"Falling" towards the earth

If the earth accelerated, everybody standing on earth would feel that acceration  

Because the force of gravity does not exist.

Either way, the jump is accelerating up due to drag.

Quote from: bgamelson on April 22, 2009, 03:07:56 PM

If the earth accelerated, everybody standing on earth would feel that acceration  

We are feeling that acceleration while standing on Earth. That is proper acceleration.

BBWWWWAAAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!

I cannot believe you are actually that stupid!

Then why is the moon still 250,000 miles away just as it was for millions of years?

Quote from: bgamelson on April 22, 2009, 03:09:47 PM

BBWWWWAAAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!!!!

I cannot believe you are actually that stupid!

When I free-fall and I put a weight scale below my foot, it reads 0. Where is gravity now?

Quote from: bgamelson on April 22, 2009, 03:11:25 PM

Then why is the moon still 250,000 miles away just as it was for millions of years?

Just read the FAQ.

Learn what weightlessness is. I'm not being accelerated down by gravity when I fall, since it doesn't exist. When I'm standing, it reads a value because the Earth is pushing against me.

Quote from: Jack on April 22, 2009, 03:23:26 PM

Learn what weightlessness is. I'm not being accelerated down by gravity when I fall, since it doesn't exist. When I'm standing, it reads a value because the Earth is pushing against me.

I know what weightlessness is.  The earth doesn't push against you, you're pushing against the earth due to gravity.   

Have you ever taken an IQ test?

I know what weightlessness is.  The earth doesn't push against you, you're pushing against the earth due to gravity.   

Have you ever taken an IQ test?

Quote from: bgamelson on April 22, 2009, 03:29:05 PM

I know what weightlessness is.  The earth doesn't push against you, you're pushing against the earth due to gravity.   

Have you ever taken an IQ test?

This is so full of fail I don't think there are any options but involuntary euthanasia.

Where does the UA originate from?

Quote from: Delthan on April 22, 2009, 06:27:54 PM

Where does the UA originate from?

Where does the expansion of the universe in RE 'originate' from?

I don't pretend to know, and in any case, that has nothing to do with my question.

Quote from: Delthan on April 23, 2009, 05:07:14 AM

I don't pretend to know, and in any case, that has nothing to do with my question.

It has everything to do with your question. If you can't identify the source of basic properties of RET, why should we be expected to do the same with FET?

Let's just play a game here Steven. Pretend I'm neutral in this whole endeavour - I have been ignorant of either theory for all my life, and now I wish to be taught.  Now, can you teach me as to why it is better to believe the theory accepted by a select few, than one accepted by millions around the world, when both have an equal lacking in their mechanisms? When there are thousands of independent sources of information for one theory and about a dozen for another, what would compel me to believe the latter?

The fact that your eyes clearly tell you that the Earth is flat.

Quote from: Delthan on April 23, 2009, 05:25:48 AM

Let's just play a game here Steven. Pretend I'm neutral in this whole endeavour - I have been ignorant of either theory for all my life, and now I wish to be taught.  Now, can you teach me as to why it is better to believe the theory accepted by a select few, than one accepted by millions around the world, when both have an equal lacking in their mechanisms? When there are thousands of independent sources of information for one theory and about a dozen for another, what would compel me to believe the latter?

The fact that your eyes clearly tell you that the Earth is flat.

Now, can you teach me as to why it is better to believe the theory accepted by a select few, than one accepted by millions around the world, when both have an equal lacking in their mechanisms?

Quote from: Delthan on April 23, 2009, 05:25:48 AM

Now, can you teach me as to why it is better to believe the theory accepted by a select few, than one accepted by millions around the world, when both have an equal lacking in their mechanisms?

Fallacy.

It has been said that an accelerometer will read 0 in free-fall and +9.8 (notwithstanding the relative and thereby pointless nature of the +) when standing still.

I demand proof of this.

Quote from: A Physicist on April 23, 2009, 04:58:55 PM

It has been said that an accelerometer will read 0 in free-fall and +9.8 (notwithstanding the relative and thereby pointless nature of the +) when standing still.

I demand proof of this.

Nobody here's stopping you from jumping out of an airplane.

Quote from: Delthan on April 22, 2009, 06:27:54 PM

Where does the UA originate from?

Where does the expansion of the universe in RE 'originate' from?

It has been said that an accelerometer will read 0 in free-fall and +9.8 (notwithstanding the relative and thereby pointless nature of the +) when standing still.

I demand proof of this.

An accelerometer measures the acceleration it experiences relative to freefall. This is equivalent to inertial acceleration minus the local gravitational acceleration[1][2], where inertial acceleration is understood in the Newtonian sense of acceleration with respect to a fixed reference frame, which the Earth is often considered to approximate.

As a consequence, quite counter-intuitively, an accelerometer at rest on the Earth's surface will actually indicate 1 g upwards along the vertical axis. To obtain the inertial acceleration (due to motion alone), this gravity offset must be subtracted. Along all horizontal directions, the device yields acceleration directly. Conversely, the device's output will be zero during free fall, where the acceleration exactly follows gravity. This includes use in an earth orbiting spaceship, but not a (non-free) fall with air resistance, where drag forces reduce the acceleration until terminal velocity is reached, at which point the device would once again indicate the 1 g vertical offset.

Quote from: bgamelson on April 22, 2009, 03:29:05 PM

Quote from: Jack on April 22, 2009, 03:23:26 PM

Learn what weightlessness is. I'm not being accelerated down by gravity when I fall, since it doesn't exist. When I'm standing, it reads a value because the Earth is pushing against me.

I know what weightlessness is.  The earth doesn't push against you, you're pushing against the earth due to gravity.   

Have you ever taken an IQ test?

IQ has nothing to do with ones  disbelief in gravity. Even in the RE scenario both parties are pushing, the earth is pushing harder therefor you don't sink into the ground.

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.