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Quote from: Paizuri on August 14, 2008, 09:54:48 AM

1.)  If the Earth is traveling upward at a rate of 1G, wouldn't we
 a. Get closer to the stars etc.
 b. Hit things as we travel
 c. Move into a different area of the universe
 
2.)  Do you guys tell the people you know in real life that you believe the Earth is flat?   (not trying to be offensive, I'm honestly curious about this)

1.)
 a. No.
 b. Yes, they're called meteors.
 c. Yes.

2.) No.

In order for us to not hit the stars (or get closer to them at least) the stars and more or less every planetary body would need to be traveling at the same constant speed.

I realize that meteors and other such space debris hits us, but I was referring to things such as other planets, and black holes, etc.

Of course in the current round earth model we move to different parts of the universe, but it's on an orbit of the sun, we never stray too far from our current position in the universe.  I was more saying "Wouldn't we end up in a different galaxy".  What happens when we run out of milky way ... we'd notice that.

You are aware that the entire milky way is moving in RET, right?

You are aware that the entire milky way is moving in RET, right?

I believe that's more of an expansion than movement.  Could be wrong though.

You are. In any case, the rest of the universe is accelerating too in FET.

You are. In any case, the rest of the universe is accelerating too in FET.

All in the same direction (the one perceived by us as "up"), I assume.

I'm not quite certain, but I think it's accelerating outwards from a percieved middle point.

How else do you explain that penguins are unable to fly, and why penguin fossil records are basically non-existant? There are no penguin fossils because penguins didn't evolve - they were MADE.

Ostriches can't fly or chickens or emus or kiwis.  All spawns of the government I'm sure.

How else do you explain that penguins are unable to fly, and why penguin fossil records are basically non-existant? There are no penguin fossils because penguins didn't evolve - they were MADE.

No penguin fossil records?
http://www.eliasdesigns.com/penguins/history.htm
http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/200706293

I don't see why you need the acceleration in your theory at all.  I mean you guys believe in gravity, which as I understand it is caused by a objects of large mass causing a curvature of the space-time, which a giant flat earth would still do.  

Penguins were actually created in the 1960's by Russian scientists who combined the DNA of otters and birds.
The presence of penguins around the ice wall is actually a clever means of providing a reliable food source for conspiracy staff stationed there.

Penguins were deliberately engineered to be very easy to catch (hence their lack of flight), but also to be extremely efficient at catching and eating fish. It is economically easier for conspiracy ice-wall guards to have penguins indirectly harvest fish for them, then shoot or trap the fish-filled penguins with ease.

In answer to your other question - yes, March of the Penguins was filmed in a studio. Those penguins were probably animatronic replicas though, because the government can't afford to use large numbers of penguins except for feeding ice-wall guards.

Seeing as penguins have been documented as early as 1901....your argument falls apart...
See Discovery Expedition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_Expedition.

While I have no qualms about people believing in a flat earth, please for the love of god educate yourselves on basic knowledge, so that you don't shove your own foot in your mouth and destroy your theory.

While I have no qualms about people believing in a flat earth, please for the love of god educate yourselves on basic knowledge, so that you don't shove your own foot in your mouth and destroy your theory.

WHich happens on a daily if not hourly basis here by the FE'ers usually Tom, Narc, and Dogplatter.

Quote from: CrimsonKing

Ummm I think not Dogplatter, after the penguins, and insinuating that Dinosaurs had powertools and CAD/CAM  (in this thread, check it out), I think everyone has basically decided youre insane.

I NEVER implied that they did. My point, when I used that colourful analogy, as anyone with decent comprehension of English will gather, was that we have no idea what technology dinosaurs were capable of, so they could well have built boats.

No tools, no boats.

Quote from: EnCrypto

For 60 ton, 100 foot long dinosaurs, they are.

How do we know that it wasn't just the lightest dinosaurs that colonised? Baby versions of heavier dinosaurs (like Allosaurus and Brontosaurus) may have been escorted across the sea by more responsible, but smaller, adult dinosaurs (like Deinonychus or Protoceratops).

How do you explain the fact that large dinosaurs fossiles have been discovered all over the world. Since you have fossiles of large dinosaurs in more than one continent, then you understand the rest. They would have had to build bigger and multiple boat, fleets if you will. This would mean serious organization skills. This would mean intelligence. Then you understand the rest. This would leave some evidence of an intelligent, possibly civilized society. Why, they would have port 'cities' if you will. And there is really no evidence that they made these ports.

OH and to get to those ports, they would also have to understand nagivation. They would know basic elementary math. But the theory is that the Dino governments suppressed the knowledge of the earth being flat.

Do FE'ers think early man lived in the time of dinosaurs??

Do we know for sure that they actually died out? In the "Alternative Science" forum at this very moment, a thread by Dionysios is discussing the possibility that dinosaurs lived well into the middle ages and may still be alive today (under the pseudonyms of "dragons", "thunderbirds" and so on).

Yeah, but what intelligent, boat-building dinosaur would accidentally drown itself in a lake, or die by freezing in some stupidly cold place? A very stupid one, that's what.

Stupid people go out in such fantastic ways. Drowning, freezing to death..... *sigh*

Quote from: Dogplatter on July 13, 2006, 10:47:30 AM

Quote from: CrimsonKing

Ummm I think not Dogplatter, after the penguins, and insinuating that Dinosaurs had powertools and CAD/CAM  (in this thread, check it out), I think everyone has basically decided youre insane.

I NEVER implied that they did. My point, when I used that colourful analogy, as anyone with decent comprehension of English will gather, was that we have no idea what technology dinosaurs were capable of, so they could well have built boats.

No tools, no boats.

Quote from: Dogplatter on July 13, 2006, 11:26:45 AM

Quote from: EnCrypto

For 60 ton, 100 foot long dinosaurs, they are.

How do we know that it wasn't just the lightest dinosaurs that colonised? Baby versions of heavier dinosaurs (like Allosaurus and Brontosaurus) may have been escorted across the sea by more responsible, but smaller, adult dinosaurs (like Deinonychus or Protoceratops).

How do you explain the fact that large dinosaurs fossiles have been discovered all over the world. Since you have fossiles of large dinosaurs in more than one continent, then you understand the rest. They would have had to build bigger and multiple boat, fleets if you will. This would mean serious organization skills. This would mean intelligence. Then you understand the rest. This would leave some evidence of an intelligent, possibly civilized society. Why, they would have port 'cities' if you will. And there is really no evidence that they made these ports.

OH and to get to those ports, they would also have to understand nagivation. They would know basic elementary math. But the theory is that the Dino governments suppressed the knowledge of the earth being flat.

Do FE'ers think early man lived in the time of dinosaurs??

Quote from: Dogplatter on July 13, 2006, 03:33:33 PM

Do we know for sure that they actually died out? In the "Alternative Science" forum at this very moment, a thread by Dionysios is discussing the possibility that dinosaurs lived well into the middle ages and may still be alive today (under the pseudonyms of "dragons", "thunderbirds" and so on).

Yeah, but what intelligent, boat-building dinosaur would accidentally drown itself in a lake, or die by freezing in some stupidly cold place? A very stupid one, that's what.

Stupid people go out in such fantastic ways. Drowning, freezing to death..... *sigh*

you need to keep an open mind...

what kinda cities that we have now would last over 65 million years?

also,not all dinosaurs need to have developed...look at dinosauroids  troodon etc:reptilians?

after all,humans can do all those things,but can other primates?

xx

How else do you explain that penguins are unable to fly, and why penguin fossil records are basically non-existant? There are no penguin fossils because penguins didn't evolve - they were MADE.

Penguins can't fly because they don't need to. They have survived without it this far, haven't they? Were chickens also created by Russian scientists?

There are no fossils because the government Ice-Wall guards won't let any archeologists down there, of course! At least, that would be the case if your theory were true, so I'm not sure why you even had to bring that up.

In the real world, they haven't really dug up Antarctica yet. Although I'm sure that in a few months Sarah Palin will find some fossils. 

Quote from: Dogplatter on July 13, 2006, 11:26:45 AM

Quote from: EnCrypto

For 60 ton, 100 foot long dinosaurs, they are.

How do we know that it wasn't just the lightest dinosaurs that colonised? Baby versions of heavier dinosaurs (like Allosaurus and Brontosaurus) may have been escorted across the sea by more responsible, but smaller, adult dinosaurs (like Deinonychus or Protoceratops).

How do you explain the fact that large dinosaurs fossiles have been discovered all over the world. Since you have fossiles of large dinosaurs in more than one continent, then you understand the rest. They would have had to build bigger and multiple boat, fleets if you will. This would mean serious organization skills. This would mean intelligence. Then you understand the rest. This would leave some evidence of an intelligent, possibly civilized society. Why, they would have port 'cities' if you will. And there is really no evidence that they made these ports.

You didn't even read the excerpt you're quoting, did you?

Here:

How do we know that it wasn't just the lightest dinosaurs that colonised? Baby versions of heavier dinosaurs (like Allosaurus and Brontosaurus) may have been escorted across the sea by more responsible, but smaller, adult dinosaurs (like Deinonychus or Protoceratops).

OH and to get to those ports, they would also have to understand nagivation. They would know basic elementary math.

So do migratory birds understand basic elementary math? They manage intercontinental navigation just fine, and incidentally, are direct descendants of dinosaurs.

So do migratory birds understand basic elementary math? They manage intercontinental navigation just fine, and incidentally, are direct descendants of dinosaurs.

Aren't we all?

Quote from: Dogplatter on September 09, 2008, 03:31:31 AM

So do migratory birds understand basic elementary math? They manage intercontinental navigation just fine, and incidentally, are direct descendants of dinosaurs.

Aren't we all?

No...

Dinosaurs weren't before mammals?

Wow I'm amazed.

Dogplatter, do you mean to say those little fairy penguins living in Australia that were here when the settlers landed 200+ years ago are actually Russian creations sent back in time?

We really are in trouble if the reds can do that.

Wow I'm amazed.

Dogplatter, do you mean to say those little fairy penguins living in Australia that were here when the settlers landed 200+ years ago are actually Russian creations sent back in time?

We really are in trouble if the reds can do that.

In Soviet Russia, Penguins build YOU.

So do migratory birds understand basic elementary math? They manage intercontinental navigation just fine, and incidentally, are direct descendants of dinosaurs.

OK Ive been reading up about this since the facepalm post.  Everything I've read said dinosaurs came before mammals.  So I stand by that statement.  Also in my reading I have come to find out that the "extinction" event killed half of the species on earth and all the dinosaurs except for modern birds.  So with that evidence I would say that birds are not decedents of dinosaurs.  Dogplatter's statement is incorrect.

Nice quote.  Looks like a win for me.

Nice quote.  Looks like a win for me.

I'd reason with you if you were making any sort of sense at all.

Okay, I wasn't going to read through this whole topic so a few things...

Pangaea existed. It has been proved by geologists and archaelogists. This also explains for dinosaur fossils being found all over the world. The dinosaurs died on one supercontinent and were then split up as the continent split. FET cannot be true as the 'Ice ring' is solid ground with a hell of a lot of ice frozen on it. Fair enough, in both models Antartica/The ice ring is far away from the Sun and receives little heat. BUT, for FET to be true, this ground would have had to expanded to make way for the splitting of Pangaea. As there are no gaps in the supposed ice ring, this is impossible.

Also, dinosaurs would not have been capable of inter-continental travel. Building boats requires the use of advanced mathematics and opposable thumbs. I can tell you now, dinosaurs lacked both opposable thumbs and any grasp on mathematics. They were hunters, just as animals are today. Their main aim was not to socialise or find a cure for cancer, but to live by eating what they could, when they could and continuing the species.