"Flat Earth" Facts Contradict One Another

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 08:58:01 PM

Quote from: Robosteve on April 17, 2009, 08:53:16 PM

Quote from: 12345SA on April 17, 2009, 08:42:01 PM

But Robosteve that is how you figure the whole FE Theory.

No, FET can be deduced from looking at the Earth and noting that it appears flat.

while the simplest explanations for RE such as ships seeming to sink over the horizon, the sun rise/set etc are easily observable, while FE comes up with a more complicated bending light and such. the simplest explanations for manythings are in RE while much of FE relies on complicated ones

why is dark energy propelling the earth less complicated then gravity which has been proven to hold us on earth aswell as hold superclusters and solar systems together

Why is the bending of light any more complicated than invisible curvature?  Maybe you believe in an invisible man in the sky controlling all of existence too. 

Quote from: Robosteve on April 17, 2009, 08:58:49 PM

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 08:58:01 PM

while the simplest explanations for RE such as ships seeming to sink over the horizon, the sun rise/set etc are easily observable, while FE comes up with a more complicated bending light and such. the simplest explanations for manythings are in RE while much of FE relies on complicated ones

Why is bending light any more complicated than a curved Earth?

because every other planet and star in the galaxy is a ball aswell. earth is not, and should not be seen as, special

Quote from: 12345SA on April 17, 2009, 08:54:48 PM

Have you ever traveled by Plane RtT?

Yes.  The terrain stretched out below me was blissfully flat.

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 09:02:17 PM

Quote from: Robosteve on April 17, 2009, 08:58:49 PM

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 08:58:01 PM

while the simplest explanations for RE such as ships seeming to sink over the horizon, the sun rise/set etc are easily observable, while FE comes up with a more complicated bending light and such. the simplest explanations for manythings are in RE while much of FE relies on complicated ones

Why is bending light any more complicated than a curved Earth?

because every other planet and star in the galaxy is a ball aswell. earth is not, and should not be seen as, special

So it should be assumed to be the same?  On what do you base that ridiculous conclusion?

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 17, 2009, 08:57:41 PM

Quote from: 12345SA on April 17, 2009, 08:54:48 PM

Have you ever traveled by Plane RtT?

Yes.  The terrain stretched out below me was blissfully flat.

http://observers.france24.com/en/content/20090319-earth-seen-helium-balloon-30000-spanish-students

Teenagers did this test, if you look at the images it appears to be curved to me.

every planet is formed in the same way.

http://observers.france24.com/en/content/20090319-earth-seen-helium-balloon-30000-spanish-students

Teenagers did this test, if you look at the images it appears to be curved to me.

the earth is a planet like any other rock planet (as opposed to the gas ones). it was formed by rock and dust collecting in orbit around a star and building up into a planet. the fact that earth has life is simply due to it forming with the right gasses in the atmosphere and the correct distance from the star(ive seen people make the connection between earth an special by using life. its just chance). every planet is formed in the same way. earth is a planet like any other and as such should be treated as such

Quote from: 12345SA on April 17, 2009, 09:05:10 PM

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 17, 2009, 08:57:41 PM

Quote from: 12345SA on April 17, 2009, 08:54:48 PM

Have you ever traveled by Plane RtT?

Yes.  The terrain stretched out below me was blissfully flat.

http://observers.france24.com/en/content/20090319-earth-seen-helium-balloon-30000-spanish-students

Teenagers did this test, if you look at the images it appears to be curved to me.

Well, I've never been on a helium balloon.  But you'll forgive me for trusting my own eyes over some pictures.  Actually, I don't see any compelling instances of curvature in those pictures.  The horizon is too fuzzy to draw any definite conclusions.

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 09:08:42 PM

every planet is formed in the same way.

This is where you lost me.  I simply don't see the Earth as a planet, and have never seen any reason to assume it's a planet.

it has all the properties of one

Quote from: 12345SA on April 17, 2009, 09:05:10 PM

http://observers.france24.com/en/content/20090319-earth-seen-helium-balloon-30000-spanish-students

Teenagers did this test, if you look at the images it appears to be curved to me.

What you are seeing in those pictures is the rounded edge of the Sun's spotlight on the Earth.

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 09:08:42 PM

the earth is a planet like any other rock planet (as opposed to the gas ones). it was formed by rock and dust collecting in orbit around a star and building up into a planet. the fact that earth has life is simply due to it forming with the right gasses in the atmosphere and the correct distance from the star(ive seen people make the connection between earth an special by using life. its just chance). every planet is formed in the same way. earth is a planet like any other and as such should be treated as such

We are familiar with Round Earth Theory, we do not need it explained to us. Please answer the question rather than recounting a theory.

first part: how the hell does a spotlight have a rounded edge that will produce such a curvature? you can see a slight curve in the 2nd pic fairly easily aswell, or are you blind?

second: i did answer the question by recounting the theory. it answers the question fairly well...

if your point was why do i think earth is the same as other planets? what makes it any different

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 09:18:34 PM

first part: how the hell does a spotlight have a rounded edge that will produce such a curvature? you can see a slight curve in the 2nd pic fairly easily aswell, or are you blind?

All I see is a mass of cloud with a curved edge where the spotlight ends.

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 09:18:34 PM

second: i did answer the question by recounting the theory. it answers the question fairly well...

It doesn't answer anything, it only explains one possible viewpoint.

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 09:18:34 PM

if your point was why do i think earth is the same as other planets? what makes it any different

Well, to begin with, planets aren't flat.

well the earth obviously isnt flat

and all observable phenomenom point to the fact its not flat aswell.

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 09:23:44 PM

well the earth obviously isnt flat

Not obvious in the slightest.

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 09:23:44 PM

and all observable phenomenom point to the fact its not flat aswell.

Such as?

day light spread maps, the last thing you see of a ship if its highest points, the sun rise and set, to name a few, all point to the fact that the earth is round.

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 09:32:47 PM

day light spread maps, the last thing you see of a ship if its highest points, the sun rise and set, to name a few, all point to the fact that the earth is round.

No they don't. The fact that RET can explain them doesn't mean the Earth is round.

THE EARTH IS ROUND.

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 09:38:02 PM

THE EARTH IS ROUND.

Proof? It seems to me like your argument goes along the lines of "the Earth is round, therefore the Earth is round".

Quote from: Robosteve on April 17, 2009, 09:38:51 PM

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 09:38:02 PM

THE EARTH IS ROUND.

Proof? It seems to me like your argument goes along the lines of "the Earth is round, therefore the Earth is round".

no, my argument is that the simplest explanation for many, many things is a round earth, while flat earth relies on multitudes of complex "theories" for each of them when they are easily united by one, udner a round earth

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 09:32:47 PM

day light spread maps, the last thing you see of a ship if its highest points, the sun rise and set, to name a few, all point to the fact that the earth is round.

No they don't. The fact that RET can explain them doesn't mean the Earth is round.

If you believe that then the fact that FET can explain them doesn't mean the Earth is flat...

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 09:42:18 PM

Quote from: Robosteve on April 17, 2009, 09:38:51 PM

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 09:38:02 PM

THE EARTH IS ROUND.

Proof? It seems to me like your argument goes along the lines of "the Earth is round, therefore the Earth is round".

no, my argument is that the simplest explanation for many, many things is a round earth, while flat earth relies on multitudes of complex "theories" for each of them when they are easily united by one, udner a round earth

So you can't prove the Earth is round then?

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 17, 2009, 10:55:29 PM

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 09:42:18 PM

Quote from: Robosteve on April 17, 2009, 09:38:51 PM

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 09:38:02 PM

THE EARTH IS ROUND.

Proof? It seems to me like your argument goes along the lines of "the Earth is round, therefore the Earth is round".

no, my argument is that the simplest explanation for many, many things is a round earth, while flat earth relies on multitudes of complex "theories" for each of them when they are easily united by one, udner a round earth

So you can't prove the Earth is round then?

you cant prove its flat

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 11:22:52 PM

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on April 17, 2009, 10:55:29 PM

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 09:42:18 PM

Quote from: Robosteve on April 17, 2009, 09:38:51 PM

Quote from: lupey on April 17, 2009, 09:38:02 PM

THE EARTH IS ROUND.

Proof? It seems to me like your argument goes along the lines of "the Earth is round, therefore the Earth is round".

no, my argument is that the simplest explanation for many, many things is a round earth, while flat earth relies on multitudes of complex "theories" for each of them when they are easily united by one, udner a round earth

So you can't prove the Earth is round then?

you cant prove its flat

Well, I never claimed I could.  You're the ones coming here saying you can prove the Earth is round. 

Robosteve doesn't believe the earth is flat at all and is just in it 4 teh lulz.

You read it here first folks.