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ComradePoos

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Yet another question topic
« on: March 05, 2009, 03:18:20 PM »
If the earth is flat, why is every other planet a sphere?

And also, virgin have started bookings to space flights available to the public which will get going in a few years (Virgin Galactic), then what will you guys say when normal people enter space and see the sphere earth? Surely the government would not allow this if it were to jeopardize their 'conspiracy' which they are doing for 'unknown objectives'?

And how to people travel around the world? Do they go through invisible teleports before they hit these 'Ice walls'?

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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2009, 03:28:28 PM »
No, no and of course! The world is Pac-Man! Put on your tinfoil hat, the government are sendin' radio signals to mah teeth again!
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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2009, 03:34:28 PM »
And while I'm here...

Your FAQ states that ''Really, the sun is just getting farther away; it looks like it's disappearing because everything gets smaller, and eventually disappears as it gets farther away.''

Why don't we freeze to death?

And If satellites can't get into space, how can we predict weather?

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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2009, 03:46:51 PM »
Why would we freeze to death? We're warm blooded, the air holds heat and I don't know about you, but I live in a house, which is very warm. I was going to refer you to a search there, but nobody's ever said that before. Also, stratellites and weather balloons work pretty adequately.
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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2009, 04:03:23 PM »
If the earth is flat, why is every other planet a sphere?

And also, virgin have started bookings to space flights available to the public which will get going in a few years (Virgin Galactic), then what will you guys say when normal people enter space and see the sphere earth? Surely the government would not allow this if it were to jeopardize their 'conspiracy' which they are doing for 'unknown objectives'?

And how to people travel around the world? Do they go through invisible teleports before they hit these 'Ice walls'?

You have the answer right there... The other celestial bodies are planets.  The earth is a unique object, not a planet.  (Which you would know, had you read the FAQ.)

Virgin spaceways or whatever they're calling it will not have windows, but view screens, which will of course show exactly what the space agencies want it to show.

Of course not, but if you can't be bothered to check the FAQ or do a simple search, I'm not going to waste anymore time with you.
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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2009, 04:06:53 PM »
Why would we freeze to death? We're warm blooded, the air holds heat and I don't know about you, but I live in a house, which is very warm. I was going to refer you to a search there, but nobody's ever said that before. Also, stratellites and weather balloons work pretty adequately.

Seeing as though the sun is what keeps the earth a an appropriate temperature, and is 100x bigger than earth, it would have to move pretty far away to become completely invisible, causing earth to completely freeze over and of course we would drift of into space because of no orbit. Unless in your theory earth doesn't orbit the sun.

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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2009, 05:05:34 PM »
Why would we freeze to death? We're warm blooded, the air holds heat and I don't know about you, but I live in a house, which is very warm. I was going to refer you to a search there, but nobody's ever said that before. Also, stratellites and weather balloons work pretty adequately.

Seeing as though the sun is what keeps the earth a an appropriate temperature, and is 100x bigger than earth, it would have to move pretty far away to become completely invisible, causing earth to completely freeze over and of course we would drift of into space because of no orbit. Unless in your theory earth doesn't orbit the sun.

Why don't you try reading the FAQ... and then you would understand what you're talking about.
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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2009, 07:26:49 PM »
*sigh*

Even though I firmly believe in RET, post like these appall me.


I will provide "their" answers to you questions. Evaluate them as you will:

Other "planets" are planets, the Earth is not a planet.
Virgin Galactic has recieved funding from NASA, therefore they are automatically evil and part of the conspiracy.
The Sun is not actually getting further away from the Earth, but from your position, which makes it appear smaller. The fact that the Sun actually appears to make a "circle" overhead as it travels from one point on the horizon to another is handwaved away as air distortion. The fact that it doesn't get smaller, and only passes under the horizon is handwaved, also, as distortion. Why you cannot see it when it is far away, again, is air distortion.
Weather is predicted by many stratilites, basically blimps way up there that serve the same purpose.
I'm so tempted to put a scratch and sniff at the bottom of a pool and see what you do...

Avert your eyes, this is too awesome for them...

Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2009, 07:47:01 PM »
Tell me then, why is the Earth not a planet?

It has an orbit around the sun, the moon has an orbit around us, and we spin on an axis.
And before you suggest, I'm not reading your FAQ again, or doing a search through billions of flame posts looking for the answer.

Oh, and another thing, what financial gain is there to be had in shrouding the truth from people concerning the shape of the earth?
Your FAQ and posts regarding it seem to only indicate that that is the reason behind the 'conspiracy', but tell me, what money could you
accumulate holding the secret that the earth is flat?

There are secrets and conspiracies that make people money, obviously (i.e. trade secrets, what have you), but they usually have money somewhere in the equation already.

What difference does it make to the government if people know the earth is round or flat? It's not as if knowing about the earth has a membership fee. What I'm getting at is it is not like the government is making people pay for their 'supposed' knowledge of the earth because they're the only ones with the means to find out for sure. It's not as if the government is, for example, the head church of Scientology, and we are their followers, but we pay to be so.

And, have you actually considered the resources it would take to patrol and defend this Ice Wall alone? What about upholding the conspiracy altogether? We know the earth is large, so you would need the manpower of billions JUST to keep the Ice Wall manned 24/7. Not to mention you would have to hold complete sway over the entire scientific community, as well as all of the documentation, research, experiments, textbooks, personal journals, what have you, at your disposal for proofing. These two segments alone would be a feat larger than all of the undertakings of human history combined.

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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2009, 08:00:11 PM »
Tell me then, why is the Earth not a planet?

It has an orbit around the sun, the moon has an orbit around us, and we spin on an axis.
FET is a geocentric theory.

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And before you suggest, I'm not reading your FAQ again, or doing a search through billions of flame posts looking for the answer.

Then don't expect anymore answers from the regulars.
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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2009, 08:46:30 PM »
What was the question?

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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2009, 11:36:04 PM »
What was the question?

How are other planets/the sun/other stars Shperea?

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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2009, 11:39:42 PM »
Straight from the FAQ noob.  Learn it, use it, love it.  Any more brilliant questions, or can I begin to ignore you now?

Q: "Why are other celestial bodies round but not the Earth?"

A: The Earth is not one of the other planets. The Earth is special and unlike the other bodies in numerous ways.


Q: "What about the stars, sun and moon and other planets? Are they flat too? What are they made of?"

A: The sun and moon, each 32 miles in diameter, circle Earth at a height of 3000 miles at its equator. They are located midway between the North Pole and the ice wall. Each functions similar to a "spotlight," with the sun radiating "hot light" and the moon "cold light." As they are spotlights, they only give light out over a certain are which explains why some parts of the Earth are dark when others are light. Their apparent rising and setting are caused by optical illusions.


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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2009, 11:44:33 PM »
I have your FAQ open, and your belief is quite irrational. If the sun is above the Earth, and constantly traveling in a circle, what guides it, and howwould it deviate from a set path?

Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2009, 12:32:51 AM »
Straight from the FAQ noob.  Learn it, use it, love it.  Any more brilliant questions, or can I begin to ignore you now?

Q: "Why are other celestial bodies round but not the Earth?"

A: The Earth is not one of the other planets. The Earth is special and unlike the other bodies in numerous ways.


Q: "What about the stars, sun and moon and other planets? Are they flat too? What are they made of?"

A: The sun and moon, each 32 miles in diameter, circle Earth at a height of 3000 miles at its equator. They are located midway between the North Pole and the ice wall. Each functions similar to a "spotlight," with the sun radiating "hot light" and the moon "cold light." As they are spotlights, they only give light out over a certain are which explains why some parts of the Earth are dark when others are light. Their apparent rising and setting are caused by optical illusions.



Is the Earth special like all the people who actually think this theory is actually plausible?

First off, you suggest the sun and moon are spotlights. Let's accept this for a moment and look at the surface of the earth. Lets say we have a map of the flat earth, and we take a flashlight. We stand really far away and point the flashlight at the map. What do we see? We see a circle of light with edges gradating out into darkness, because of the distance of the light source. Now, since the sun and moon are both circles when we look at them, the shape of the light they projected would also strike objects maintaining this shape.

So we have our flat earth, and our circular sun and moon. It is 7:00 AM on solstice morning in Toronto, Ontario. It's fairly light outside. Tim decides to go visit his uncle, who lives a great distance away in New Liskeard, a small city directly north of Toronto. When he gets there, he notices that a significant amount of time has passed, yet it is barely lighter outside then when he left home. He has only traveled north on his journey. He looks up into the sky, assuring himself "Well, since the sun is a spotlight, I'll just look for the light in the sky." Having thought this, he keeps traveling north until he has found night again. He looks up into the sky, looking in the direction he came and see nothing. "What is this!?!?" thinks Tim. "Surely, the sun is a spotlight, so I must be able to see it still, even if the earth is flat and its not shining on me! I should be able to see it projecting its ray down toward where I came from, but I can't!" This obviously doesn't happen naturally, so we must conclude that the suns' light runs perpendicular to the equator. Like a scanners' laser scanning a document, it must then logically move across the surface of the earth in a uniform north-south beam.

But wait! I thought the sun and moon were spotlights! And they are round! So if they are round, yet they are spotlights, then they must project circles of light on the earth, because it is flat! They are indeed smaller in diameter then the length of the earth. But this phenomena never occurs! Light moves across the earth in bands!

So, with this knowledge then, we can ask how are both the most extreme Easts and Wests alight at the same time? If the sun moves above the earth on some sort of cosmic rail path, then how does it project its light to the other side? Is there some kind of rift on either side of the earth in space that the sun and moon pass through when they reach one side to instantly get back to the other?

One more thing. The moon is a spotlight. We know this, it must be true! It is one of the necessary components needed by the flat earth theory for it to work! But wait. I'm looking at the night sky. I see the moon, but it's not a circle! Oh my! It looks like a crescent! What is the cause of this strange occurrence? Is there, perhaps, some kind of slider on the face of the spotlight that shifts with the solar wind patterns? Or does the government have giant machinery in place to methodically shroud some of the moon from us each night to uphold this blasphemous theory of a spherical earth? 

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Now to stop the theorizing. The reason that we know the sun is larger then us because to find an edge of its ray, we must go so far away as to not be able to see it anymore. Then, if we look at where we came from, we see no light shining down from space, we see darkness. There is one conclusion to make here, the slow curve of the earth hides the sun from us as we pass the farthest face it's rays are shining on. The sun shines on the earth in faces. And regarding the government conspiracy machinery that hides the moon from us each night. That's obviously untrue, because if such a structure were to exist, we would either see it's supports during the day because of the sheer size it would have to be, OR, mankind must have gone into space and installed a satellite controlled by the government, which, according to you lovable FE'ers, we can't do. So whats blocking that chunk of the moon each night? The shadow on this wonderful sphere called Earth.

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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2009, 05:18:17 AM »
Is the Earth special like all the people who actually think this theory is actually plausible?

I was actually willing to read and respond to this but when you start with an insult no one gives a flying fuck what you say.

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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2009, 05:33:48 AM »
Is the Earth special like all the people who actually think this theory is actually plausible?

I was actually willing to read and respond to this but when you start with an insult no one gives a flying fuck what you say.

Pretend for a moment that there was no insult and think about what you'd type in response......


.....oh dear. You have no logical answer [better not respond then and use the insult as an excuse]

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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2009, 05:53:27 AM »
Is the Earth special like all the people who actually think this theory is actually plausible?

I was actually willing to read and respond to this but when you start with an insult no one gives a flying fuck what you say.

Pretend for a moment that there was no insult and think about what you'd type in response......


.....oh dear. You have no logical answer [better not respond then and use the insult as an excuse]

I just enjoy trolling the trolls. Another fallacy of those who come here. You expect everyone is a FER, or you expect that everyone is here merely to debate this shit. I hangout in the lower threads and am mainly here to just goof off. However, I do notice the same bullshit posted on a bi-daily basis by new people in the upper five threads and it makes me laugh.

So call it what you want but I am not the one to ask for a logical answer to his question. My comment still stands though, no one is going to give a shit what you say if your post is full of insults, bad grammar, and faggotry.

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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2009, 08:55:15 AM »
Straight from the FAQ noob.  Learn it, use it, love it.  Any more brilliant questions, or can I begin to ignore you now?

Q: "Why are other celestial bodies round but not the Earth?"

A: The Earth is not one of the other planets. The Earth is special and unlike the other bodies in numerous ways.


But this doesn't explain why. It just tells me earth is 'special'.

Does anybody here answer questions? All I'm seeing is ''LOL GO REED DAH FAQ NOOBZ'' and people attempting to swerve the topic to something different

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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2009, 09:01:30 AM »
Is the Earth special like all the people who actually think this theory is actually plausible?

I was actually willing to read and respond to this but when you start with an insult no one gives a flying fuck what you say.

Pretend for a moment that there was no insult and think about what you'd type in response......


.....oh dear. You have no logical answer [better not respond then and use the insult as an excuse]

I just enjoy trolling the trolls. Another fallacy of those who come here. You expect everyone is a FER, or you expect that everyone is here merely to debate this shit. I hangout in the lower threads and am mainly here to just goof off. However, I do notice the same bullshit posted on a bi-daily basis by new people in the upper five threads and it makes me laugh.

So call it what you want but I am not the one to ask for a logical answer to his question. My comment still stands though, no one is going to give a shit what you say if your post is full of insults, bad grammar, and faggotry.

There was nothing wrong with his grammar, it was perfectly readable. And I'm guessing you did read it all but as usual, no answer. And all we get from people here is being called 'noobs' because we don't instantly read the faq before asking perfectly ok questions, but when somebody insults you we're the bad guys?

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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2009, 09:18:52 AM »
Straight from the FAQ noob.  Learn it, use it, love it.  Any more brilliant questions, or can I begin to ignore you now?

Q: "Why are other celestial bodies round but not the Earth?"

A: The Earth is not one of the other planets. The Earth is special and unlike the other bodies in numerous ways.


But this doesn't explain why. It just tells me earth is 'special'.

Does anybody here answer questions? All I'm seeing is ''LOL GO REED DAH FAQ NOOBZ'' and people attempting to swerve the topic to something different

The question isn't the problem.  You just don't like the answer.  Its the same reason to why snakes dont have legs but lizards do.  Or why dogs bark and cats meow.  The similarities are there but they are two different things.  Just the like the earth and the rest of the planets?

Does that help noob?

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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2009, 09:25:00 AM »
Straight from the FAQ noob.  Learn it, use it, love it.  Any more brilliant questions, or can I begin to ignore you now?

Q: "Why are other celestial bodies round but not the Earth?"

A: The Earth is not one of the other planets. The Earth is special and unlike the other bodies in numerous ways.


But this doesn't explain why. It just tells me earth is 'special'.

Does anybody here answer questions? All I'm seeing is ''LOL GO REED DAH FAQ NOOBZ'' and people attempting to swerve the topic to something different

The question isn't the problem.  You just don't like the answer.  Its the same reason to why snakes dont have legs but lizards do.  Or why dogs bark and cats meow.  The similarities are there but they are two different things.  Just the like the earth and the rest of the planets?

Does that help noob?

The Earth is not an animal that has just evolved into a flat shape. For the earth to be a flat shape, while every other planet/moon is a sphere is just ludicrous. Just like EVERY OTHER PLANET the earth started as a BALL of gas.

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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2009, 09:25:57 AM »

The Earth is not an animal that has just evolved into a flat shape. For the earth to be a flat shape, while every other planet/moon is a sphere is just ludicrous. Just like EVERY OTHER PLANET the earth started as a BALL of gas.

According to Round Earth Theory.

How does that apply to Flat Earth Theory again?

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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2009, 09:43:25 AM »
How would you explain the horizon? Surely if the earth was perfectly flat I would be able to see a lot more into the distance when outside.

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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2009, 09:52:57 AM »
That has been asked three times today, do you even read other threads? Just to avoid the BAWWfest, no you wouldn't.
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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2009, 09:54:53 AM »
That has been asked three times today, do you even read other threads? Just to avoid the BAWWfest, no you wouldn't.

What was the answer in these other topics? ''Read the FAQ'' doesn't count

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Re: Yet another question topic
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2009, 10:04:04 AM »
Light refraction.