Why us REers will never win.

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Tom Bishop

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2009, 12:24:57 AM »
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Patently false. Peer review requires independence. EnaGR was not independent or even open-minded.

Earth Not a Globe Review wasn't published by Rowbotham. It was independent.

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NoYou can, however, observe the constant size of the Sun as it sets tonight over the Pacific Ocean and demonstrate to yourself that Rowbotham was wrong in at least that case.

I have observed the sun setting. It demonstrated that Rowbotham's explanation held up.

Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2009, 12:27:53 AM »
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Patently false. Peer review requires independence. EnaGR was not independent or even open-minded.

Earth Not a Globe Review wasn't published by Rowbotham. Therefore it was independent.
[\quote]Patently false. Independence requires more than a change of players.[\quote]
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NoYou can, however, observe the constant size of the Sun as it sets tonight over the Pacific Ocean and demonstrate to yourself that Rowbotham was wrong in at least that case. Of course, we anticipate that you'll ignore reality, again.

I have and it demonstrated that Rowbotham's explanation held up.
Nope. You're fibbing, again. Document your results and have a high school physics teacher watch your machinations.

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General Douchebag

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2009, 12:58:04 AM »
There's no point debating with this moron, Tom.
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No but I'm guess your what? 90? Cause you just so darn mature </sarcasm>

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2009, 06:33:19 AM »
This was interesting on Friday evening. Shame.

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2009, 07:56:36 AM »
I have observed the sun setting. It demonstrated that Rowbotham's explanation held up.

Gee Tom, I've observed the sun setting and have concluded that Rowbotham's explanation does not hold up.
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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2009, 12:46:05 PM »
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Patently false. Peer review requires independence. EnaGR was not independent or even open-minded.

Earth Not a Globe Review wasn't published by Rowbotham. It was independent.


"Meanwhile Lady Blount established a journal, the Earth Not a Globe Review to act as a further mouthpiece for zetetic views. Edited by Zetetes it was circulated worldwide with the help of staunch supporters in Ireland, Canada, America, South Africa, India, Australia and New Zealand. The only major exception was Russia where, for unknown reasons, it was banned." - Garwood

Sound independent?

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2009, 01:23:15 PM »
When I last looked at this post it had some semblance of sanity, though that was after about 6 posts. I read a fair few journal articles and have yet to see anything from the FAQ come up. In short that is why REers will never win, we unfortunately have to provide proof beyond proof (yeah I liked thundercats). As where the FE argument merely needs to quote its FAQ which I quite enjoy reading, for the same reason I enjoy going to the circus.

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Dr Matrix

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2009, 01:37:33 PM »
As where the FE argument merely needs to quote its FAQ which I quite enjoy reading, for the same reason I enjoy going to the circus.

Because there is a whole world of possibilities within your grasp, if only you are open to them?  Good to see you're learning!
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2009, 01:23:34 PM »
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So, is it available for others to look or is it some antique book/article that isn't available anymore? And if you read back then I asked peer review which was done in last 40 years. If it isn't available online then please refer to the title and author of the book/article. Though, author must be real scientist not "scientist" like Rowbotham was.

After ENAG was published there was a monthly journal called "Earth Not a Globe Review" which was dedicated to peer reviewing the work.

There are also reproductions of Rowbotham's experiments by independent researchers which you can find in my signature link.
Are there any peer review that any scientist did? You can't call a "peer review" a work done by some Rowbotham followers. I can't see any work of scientist from your signature link also. So, question remains.
Rowbotham had bad eyesight
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

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Dr Matrix

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2009, 01:30:32 PM »
I'm a scientist!  Hear me RAWR!
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2009, 01:33:11 PM »
I'm actually here because it's virtually insurmountable. I've always loved debating challenges, and being told '90 Percent Of The Evidence You Bring Is Inadmissable' provides one hell of a challenge.

Still, says something about the human race, eh? Even after we develop the ability to go into space and get the answer...

If Round Earth supporters went into space and came back and announced the world was round, 'conspiracy' would be announced. If Flat Earth supporters went up into space and came back saying the Earth is flat, same thing will happen. In the end, it all boils down to belief, and no amount of evidence will ever convince everyone.

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Dr Matrix

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2009, 01:35:22 PM »
Actually, RE'ers will never win because the Earth is flat.
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2009, 01:45:49 PM »
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I'm a scientist!  Hear me RAWR!
  Are you doing the peer review of Rowbothams work?

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Actually, RE'ers will never win because the Earth is flat.
Yes, in this forum. But out there...
Rowbotham had bad eyesight
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

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Dr Matrix

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2009, 01:48:46 PM »
Are you doing the peer review of Rowbothams work?

Why would I need to, when there's a wealth of debate-worthy evidence at hand?

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Actually, RE'ers will never win because the Earth is flat.
Yes, in this forum. But out there...

I'm fairly certain the curvature of the Earth doesn't vary greatly between the host server and outside of it's warehouse.
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2009, 01:50:58 PM »
Are you doing the peer review of Rowbothams work?

Why would I need to, when there's a wealth of debate-worthy evidence at hand?

Um. Not really.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2009, 07:21:28 AM by ﮎingulaЯiτy »

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Dr Matrix

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #45 on: March 09, 2009, 01:55:08 PM »
Why would I need to, when there's a wealth of debate-worthy evidence at hand?

Um. Not really.

Um. Ya rly.
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #46 on: March 09, 2009, 01:59:59 PM »
Totally inadmissable evidence. Conspiracy cover-up, so afraid that everything's fabricated. Sorry! ^_^
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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #47 on: March 09, 2009, 02:01:45 PM »
Why would I need to, when there's a wealth of debate-worthy evidence at hand?

Um. Not really.
Um. Ya rly.

1. Rowbotham - insane
2. Conspiracy - non existant
3. ???
4. Profit
« Last Edit: March 24, 2009, 07:20:43 AM by ﮎingulaЯiτy »

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Dr Matrix

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #48 on: March 09, 2009, 02:06:09 PM »
1. Rowbotham - insane
2. Conspiracy - non existant
3. ???
4. Profit

Gotta give it to you, I lol'd ;D
Quote from: Arthur Schopenhauer
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #49 on: March 09, 2009, 07:48:43 PM »
Actually, RE'ers will never win because the Earth is flat.
Sorry dude, please try in your "Scientist" credentials for stating a weakly supported theory as fact.

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bowler

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2009, 02:40:45 AM »
Ah I went through this phase as well.

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Dr Matrix

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2009, 03:28:16 PM »
You see? It happens to everyone in the end.  Maybe if Better Model hangs around long enough he'll figure it out.
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2009, 03:31:06 PM »
You see? It happens to everyone in the end.  Maybe if Better Model hangs around long enough he'll figure it out.

Perhaps every time someone starts this kind of argument, a book should be opened on how long it'll take before the penny drops?
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A Budget of Paradoxes - A. de Morgan (pp 306-310)

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Dr Matrix

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Re: Why us REers will never win.
« Reply #53 on: March 10, 2009, 03:34:34 PM »
That could be pretty good - there's quite a large deviation on the time so should get an interesting number of bets!
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All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.