009, 11:19:32 PM »
 Only one. The FE "shadow object" that comes between earth and moon must be quite big.
Rowbotham had bad eyesight
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2009, 11:49:40 PM »
The shadow object passes between the Sun and the Moon.
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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2009, 12:51:10 AM »
The shadow object passes between the Sun and the Moon.
For Sun to illuminate the Moon fully it must be below the Moon but that seems to be not the case as people argue in other topics about Sun eclipse. There is stated that moon is many times nearer for the Earth than the Sun. And the FAQ states that they are in same height. And that Sun is spotlight(how can it illuminate the Moon when it is spotlight). Can you at least come to conclusion and draw some simple sketch to show positions of the Sun and the Moon and how are they positioned at times of Lunar eclipses and Solar eclipses and what the Sun illuminates and what not.
Rowbotham had bad eyesight
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2009, 06:30:14 AM »
Can you at least come to conclusion and draw some simple sketch to show positions of the Sun and the Moon and how are they positioned at times of Lunar eclipses and Solar eclipses and what the Sun illuminates and what not.

You might just as well ask them to draw an accurate FE map.  In other words, this ain't gonna happen either.
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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2009, 09:03:21 PM »
I believe the moon emits it's own light. I see no reason why the moon couldn't pass in front of the sun.

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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2009, 11:22:57 PM »
I believe the moon emits it's own light. I see no reason why the moon couldn't pass in front of the sun.
The moon does emit a small amount of light.
I don't remember anything. Well, I do, but it's really vague. Like I was on drugs the whole time.

Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2009, 05:53:57 PM »
The shadow object passes between the Sun and the Moon.

Umm....I donno about you but I'm fairly sure that shadows are not objects.

You can do this one at home kids! On a sunny day get an umbrella. Then open it. You will see that the umbrella will make a shadow. A shadow can't make its self because a shadow is just blocked light.

What have we learned today children?

SHADOW OBJECTS ARE STUPID!!! YAY!!!
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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2009, 05:58:26 PM »
Lunar eclipses have been discussed so many times.

And FE are still getting trouble to explain it logically. As long as nobody detects it directly, your shadow object argument isn't credible at all.
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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2009, 06:48:47 PM »
I believe the moon emits it's own light. I see no reason why the moon couldn't pass in front of the sun.

The moon does pass in front of the sun.  It's called a solar eclipse.  Since this thread is about lunar eclipses, I'm not sure what your point is supposed to be.  ???
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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2009, 12:55:34 AM »
I believe the moon emits it's own light. I see no reason why the moon couldn't pass in front of the sun.
The moon does emit a small amount of light.
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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2009, 05:07:43 AM »
I believe the moon emits it's own light. I see no reason why the moon couldn't pass in front of the sun.
The moon does emit a small amount of light.
*facepalm*

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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2009, 06:15:47 AM »
I've always seen a problem with Lunar eclipses when you consider a FE model and bendy light. Light from the Sun would have to be emitted angled slightly down for it to be bent up and hit the Moon. A problem arises when you get a full Moon during the winter months of the Northern hemisphere. The path that light would have to follow to reach the Moon would have to be angled so far down that the Earth would get in the way of the curve to the Moon and block the light.

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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2009, 06:21:56 AM »
I've always seen a problem with Lunar eclipses when you consider a FE model and bendy light. Light from the Sun would have to be emitted angled slightly down for it to be bent up and hit the Moon. A problem arises when you get a full Moon during the winter months of the Northern hemisphere. The path that light would have to follow to reach the Moon would have to be angled so far down that the Earth would get in the way of the curve to the Moon and block the light.

Did you use Euclid's equation to come to this conclusion?
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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2009, 06:28:44 AM »
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Did you use Euclid's equation to come to this conclusion?

Nope, but I imagine that there would be much the same problem if I did. At some point the FE moon is going to pass through the 'shadow' of the FE earth.

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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2009, 06:40:46 AM »
Nope, but I imagine that there would be much the same problem if I did.

Then how did you come to your conclusion? I haven't yet published my own mathematical analysis.
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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2009, 07:36:54 AM »
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Then how did you come to your conclusion? I haven't yet published my own mathematical analysis.

I've drawn up a diagram of what I mean.



Because of the light bending up, the night side of the planet essentially casts a shadow, which the moon may fall into, especially during the winter months of the Northern hemisphere when the Sun and Moon are at a greater distance from the North pole.

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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2009, 07:42:07 AM »
I've drawn up a diagram of what I mean.



Because of the light bending up, the night side of the planet essentially casts a shadow, which the moon may fall into, especially during the winter months of the Northern hemisphere when the Sun and Moon are at a greater distance from the North pole.

I know what you mean. How have you determined the distance by which light would need to deviate from a straight line in order to reach the Moon?
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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2009, 07:58:30 AM »
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I know what you mean. How have you determined the distance by which light would need to deviate from a straight line in order to reach the Moon?

Well, I figure that in order to travel a distance of twice the radius of the Sun's spotlight, it would have to deviate all the way down to the surface of the Earth. Any further, and it would have to deviate below the surface of the Earth, which it can't do as the Earth's in the way.

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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2009, 09:41:43 AM »
Lunar eclipses have been discussed so many times.

And FE are still getting trouble to explain it logically. As long as nobody detects it directly, your shadow object argument isn't credible at all.

We observe a shadow in front of the moon, and conclude that an object has blocked the light from the moon. RET suggests that this object is the earth, FET believes it to be an entirely different object.

Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2009, 07:34:05 AM »
I believe the moon emits it's own light. I see no reason why the moon couldn't pass in front of the sun.

"The moon is the brightest object in the night sky but gives off no light of its own. Instead, it reflects light from the sun."

http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/moon_worldbook.html


Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2009, 07:13:29 AM »
I believe the moon emits it's own light. I see no reason why the moon couldn't pass in front of the sun.

"The moon is the brightest object in the night sky but gives off no light of its own. Instead, it reflects light from the sun."

http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/moon_worldbook.html



Big mistake, using NASA. Every FEer and their mother will complain about this.

Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2009, 04:28:08 PM »
Uh... question:

If the object that gets in between the Sun and the Moon to cause a lunar eclipse is "invisible," and nobody has managed to pinpoint exactly what or where it is, how is it that we are able to predict lunar eclipses with perfect accuracy? 

Please explain how to predict a lunar eclipse without the use of any RE theory.

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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2009, 04:53:53 PM »
They have a very distinct pattern, just like in RET.
I don't remember anything. Well, I do, but it's really vague. Like I was on drugs the whole time.

Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2009, 05:10:43 PM »
They have a very distinct pattern, just like in RET.
Fantastic!!! If it's very distinct, then a knowledgeable fellow like yourself should have no problem describing that pattern.  I'm all ears.

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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2009, 06:19:44 PM »
Uh... question:

If the object that gets in between the Sun and the Moon to cause a lunar eclipse is "invisible," and nobody has managed to pinpoint exactly what or where it is, how is it that we are able to predict lunar eclipses with perfect accuracy? 

Please explain how to predict a lunar eclipse without the use of any RE theory.

Please explain how an invisible object can cast a shadow.
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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2009, 06:35:21 AM »
The whole shadow object notion is a fail concept concieved by someone that believes the earth is flat and has no idea how to explain an eclipse.

Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2009, 12:12:23 AM »
Lunar eclipses have been discussed so many times.

And FE are still getting trouble to explain it logically. As long as nobody detects it directly, your shadow object argument isn't credible at all.

We observe a shadow in front of the moon, and conclude that an object has blocked the light from the moon. RET suggests that this object is the earth, FET believes it to be an entirely different object.

OK, but what is this object. And before you say it, the FAQ is useless in this topic.

Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2009, 09:29:02 AM »
Uh... question:

If the object that gets in between the Sun and the Moon to cause a lunar eclipse is "invisible," and nobody has managed to pinpoint exactly what or where it is, how is it that we are able to predict lunar eclipses with perfect accuracy? 

Please explain how to predict a lunar eclipse without the use of any RE theory.

Please explain how an invisible object can cast a shadow.

It is impossible. This thread is ridiculous. No sane person viewing a lunar eclipse could conclude that the object moving in front of the sun is not the moon. It is clear to me that the person who created the theory is not *well* -- the bigger issue I have is with the people that have seemed to accept the theory as fact.

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Re: Lunar Eclipse
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2009, 01:33:34 PM »
It is impossible. This thread is ridiculous. No sane person viewing a lunar eclipse could conclude that the object moving in front of the sun is not the moon.
Hey genius, a lunar eclipse is when the Earth's shadow moves in front of the moon.