Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism

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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #120 on: April 03, 2009, 12:15:50 AM »

The same science that doesn't prove a thing, and invokes belief in a hypothesis?

No, that's not the science I'm referring to.  I'm talking about real science, not science that creationists distort and strain in order to make their views appear stronger.

How did water get on the new planet of earth again?  According to science of course.

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« Reply #121 on: April 03, 2009, 12:33:26 AM »
I don't know; perhaps tomorrow I'll research it.  For now though, sleep well.

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #122 on: April 03, 2009, 12:35:38 AM »
C'ya later.

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #123 on: April 03, 2009, 12:38:25 AM »

The same science that doesn't prove a thing, and invokes belief in a hypothesis?

No, that's not the science I'm referring to.  I'm talking about real science, not science that creationists distort and strain in order to make their views appear stronger.

How did water get on the new planet of earth again?  According to science of course.

Perhaps it never left. Ha dur.

As for your belief in hypothesis. Never. Science demands doubt beyond reason in your hypothesis. It has to be on something completely testable and have a means to be disproven via experiment.

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #124 on: April 03, 2009, 07:18:19 AM »

The same science that doesn't prove a thing, and invokes belief in a hypothesis?

No, that's not the science I'm referring to.  I'm talking about real science, not science that creationists distort and strain in order to make their views appear stronger.

How did water get on the new planet of earth again?  According to science of course.
it's really funny. they claim that billions of years ago comets sometimes got to close and their tales dumped water onto the planet. of course there is no proof to support this, it's just accepted because they figure it is the most likely way.

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #125 on: April 03, 2009, 09:48:31 AM »

The same science that doesn't prove a thing, and invokes belief in a hypothesis?

No, that's not the science I'm referring to.  I'm talking about real science, not science that creationists distort and strain in order to make their views appear stronger.

How did water get on the new planet of earth again?  According to science of course.

Perhaps it never left. Ha dur.

As for your belief in hypothesis. Never. Science demands doubt beyond reason in your hypothesis. It has to be on something completely testable and have a means to be disproven via experiment.

So every possible theory on how water formed on this planet has been tested?

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« Reply #126 on: April 03, 2009, 10:27:28 AM »
wait a second you are the one saying that earth is the only planet that has water. you should be the one providing evidence that Europa doesn't have water. Same with mars. we have giving reasons why we can't see the ice on mars, you need to prove it doesn't exist.
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« Reply #127 on: April 03, 2009, 10:51:45 AM »
wait a second you are the one saying that earth is the only planet that has water. you should be the one providing evidence that Europa doesn't have water. Same with mars. we have giving reasons why we can't see the ice on mars, you need to prove it doesn't exist.

I'm not rehashing this.  Go back to page one and start over.

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #128 on: April 03, 2009, 01:04:17 PM »

The same science that doesn't prove a thing, and invokes belief in a hypothesis?

No, that's not the science I'm referring to.  I'm talking about real science, not science that creationists distort and strain in order to make their views appear stronger.

How did water get on the new planet of earth again?  According to science of course.

Perhaps it never left. Ha dur.

As for your belief in hypothesis. Never. Science demands doubt beyond reason in your hypothesis. It has to be on something completely testable and have a means to be disproven via experiment.

So every possible theory on how water formed on this planet has been tested?

So you have gone out and tested every planet for water?


And yes, they test them to their ability to test them, and the tests could in fact prove them wrong.


Unlike your stance which is simply to nitpick any issue possible, and then when asked about evidence for your claims you just say "god made it that way" and your inconsistencies are fine.


I showed you a water planet. You claimed it is co2. Explained miles deep co2 ice. It is your idea explain how it got there.

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #129 on: April 03, 2009, 02:11:34 PM »
Even though i am christian I know that other planets have water on them. ours is unique because no other planet has THAWED water on it. That we know of, at least.

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #130 on: April 03, 2009, 02:20:40 PM »
When we've explored very few planets (read:2ish) this hardly makes us unique.

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #131 on: April 03, 2009, 05:48:52 PM »
we haven't explored many but we can see many through a telscope. but another thing that makes us unique is that no other moon reflects light back onto the planet.

Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #132 on: April 03, 2009, 05:59:59 PM »
we haven't explored many but we can see many through a telscope. but another thing that makes us unique is that no other moon reflects light back onto the planet.
You do realize that you can't tell if a planet has water simply by looking through a telescope, right?

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #133 on: April 03, 2009, 06:01:58 PM »
we haven't explored many but we can see many through a telscope. but another thing that makes us unique is that no other moon reflects light back onto the planet.


False. But good theory. ::)


As for looking at them through a telescope, we have a sample size of nine planets various sizes and distances from the sun. Perhaps if we could see how many planets of our size in the same temperature zone had water we could determine if we were "special."

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« Reply #134 on: April 03, 2009, 09:18:59 PM »
Who let KingMan back in?

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #135 on: April 03, 2009, 10:33:41 PM »
For liquid water to exist on the surface, a planet needs to be in a certain zone not too far and not too close to its sun (among a few other factors).  How many planets per solar system do you think can fit in that range?  Maybe three max?  I don't know, but the point I'm making is that we only have a pool of 8 to look at.  Sure we can see planets in other solar systems, but we can only see them when they pass between their sun and us.  We can't observe well enough to see water.  It's like pulling 8 kids out of a classroom and finding only one that is black and concluding that he/she is the only black child in the world.  The sample size simply isn't big enough.  For another example, Mars is the only known planet to have two moons.  Does this make mars special? Does this mean that there aren't any other planets in the entire cosmos with only two moons because it's the only one we know of?  Does this mean that Mars is special and because it's special God must have made it?  No. 

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« Reply #136 on: April 03, 2009, 11:05:21 PM »
Obviously, none of you have studied Wumbology.
If you do not cease this low content posting, I shall begin reporting you.

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #137 on: April 03, 2009, 11:49:53 PM »
If you begin spamming my inbox because someone made a joke I will be pissed.

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #138 on: April 04, 2009, 11:05:06 AM »
Who let KingMan back in?
Not anymore.

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #139 on: April 04, 2009, 01:40:09 PM »
So what did you ban him for jack? Just for reference the rule he broke?

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #140 on: April 04, 2009, 02:01:00 PM »
Ban evasion, as I suspect Isaac is Kingman; I believe he is Kingman not because of his avatar, but because of the quality and content of his posts. If I'm wrong, feel free to unban him.

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #141 on: April 04, 2009, 02:09:31 PM »
I mean why was kingman banned?

The real clue is the photobucket he posted in a chat gkingman, was the name.

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #142 on: April 04, 2009, 02:10:30 PM »
Ask Hara about it.

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Raist

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #143 on: April 04, 2009, 02:11:22 PM »
 ;D

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« Reply #144 on: April 05, 2009, 03:55:09 PM »
If you begin spamming my inbox because someone made a joke I will be pissed.
When was the last time I actually reported someone?

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #145 on: April 05, 2009, 04:42:31 PM »
I don't really pay attention to reports. Possibly yesterday for all I know.

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« Reply #146 on: April 06, 2009, 06:17:48 PM »
I don't really pay attention to reports. Possibly yesterday for all I know.
Wrong.

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #147 on: April 06, 2009, 06:56:11 PM »
Actually that statement is true.

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Proleg

Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #148 on: April 06, 2009, 07:39:51 PM »
Actually that statement is true.
For all you know.

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Re: Youtube - Foundational Falsehood of Creationism
« Reply #149 on: April 06, 2009, 10:50:46 PM »
It was a qualified statement. It is therefore correct.