Using science to fight science

Lense vingetting is very often a problem in photography, and in layman terms that means that whenever you take a picture, the edges of it bend in towards the middle, less on an expensive lense, more on a cheaper, smaller lense.

Lense Vingetting is a function of the lense though, not the subject.

So a photo with the "curvature" in the lower half of the picture would actually include a curve going against the false curve caused by the lense.

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But that cannot be the basis of your reasoning. You cannot simply reject a theory because you can't see it.

Sure I can. If you can't see it and if you can't detect it then it's not valid for consideration. It's about as credible as the idea of ghosts are. It's as simple as that.

1)  You can't see or detect a "shadow object" because it's supposedly invisible. (Invisible, but casts a shadow, unlike every other invisible thing.) Yet you base this whole theory on that thing you cannot see or detect.

2)  You have never seen an "ice wall" -- merely pictures of the edge of an ice shelf -- yet you base your whole theory on its existence. (Pictures showing earth's curvature don't count, but pictures of the ice shelf count in order to call it an ice wall.)

3)  You have never measured the moon, yet you accept as fact its measurement of 32 miles or some such thing. Same for the sun.

4)  You have never detected the "dark matter" holding the edges of your flat earth together, yet you believe in it completely.

5)  You have never detected the upward movement of earth in relation to a fixed point off of earth to confirm it, yet you blindly accept the idea that earth is rapidly moving upward to keep us from falling off.

Massive contradictions are rampant among Flat Earth theorists. With each thread I read, more come to light.

Massive contradictions are rampant among Flat Earth theorists. With each thread I read, more come to light.

This is because they're are several takes on the FE theory. Since it is not widely accepted, it is up to the FE believers, to find their own proof. Don't lump us all into one group, it's unfair. All it ends up doing ins making you look ignorant.

Quote from: DunkMe on April 09, 2009, 09:45:40 AM

Massive contradictions are rampant among Flat Earth theorists. With each thread I read, more come to light.

This is because they're are several takes on the FE theory. Since it is not widely accepted, it is up to the FE believers, to find their own proof. Don't lump us all into one group, it's unfair. All it ends up doing ins making you look ignorant.

Wow, something Anteater and I agree upon.

Quote from: Tom Bishop on April 08, 2009, 02:49:38 AM

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But that cannot be the basis of your reasoning. You cannot simply reject a theory because you can't see it.

Sure I can. If you can't see it and if you can't detect it then it's not valid for consideration. It's about as credible as the idea of ghosts are. It's as simple as that.

1)  You can't see or detect a "shadow object" because it's supposedly invisible. (Invisible, but casts a shadow, unlike every other invisible thing.) Yet you base this whole theory on that thing you cannot see or detect.

2)  You have never seen an "ice wall" -- merely pictures of the edge of an ice shelf -- yet you base your whole theory on its existence. (Pictures showing earth's curvature don't count, but pictures of the ice shelf count in order to call it an ice wall.)

3)  You have never measured the moon, yet you accept as fact its measurement of 32 miles or some such thing. Same for the sun.

4)  You have never detected the "dark matter" holding the edges of your flat earth together, yet you believe in it completely.

5)  You have never detected the upward movement of earth in relation to a fixed point off of earth to confirm it, yet you blindly accept the idea that earth is rapidly moving upward to keep us from falling off.

Massive contradictions are rampant among Flat Earth theorists. With each thread I read, more come to light.

But we see the effects of these,which is our methods of detecting them.

Quote from: DunkMe on April 09, 2009, 09:45:40 AM

Massive contradictions are rampant among Flat Earth theorists. With each thread I read, more come to light.

This is because they're are several takes on the FE theory. Since it is not widely accepted, it is up to the FE believers, to find their own proof. Don't lump us all into one group, it's unfair. All it ends up doing ins making you look ignorant.

Fair enough. I found the truth of this site through digging around enough anyway. It's just a mental exercise, and a game:

I doubt many people here believe in the Flat Earth.

I don't believe the earth is flat, no. I just started coming here because I enjoyed the debates, it makes have to question why I believe what I believe in the first place. In fact the majority of the people that post here regularly don't believe it is flat either.

I'm positive the earth is round, but at the same time I realize there is absolutely no way for me to "prove" it to someone who thinks it's flat.

Quote from: Anteater7171 on April 10, 2009, 12:22:58 AM

Quote from: DunkMe on April 09, 2009, 09:45:40 AM

Massive contradictions are rampant among Flat Earth theorists. With each thread I read, more come to light.

This is because they're are several takes on the FE theory. Since it is not widely accepted, it is up to the FE believers, to find their own proof. Don't lump us all into one group, it's unfair. All it ends up doing ins making you look ignorant.

Wow, something Anteater and I agree upon.

Quote from: DunkMe on April 09, 2009, 09:45:40 AM

Quote from: Tom Bishop on April 08, 2009, 02:49:38 AM

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But that cannot be the basis of your reasoning. You cannot simply reject a theory because you can't see it.

Sure I can. If you can't see it and if you can't detect it then it's not valid for consideration. It's about as credible as the idea of ghosts are. It's as simple as that.

1)  You can't see or detect a "shadow object" because it's supposedly invisible. (Invisible, but casts a shadow, unlike every other invisible thing.) Yet you base this whole theory on that thing you cannot see or detect.

2)  You have never seen an "ice wall" -- merely pictures of the edge of an ice shelf -- yet you base your whole theory on its existence. (Pictures showing earth's curvature don't count, but pictures of the ice shelf count in order to call it an ice wall.)

3)  You have never measured the moon, yet you accept as fact its measurement of 32 miles or some such thing. Same for the sun.

4)  You have never detected the "dark matter" holding the edges of your flat earth together, yet you believe in it completely.

5)  You have never detected the upward movement of earth in relation to a fixed point off of earth to confirm it, yet you blindly accept the idea that earth is rapidly moving upward to keep us from falling off.

Massive contradictions are rampant among Flat Earth theorists. With each thread I read, more come to light.

But we see the effects of these,which is our methods of detecting them.

What is your method of determining the cause of those effects?

Quote from: Anteater7171 on April 10, 2009, 12:22:58 AM

Quote from: DunkMe on April 09, 2009, 09:45:40 AM

Massive contradictions are rampant among Flat Earth theorists. With each thread I read, more come to light.

This is because they're are several takes on the FE theory. Since it is not widely accepted, it is up to the FE believers, to find their own proof. Don't lump us all into one group, it's unfair. All it ends up doing ins making you look ignorant.

Fair enough. I found the truth of this site through digging around enough anyway. It's just a mental exercise, and a game.

Uh no? I seriously believe the earth is flat.