Evolution didn't happen

  • 1539 Replies
  • 420877 Views
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #150 on: June 16, 2009, 08:42:50 AM »
No, I just don't see the point in beating a dead debate
Their are 2 large concave mirrors that have been attached to the sun which can be remotely controlled to point the rays wherever they are needed.

*

Raist

  • The Elder Ones
  • 30499
  • +0/-0
  • The cat in the Matrix
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #151 on: June 16, 2009, 08:56:26 AM »
No, I just don't see the point in beating a dead debate

That's pretty big of you. Admitting when you're wrong and proven wrong.

Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #152 on: June 16, 2009, 09:00:13 AM »
 ???

How am I wrong when I have been with the evolution argument saying that evolution didn't happen?
Their are 2 large concave mirrors that have been attached to the sun which can be remotely controlled to point the rays wherever they are needed.

?

Melinda

  • 165
  • +0/-0
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #153 on: June 16, 2009, 09:05:47 AM »
The eye can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages simultaneously. Evolution focuses on mutations and changes from and within existing organisms. Yet evolution alone does not fully explain the initial source of the eye or the brain the start of living organisms from nonliving matter.

*

Raist

  • The Elder Ones
  • 30499
  • +0/-0
  • The cat in the Matrix
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #154 on: June 16, 2009, 09:13:18 AM »
The eye can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages simultaneously. Evolution focuses on mutations and changes from and within existing organisms. Yet evolution alone does not fully explain the initial source of the eye or the brain the start of living organisms from nonliving matter.

Yes it does you stupid fatty. Light sensing cells can be found on tons of simple organisms.

Is there any room for a brain in there under the fat?

?

Melinda

  • 165
  • +0/-0
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #155 on: June 16, 2009, 09:27:42 AM »
Like what?

*

Raist

  • The Elder Ones
  • 30499
  • +0/-0
  • The cat in the Matrix
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #156 on: June 16, 2009, 09:29:51 AM »
http://www.google.com/search?q=protists+with+light+sensing+cells&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a


here's ones that show up on google from "protists with light sensing cells"

You can do your own google searches too.

www.google.com

?

Melinda

  • 165
  • +0/-0
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #157 on: June 16, 2009, 09:32:59 AM »
Thanks

Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #158 on: June 16, 2009, 09:44:42 AM »
No, I just don't see the point in beating a dead debate

That's pretty big of you. Admitting when you're wrong and proven wrong.
???

How am I wrong when I have been with the evolution argument saying that evolution didn't happen?

So Raist, You havn't answered my question yet.

Or are you just going to ignore me now since you were the one saying just a few pages ago that evolution was happening.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2009, 09:49:13 AM by The Black Alliance »
Their are 2 large concave mirrors that have been attached to the sun which can be remotely controlled to point the rays wherever they are needed.

*

Parsifal

  • Official Member
  • 36019
  • +0/-0
  • Bendy Light specialist
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #159 on: June 16, 2009, 10:38:26 AM »
Thats okay that you think its total bullshit. Its your opinion. I have my own.

Yes. But your earlier statement:

I dont think Religion all together is dismissed as one big lie.

is meaningless because some people do dismiss it as such, and others don't.
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

?

Melinda

  • 165
  • +0/-0
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #160 on: June 16, 2009, 10:49:19 AM »

And...

*

Parsifal

  • Official Member
  • 36019
  • +0/-0
  • Bendy Light specialist
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #161 on: June 16, 2009, 10:52:17 AM »

And...

And therefore I don't understand what meaning you were attempting to convey.
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

?

Melinda

  • 165
  • +0/-0
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #162 on: June 16, 2009, 11:14:38 AM »
I guess sometimes you just dont get it.

*

Pongo

  • 6752
  • +1/-0
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #163 on: June 16, 2009, 11:27:12 AM »
Pongo, Religion is one big lie, If the people in the video seemed intelligent to you then you are done for.

They believe what they are saying cause the people have been brainwashed through decades of indoctrination by the cathols.

Are you trying to say that only non-intelligent people can become brainwashed?  There are many highly intelligent theists out there.  Do not underestimate your opponent.


The eye can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages simultaneously. Evolution focuses on mutations and changes from and within existing organisms. Yet evolution alone does not fully explain the initial source of the eye or the brain the start of living organisms from nonliving matter.

This is a classic example.  Whenever someone brings up the eye as proof against evolution, you can immediately infer that they have little or no understanding of the theory of evolution, regardless of what they claim.  It's also abundantly clear that you copy/pasted that statement, most likely from a christian propaganda website.  If I were to google the sentence, "The eye can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages simultaneously," would I get any hits?  Back to the point though, the eye has been proven, countless times, to have evolved.  There are current living species in every single stage of the eye's development.  The mountains of proof for the development of the eye is only hidden from your view by the lack of will to learn about it.  Evolution alone does fully explain the eye and the brain.

Your statement -- or who ever you copy/pasted it from -- that evolution does not explain the start of living organisms from nonliving matter is completely true.  But it's like saying that calculus does not explain the pythagorean theorem.  While still true, it makes the speaker look ill-informed on the topic they are trying to debate.  So, please stop saying you've done "a lot" of study on evolution, with each passing post it becomes more and more apparent that you in fact have not.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2009, 11:29:08 AM by Pongo »

*

Parsifal

  • Official Member
  • 36019
  • +0/-0
  • Bendy Light specialist
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #164 on: June 16, 2009, 11:31:31 AM »
I guess sometimes you just dont get it.

It's hard to get things that don't make sense.
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

*

optimisticcynic

  • 2194
  • +0/-0
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #165 on: June 16, 2009, 11:59:13 AM »
The eye can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages simultaneously. Evolution focuses on mutations and changes from and within existing organisms. Yet evolution alone does not fully explain the initial source of the eye or the brain the start of living organisms from nonliving matter.
actually national Geographic had an entire article explaining how it could have happened. I explained how it happened in a different thread and I don't feel like explaining it again. if you want to know how it could happen use Google.
You can't outrun death forever
But you can sure make the old bastard work for it.

?

Melinda

  • 165
  • +0/-0
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #166 on: June 16, 2009, 12:01:26 PM »
Pongo, Religion is one big lie, If the people in the video seemed intelligent to you then you are done for.

They believe what they are saying cause the people have been brainwashed through decades of indoctrination by the cathols.

Are you trying to say that only non-intelligent people can become brainwashed?  There are many highly intelligent theists out there.  Do not underestimate your opponent.


The eye can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages simultaneously. Evolution focuses on mutations and changes from and within existing organisms. Yet evolution alone does not fully explain the initial source of the eye or the brain the start of living organisms from nonliving matter.

This is a classic example.  Whenever someone brings up the eye as proof against evolution, you can immediately infer that they have little or no understanding of the theory of evolution, regardless of what they claim.  It's also abundantly clear that you copy/pasted that statement, most likely from a christian propaganda website.  If I were to google the sentence, "The eye can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages simultaneously," would I get any hits?  Back to the point though, the eye has been proven, countless times, to have evolved.  There are current living species in every single stage of the eye's development.  The mountains of proof for the development of the eye is only hidden from your view by the lack of will to learn about it.  Evolution alone does fully explain the eye and the brain.

Your statement -- or who ever you copy/pasted it from -- that evolution does not explain the start of living organisms from nonliving matter is completely true.  But it's like saying that calculus does not explain the pythagorean theorem.  While still true, it makes the speaker look ill-imed on the topic they are trying to debate.  So, please stop saying you've done "a lot" of study on evolution, with each passing post it becomes more and more apparent that you in fact have not.
I wasnt using the "eye" as proof, only as an example. Just to get the brain juices flowing. Dont take it so personal.

*

Pongo

  • 6752
  • +1/-0
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #167 on: June 16, 2009, 12:13:24 PM »
I wasnt using the "eye" as proof, only as an example. Just to get the brain juices flowing. Dont take it so personal.

If you post erroneous things about my beloved evolution then, upon my honor, I shall defend it.  Also, for the purposes of that argument, using it as proof or merely an example is irrelevant.  Either way, you cannot cite the eye in that manor, it's false.

*

Nemiades

  • 230
  • +0/-0
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #168 on: June 17, 2009, 05:47:51 PM »
Evolution excists.

As someone said here already humans got 94% the same DNA as chimps. Also scientists have discovered corpse remains of .. "less developed" human-monkey-things. And the reason why only humans wear clothes is that human is the only intelligent enough creature on earth at the moment to be able to use the recourses given to produce something like clothing.

I really hope that whoever arguing here about evolution being false, is not serious.
Personally I find it harder to belive that a great wizard created humans. Rofl.


"We will not agree to anything until its generally denied."

*

Raist

  • The Elder Ones
  • 30499
  • +0/-0
  • The cat in the Matrix
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #169 on: June 17, 2009, 06:06:37 PM »
Evolution excists.

As someone said here already humans got 94% the same DNA as chimps. Also scientists have discovered corpse remains of .. "less developed" human-monkey-things. And the reason why only humans wear clothes is that human is the only intelligent enough creature on earth at the moment to be able to use the recourses given to produce something like clothing.

I really hope that whoever arguing here about evolution being false, is not serious.
Personally I find it harder to belive that a great wizard created humans. Rofl.

We have 98 percent the same dna as chimps. You spelled exists wrong. As for us being the only ones that wear clothes, apes will use leaves as umbrellas during rain storms. This idea is a very close analogue to clothing. You are a fucking idiot that doesn't understand evolution, you simply believe it because you are told it's true and science backs it. I believe in evolution and I still think you are a fucktard for believing it with no evidence, you are no better than the creationists. As for discovering corpse remains of "less developed human monkey things" are you on fucking drugs? If something was a less evolved human it certainly wouldn't be a corpse, it probably wouldn't even be a few bones. It would be mineral imprints in the rocks shaped like humans.

This is why I think you are stupid.

fin

?

mazty88

  • 473
  • +0/-0
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #170 on: June 17, 2009, 07:45:10 PM »
If evolution happened we would see much more redundancy in the animal kingdom. We would see many animals that shared most of their DNA and only had a few differences. On top of this we would see redundant systems in animals, perhaps several organs performing the same function. Humans have no such organs, even the appendix does the job of fighting off bacteria.

If humans evolved from primates wouldn't we see many different kind of monkeys instead of just apes?

Finally, fish do not crawl out of water, there is obviously no fish that can breath air, maybe a "lung fish."


*

Slashdot

  • 346
  • +0/-0
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #171 on: June 21, 2009, 02:01:34 PM »
"If humans evolved from primates wouldn't we see many different kind of monkeys instead of just apes?"

Don't we allready see many different kinds of apes/monkeys? Yes we do.
And after all, I dont believe it's possible to find every "missing link" in evolution, and it will allways be many unanswered questions regarding evolution.
This is what happens when trolls troll trolls trolling trolls.
Quote from: Waste of Mind
MOAR LIEK THE FAG ERTH SOCITY AMIRITE?

*

Raist

  • The Elder Ones
  • 30499
  • +0/-0
  • The cat in the Matrix
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #172 on: June 21, 2009, 03:00:37 PM »
"If humans evolved from primates wouldn't we see many different kind of monkeys instead of just apes?"

Don't we allready see many different kinds of apes/monkeys? Yes we do.
And after all, I dont believe it's possible to find every "missing link" in evolution, and it will allways be many unanswered questions regarding evolution.

Wow. You came to this thread, as a new person, read what was said, and responded reasonably.

Good job.

*

Pongo

  • 6752
  • +1/-0
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #173 on: June 22, 2009, 11:51:50 PM »

?

BOGWarrior89

  • 3792
  • +0/-0
  • We are as one.
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #174 on: June 23, 2009, 12:01:40 AM »


Do you want us to address the points presented?  Or was this merely humor?

*

Pongo

  • 6752
  • +1/-0
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #175 on: June 23, 2009, 12:09:04 AM »


Do you want us to address the points presented?  Or was this merely humor?

I don't give a shit what you do.  In fact, for future reference, all my posts will be specifically not addressed to you, BOGWarrior89.  I'm not saying that I don't want you to reply to my posts or that you shouldn't reply to them, I am just saying that I place absolutely no value on your opinion and thus do not care in the slightest what you say or do.  Therefore, you may regard everything I post to be directed to everyone but yourself. 

?

BOGWarrior89

  • 3792
  • +0/-0
  • We are as one.
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #176 on: June 23, 2009, 12:15:49 AM »


Do you want us to address the points presented?  Or was this merely humor?

I don't give a shit what you do.  In fact, for future reference, all my posts will be specifically not addressed to you, BOGWarrior89.  I'm not saying that I don't want you to reply to my posts or that you shouldn't reply to them, I am just saying that I place absolutely no value on your opinion and thus do not care in the slightest what you say or do.  Therefore, you may regard everything I post to be directed to everyone but yourself. 

That's all well and good, but you didn't notice my usage of a second-person pronoun, meaning I was asking on the behalf of the entirety of the members of these fora, and not just for myself.  Furthermore, you didn't even get around to answering my inquires.

Could you please do so now?  I would like to help clear up any misunderstandings or misconceptions about evolution, Natural Selection, and the like, and I can't do that without knowing what was posted in utter seriousness from what was posted as mere satirical humor.

?

Mykael

  • 4240
  • +0/-0
  • Professor of the Horrible Sciences
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #177 on: June 23, 2009, 12:22:22 AM »

That video is freaking hilarious. Bookmarked.

*

Raist

  • The Elder Ones
  • 30499
  • +0/-0
  • The cat in the Matrix
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #178 on: June 23, 2009, 10:48:48 AM »
Did he just use a stick of dynamite in a bowling ball as an analogy for the big bang?

*

Soze

  • 1291
  • +0/-0
  • Flat Earth Proponent
Re: Evolution didn't happen
« Reply #179 on: June 25, 2009, 09:37:53 PM »
Did he just use a stick of dynamite in a bowling ball as an analogy for the big bang?
I think he did, but not before implying that it was a rock that exploded.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2009, 09:39:25 PM by Soze »