The Big Bang

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Roundy the Truthinessist

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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #60 on: February 23, 2009, 10:00:33 AM »
So what do you think happened before God said "Let there be light" then?
Time is not a factor for God, only for us.

So time didn't exist before God created the universe?  ???
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #61 on: February 23, 2009, 10:02:03 AM »
So what do you think happened before God said "Let there be light" then?
Time is not a factor for God, only for us.

So time didn't exist before God created the universe?  ???
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #62 on: February 23, 2009, 10:05:20 AM »
So what do you think happened before God said "Let there be light" then?
Time is not a factor for God, only for us.

So time didn't exist before God created the universe?  ???
I know this is a trap

How so?
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #63 on: February 23, 2009, 11:21:32 AM »
Why is matter so evenly disperced over the Univers because every explosion we have seen has been very random?
Someone give a medal to Astrotard Jones over here. He has reached a whole new level of stupid.

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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #64 on: February 23, 2009, 11:53:35 AM »
Just because we don't know what happened "before" the big bang does not mean that it has to be god. It does not actually give evidence to god. i just means we don't know. People used to think lightning was caused by god. We know better now. But it demonstrates the point. Just because right now we don't know how does not mean we should give credit to god.
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #65 on: February 23, 2009, 02:23:22 PM »
So what do you think happened before God said "Let there be light" then?
Time is not a factor for God, only for us.

So time didn't exist before God created the universe?  ???
I know this is a trap

How so?
He could hear Ackbar in the background.
http://www.entertonement.com/clips/30308/Admiral-Ackbar/Return-of-the-Jedi/Admiral-Ackbar-It%27s-a-Trap

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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #66 on: February 23, 2009, 02:29:50 PM »
So what do you think happened before God said "Let there be light" then?
Time is not a factor for God, only for us.

So time didn't exist before God created the universe?  ???
I know this is a trap

It's not a "trap", you fucking idiot, it's a logical argument showing that you are incorrect in believing that the big bang theory is incorrect without proof of its invalidity.
Here's an explanation for ya. Lurk moar. Every single point you brought up has been posted, reposted, debated and debunked. There is a search function on this forum, and it is very easy to use.

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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #67 on: February 24, 2009, 07:36:37 AM »
Why is matter so evenly disperced over the Univers because every explosion we have seen has been very random?
Someone give a medal to Astrotard Jones over here. He has reached a whole new level of stupid.
For that you deserve a dumbass medal. Matter is so evenly dispersed over the Universe that it baffles Scientists.
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #68 on: February 24, 2009, 08:33:04 AM »
I do hope that you actually know how dumb you look saying that.
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #69 on: February 24, 2009, 08:37:23 AM »
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Matter in the Universe seems to be mainly clumped together in galaxies of various sizes, ranging from dwarf galaxies of about 1-3 kpc to giant galaxies of 30-50 kpc (in visual size). These galaxies are again clumped together in groups, which in turn gathers in clusters. There are also indications of clusters grouping in superclusters. Clustering of galaxies into groups is typical for the distribution of galaxies in the Universe. Studies show that less than 10-20 per cent of the galaxies do not belong to any group, often referred to as ``field'' galaxies.

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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #70 on: February 24, 2009, 09:39:24 AM »
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Matter in the Universe seems to be mainly clumped together in galaxies of various sizes, ranging from dwarf galaxies of about 1-3 kpc to giant galaxies of 30-50 kpc (in visual size). These galaxies are again clumped together in groups, which in turn gathers in clusters. There are also indications of clusters grouping in superclusters. Clustering of galaxies into groups is typical for the distribution of galaxies in the Universe. Studies show that less than 10-20 per cent of the galaxies do not belong to any group, often referred to as ``field'' galaxies.

http://trond.hjorteland.com/thesis/node6.html
But there is matter in every single direction. In every single explosion we have seen, there is a very random displacement of matter. But if there was a big bang, it makes sense that there would be some places in the Sky where there is nothing but empty space. But there isn't, there is matter everywhere.
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #71 on: February 24, 2009, 09:40:37 AM »
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Matter in the Universe seems to be mainly clumped together in galaxies of various sizes, ranging from dwarf galaxies of about 1-3 kpc to giant galaxies of 30-50 kpc (in visual size). These galaxies are again clumped together in groups, which in turn gathers in clusters. There are also indications of clusters grouping in superclusters. Clustering of galaxies into groups is typical for the distribution of galaxies in the Universe. Studies show that less than 10-20 per cent of the galaxies do not belong to any group, often referred to as ``field'' galaxies.

http://trond.hjorteland.com/thesis/node6.html
But there is matter in every single direction. In every single explosion we have seen, there is a very random displacement of matter. But if there was a big bang, it makes sense that there would be some places in the Sky where there is nothing but empty space. But there isn't, there is matter everywhere.

The fail in this post...  :-\
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #72 on: February 24, 2009, 09:45:52 AM »
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Matter in the Universe seems to be mainly clumped together in galaxies of various sizes, ranging from dwarf galaxies of about 1-3 kpc to giant galaxies of 30-50 kpc (in visual size). These galaxies are again clumped together in groups, which in turn gathers in clusters. There are also indications of clusters grouping in superclusters. Clustering of galaxies into groups is typical for the distribution of galaxies in the Universe. Studies show that less than 10-20 per cent of the galaxies do not belong to any group, often referred to as ``field'' galaxies.

http://trond.hjorteland.com/thesis/node6.html
But there is matter in every single direction. In every single explosion we have seen, there is a very random displacement of matter. But if there was a big bang, it makes sense that there would be some places in the Sky where there is nothing but empty space. But there isn't, there is matter everywhere.

The fail in this post...  :-\
You suck at debating. Your just saying fail to something you don't understand. Are you trying to refute my claims? no. your just saying fail. Good job, faggot.
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #73 on: February 24, 2009, 09:51:36 AM »
I think you've got something a little mixed up here. You are the one trying to refute something that you don't understand, and I am not trying to refute your claims because they are faulty. I'm not here to teach you about the Big Bang, but I suggest actually reading up on it from a non-biased source before you start failing at refuting it. Creationist propaganda isn't going to give you a good view of what the theory actually stipulates.
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #74 on: February 24, 2009, 09:52:52 AM »
I think you've got something a little mixed up here. You are the one trying to refute something that you don't understand, and I am not trying to refute your claims because they are faulty. I'm not here to teach you about the Big Bang, but I suggest actually reading up on it from a non-biased source before you start failing at refuting it. Creationist propaganda isn't going to give you a good view of what the theory actually stipulates.
I got this information from the History chnnel, which was doing a special on the Big bang. so it's not propoganda, and your just uninformed on the subject.
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #75 on: February 24, 2009, 09:57:56 AM »
You know, your previous posts tell another story.
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #76 on: February 24, 2009, 10:03:30 AM »
The history channel also did show on how the moon landings are faked. Just because s few scientist go on a show and say something does not make it true.
and before you mention the moon landing myth busters proved all the evidence they had does not actually prove anything.
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #77 on: February 24, 2009, 10:04:34 AM »
You know, your previous posts tell another story.
You don't understand it. thats why you are confused.Let another smarter Atheist take this up.
Same with Optimisticcynic
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #78 on: February 24, 2009, 10:07:07 AM »
You know, your previous posts tell another story.
You don't understand it. thats why you are confused.Let another smarter Atheist take this up.
Same with Optimisticcynic

Have you had any physics education past high school level? Has a physicist ever explained the big bang to you?

The history channel also did show on how the moon landings are faked. Just because s few scientist go on a show and say something does not make it true.
and before you mention the moon landing myth busters proved all the evidence they had does not actually prove anything.

Actually, mythbusters aren't scientifically rigorous. I still don't believe the conspiracy theorists, but they only poured gasoline on the proverbial fire, imo. Although, they did it per popular demand, so I exempt them from blame.
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #79 on: February 24, 2009, 10:07:55 AM »
But there is matter in every single direction. In every single explosion we have seen, there is a very random displacement of matter. But if there was a big bang, it makes sense that there would be some places in the Sky where there is nothing but empty space. But there isn't, there is matter everywhere.

Are you aware of the difference between a chemical explosion and the expansion of space?

I got this information from the History chnnel, which was doing a special on the Big bang. so it's not propoganda, and your just uninformed on the subject.

The Big Bang is not history. Please get better sources. Even reading Wikipedia would do you some good, it seems.

You don't understand it. thats why you are confused.Let another smarter Atheist take this up.
Same with Optimisticcynic

Quit stereotyping atheists as believers in the Big Bang theory.
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #80 on: February 24, 2009, 10:17:04 AM »
I still want my question answered. If the universe in the sense that before the big bang existed in the form of a singularity or other mass could not have always been, then what created God? You cannot argue that the universe couldn't have always been without accepting that, by proxy, your god must have been created by something as well, or secede that both could have always been.

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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #81 on: February 24, 2009, 10:18:27 AM »
I still want my question answered. If the universe in the sense that before the big bang existed in the form of a singularity or other mass could not have always been, then what created God? You cannot argue that the universe couldn't have always been without accepting that, by proxy, your god must have been created by something as well, or secede that both could have always been.

Yes he can. He's a Christian, his arguments don't need to be logical.
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #82 on: February 24, 2009, 10:20:15 AM »
I still want my question answered. If the universe in the sense that before the big bang existed in the form of a singularity or other mass could not have always been, then what created God? You cannot argue that the universe couldn't have always been without accepting that, by proxy, your god must have been created by something as well, or secede that both could have always been.

Yes he can. He's a Christian, his arguments don't need to be logical.

That would work if he were arguing against someone who was also illogical, however, he's not and must conform else be branded an idiot. Oh wait...

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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #83 on: February 24, 2009, 10:25:08 AM »
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Matter in the Universe seems to be mainly clumped together in galaxies of various sizes, ranging from dwarf galaxies of about 1-3 kpc to giant galaxies of 30-50 kpc (in visual size). These galaxies are again clumped together in groups, which in turn gathers in clusters. There are also indications of clusters grouping in superclusters. Clustering of galaxies into groups is typical for the distribution of galaxies in the Universe. Studies show that less than 10-20 per cent of the galaxies do not belong to any group, often referred to as ``field'' galaxies.

http://trond.hjorteland.com/thesis/node6.html
But there is matter in every single direction. In every single explosion we have seen, there is a very random displacement of matter. But if there was a big bang, it makes sense that there would be some places in the Sky where there is nothing but empty space. But there isn't, there is matter everywhere.
We are in a galaxy which is a irregular in the universe. it is a group of stars in a sea of nothing. I consider that a irregularity. The reason however that there aren't blank spaces in the sky is we are in this irregularity with a high concentration of stars. why would there be a dark point in the sky  if the only place were life is likely to evolve is in a large group of stars. So of course the sky would not have empty spots even if there was empty spots in the universe.
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #84 on: February 24, 2009, 10:45:43 AM »
We are in a galaxy which is a irregular in the universe. it is a group of stars in a sea of nothing. I consider that a irregularity. The reason however that there aren't blank spaces in the sky is we are in this irregularity with a high concentration of stars. why would there be a dark point in the sky  if the only place were life is likely to evolve is in a large group of stars. So of course the sky would not have empty spots even if there was empty spots in the universe.

This is irrelevant anyway, as the Big Bang theory makes the opposite prediction to the one KingMan is saying it does.
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #85 on: February 24, 2009, 10:47:14 AM »
I still want my question answered. If the universe in the sense that before the big bang existed in the form of a singularity or other mass could not have always been, then what created God? You cannot argue that the universe couldn't have always been without accepting that, by proxy, your god must have been created by something as well, or secede that both could have always been.

Yes he can. He's a Christian, his arguments don't need to be logical.
You're an Atheist. None of your Arguments are logical.
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #86 on: February 24, 2009, 10:49:19 AM »
You're an Atheist. None of your Arguments are logical.

Wow. Just wow.
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #87 on: February 24, 2009, 10:49:42 AM »
You're an Atheist. None of your Arguments are logical.

I'd be glad to walk you through the logic in one of my posts, if you can find one that you don't understand.
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #88 on: February 24, 2009, 10:50:06 AM »
The funny thing is that even here, the "matter everywhere" argument looks completely retarded. Look up in the sky for a bit at night, and it becomes apparent that there is matter, but there are vast stretches of nothingness in between those massive specks.

I still want my question answered. If the universe in the sense that before the big bang existed in the form of a singularity or other mass could not have always been, then what created God? You cannot argue that the universe couldn't have always been without accepting that, by proxy, your god must have been created by something as well, or secede that both could have always been.

Yes he can. He's a Christian, his arguments don't need to be logical.
You're an Atheist. None of your Arguments are logical.

Come on, stop being retarded.

"Invisible man in the sky did it. Also, there's a part of your body that's not really there, but it's eternal and very real etc." < "Physics and chemistry did it"

on a scale of lack of logic? lol
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Re: The Big Bang
« Reply #89 on: February 24, 2009, 10:51:35 AM »
The funny thing is that even here, the "matter everywhere" argument looks completely retarded. Look up in the sky for a bit at night, and it becomes apparent that there is matter, but there are vast stretches of nothingness in between those massive specks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_medium
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