BIG BANG.

Hello, I never seen this question in the FAQ so i thought I might as well throw it out there.

How did the Earth come to be flat? Everything else formed from the 'big bang' became spherical due to gravitational forces so why is the Earth the only body sans gravity?

Also, if the Earth is constantly rising, and presumably has been since the dawn of time, why hasnt it left the solar system, and/or crashed into the sun/moon/stars as its impossible that current velosity can be maintained for billions of years.

How did the Earth come to be flat? Everything else formed from the 'big bang' became spherical due to gravitational forces so why is the Earth the only body sans gravity?

First of all, the big bang theory is just that, a THEORY. The earth it the only body,that we know of,that is flat. It is also the only body, that we know of, with sentient beings on it. It is also the only body,that we know of, that is sans gravity.

Also, if the Earth is constantly rising, and presumably has been since the dawn of time, why hasnt it left the solar system, and/or crashed into the sun/moon/stars as its impossible that current velosity can be maintained for billions of years.

Everything else is rising as well. I believe it's impossible for us to be revolving and rotating for billions of years, as in the RET.

First of all, the big bang theory is just that, a THEORY.

That's what the Big Bang Theory and the Flat Earth Theory have in common...they're just theories.

The earth it the only body,that we know of,that is flat.

No, not "know", you assume it's flat.

It is also the only body, that we know of, with sentient beings on it. It is also the only body,that we know of, that is sans gravity.

What causes you to think other celestrial bodies have gravity?  I thought FEers didn't believe in gravity.  To FEers, what causes gravity?

Everything else is rising as well. I believe it's impossible for us to be revolving and rotating for billions of years, as in the RET.

So you admit that the Earth revolves and rotates. 

First of all, the big bang theory is just that, a THEORY.

That's what the Big Bang Theory and the Flat Earth Theory have in common...they're just theories.

Did I ever say otherwise?

The earth it the only body,that we know of,that is flat.

No, not "know", you assume it's flat.

I am sorry I misspoke....typed....whatever.

It is also the only body, that we know of, with sentient beings on it. It is also the only body,that we know of, that is sans gravity.

What causes you to think other celestrial bodies have gravity?  I thought FEers didn't believe in gravity.  To FEers, what causes gravity?

Sun/stars/moon have gravity which explains why you weigh less the higher elevation you are. Even RET doesn't have a solid explanation for gravity.

Everything else is rising as well. I believe it's impossible for us to be revolving and rotating for billions of years, as in the RET.

So you admit that the Earth revolves and rotates. 

In the RET, yes

Sun/stars/moon have gravity which explains why you weigh less the higher elevation you are. Even RET doesn't have a solid explanation for gravity.

What causes gravity in the Flat Earth universe?

In the RET, yes

So are you saying you believe in certain aspects of what REers believe?

Quote from: Waste of Mind on April 06, 2009, 05:02:57 PM

Sun/stars/moon have gravity which explains why you weigh less the higher elevation you are. Even RET doesn't have a solid explanation for gravity.

What causes gravity in the Flat Earth universe?

Quote from: Waste of Mind on April 06, 2009, 05:02:57 PM

In the RET, yes

So are you saying you believe in certain aspects of what REers believe?

1. Neither theory has a valid explanation of gravity.
2. Yes,but not in this instance. By the revolve and rotate comment, I was just pointing out that if UA was impossible due to something not maintaining that velocity for billions of years, the same logic could be applied to revolving and rotating in RET.

1. Neither theory has a valid explanation of gravity.

REers at least know that mass and distance cause gravity, but the reason why those cause gravity is unknown.  Although, wondering why mass and distance causes gravity is sort of looking too far into it.  It's sort of like asking why intense heat could cause a fire.

Quote from: Waste of Mind on April 06, 2009, 05:54:25 PM

1. Neither theory has a valid explanation of gravity.

REers at least know that mass and distance cause gravity, but the reason why those cause gravity is unknown.  Although, wondering why mass and distance causes gravity is sort of looking too far into it.  It's sort of like asking why intense heat could cause a fire.

Mass and distance are FACTORS of gravity,not the cause. Intense heat causes a fire,if there is fuel present. AFAIK gravity does not use fuel.

Mass and distance are FACTORS of gravity,not the cause. Intense heat causes a fire,if there is fuel present. AFAIK gravity does not use fuel.

My friend thinks gravity is caused by the Earth spinning, and I think it is caused by the Earth weighing so much we stick to it. Who is right?

You are correct. Gravity is caused by the mass of the Earth and has nothing to do with it's spinning. The spinning of the Earth actually reduces the "gravity" felt by someone at the equator as compared to someone at one of the poles. It is just one of the facts of the Universe that everything that weighs anything, pulls other matter towards it, and the more it weighs, the bigger the pull.

SOURCE: http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/qa_gp_gr.html#gravcause

"factor" and "cause" are basically the same thing.

I know mass attracts each other (usually), BUT WHY? By "cause" I am looking for the answer to that question.

Oh and i see NASA in that link, I totally believe it.

I know mass attracts each other (usually), BUT WHY? By "cause" I am looking for the answer to that question.

Oh and i see NASA in that link, I totally believe it.

No, what you're looking for is a more indepth reason, which could be done with just about everything.  I'm starting to look at the FE community as a little kid that keeps asking, "Why?, Why?, Why?".

Mass and distance is the cause of gravity, but you're looking for an answer as to why those two elements cause gravity.  You could only get the answer to something so far into it.

I can't even get an answer for "Why is the Earth supposedly flat."

I know mass attracts each other (usually), BUT WHY? By "cause" I am looking for the answer to that question.

Oh and i see NASA in that link, I totally believe it.

First: Not all questions starting with why, may not ever be answered.
If you want an answer, I can give this: "It does because it can."
Though I believe that we'll find a better explanation on why mass attracts each other in the near future.
The LHC may find some interesting stuff. The important thing is that we KNOW that mass attracts each other,
and math regarding gravity holds water. We're just missing a few pieces.

I think if it comes to a time where we're able to take a day to go up to the moon, which they think is impossible to do, and prove to them that our equations of gravity hold true here and the moon that they still wouldn't believe us.

If there is gravity on the moon and is also accelerating with the Earth...then we would weigh more on the moon than on the Earth.  That right there would prove that they're wrong.  Since they won't take the footage seriously, then we'll just have to wait until we could take one of them up there to prove it.  Although, then they'd probably call us wizards or something.

I know mass attracts each other

Well done. You have taken your first step towards rejecting Flat Earth nonsense.

Give him a round of applause everyone.

Nice job editing out the rest of the post. I've taken the liberty to try something similar with you.

Well done. You have taken your first step towards rejecting Round Earth nonsense.

ARENTICLEVERLOL?

Quote from: Waste of Mind on April 06, 2009, 04:46:47 PM

First of all, the big bang theory is just that, a THEORY.

That's what the Big Bang Theory and the Flat Earth Theory have in common...they're just theories.

As is Round Earth Theory.

Quote from: TheSphericalist on April 06, 2009, 04:55:17 PM

Quote from: Waste of Mind on April 06, 2009, 04:46:47 PM

First of all, the big bang theory is just that, a THEORY.

That's what the Big Bang Theory and the Flat Earth Theory have in common...they're just theories.

As is Round Earth Theory.

RE is not a theory.  It is a confirmed fact.  That FE'ers feel that it was confirmed by an international conspiracy is irrelevant.

Quote from: Robosteve on April 10, 2009, 01:25:58 AM

Quote from: TheSphericalist on April 06, 2009, 04:55:17 PM

Quote from: Waste of Mind on April 06, 2009, 04:46:47 PM

First of all, the big bang theory is just that, a THEORY.

That's what the Big Bang Theory and the Flat Earth Theory have in common...they're just theories.

As is Round Earth Theory.

RE is not a theory.  It is a confirmed fact.  That FE'ers feel that it was confirmed by an international conspiracy is irrelevant.

For something to be a fact,there must be no other logical conclusion. By this websites existence and all the work put into FET,we can see that this is not the case.

Quote from: markjo on April 10, 2009, 06:15:56 AM

Quote from: Robosteve on April 10, 2009, 01:25:58 AM

Quote from: TheSphericalist on April 06, 2009, 04:55:17 PM

Quote from: Waste of Mind on April 06, 2009, 04:46:47 PM

First of all, the big bang theory is just that, a THEORY.

That's what the Big Bang Theory and the Flat Earth Theory have in common...they're just theories.

As is Round Earth Theory.

RE is not a theory.  It is a confirmed fact.  That FE'ers feel that it was confirmed by an international conspiracy is irrelevant.

For something to be a fact,there must be no other logical conclusion.

  Sez who?

Quote from: Waste of Mind on April 10, 2009, 08:10:54 AM

Quote from: markjo on April 10, 2009, 06:15:56 AM

Quote from: Robosteve on April 10, 2009, 01:25:58 AM

Quote from: TheSphericalist on April 06, 2009, 04:55:17 PM

Quote from: Waste of Mind on April 06, 2009, 04:46:47 PM

First of all, the big bang theory is just that, a THEORY.

That's what the Big Bang Theory and the Flat Earth Theory have in common...they're just theories.

As is Round Earth Theory.

RE is not a theory.  It is a confirmed fact.  That FE'ers feel that it was confirmed by an international conspiracy is irrelevant.

For something to be a fact,there must be no other logical conclusion.

  Sez who?

Myself.

Oh,and also my good friend my logic. Logic,markjo markjo,logic.

Quote from: markjo on April 10, 2009, 08:57:19 AM

Quote from: Waste of Mind on April 10, 2009, 08:10:54 AM

Quote from: markjo on April 10, 2009, 06:15:56 AM

Quote from: Robosteve on April 10, 2009, 01:25:58 AM

Quote from: TheSphericalist on April 06, 2009, 04:55:17 PM

Quote from: Waste of Mind on April 06, 2009, 04:46:47 PM

First of all, the big bang theory is just that, a THEORY.

That's what the Big Bang Theory and the Flat Earth Theory have in common...they're just theories.

As is Round Earth Theory.

RE is not a theory.  It is a confirmed fact.  That FE'ers feel that it was confirmed by an international conspiracy is irrelevant.

For something to be a fact,there must be no other logical conclusion.

  Sez who?

Myself.

Oh,and also my good friend my logic. Logic,markjo markjo,logic.

Didn't logic tell you that facts are verifiable bits of information?  The fact that the earth is an oblate spheroid has been verified many times.  That it has been verified by what FE'ers consider a hypothetical international conspiracy is irrelevant.