Cthulhu

How do I pronounce Ph'nglui mglw'nafh C'thulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn?

Do you even know what it means?

Why was this moved? This is clearly discrimination by infidel Abrahamists.

Do you even know what it means?

In the House of R'Iyeh, Dead Cthulhu sleeps.

Quote from: Snackpack on February 18, 2009, 04:33:07 PM

Do you even know what it means?

"In the house of R'lyeh, Dead C'thulhu waits dreaming."

Fixed.

That's the literal translation, yes, but both are commonly accepted.

One must be alive to sleep.

Cthulhu is alive.

Cthulhu is alive.

Dead Cthulhu is alive?

It's just an epithet, Dread or Great are also used.

    That is not dead which can eternal lie.
    And with strange aeons even death may die.

He is most certainly alive. In fact it was he that placed the other Old Ones in sleep before him.

It's just an epithet, Dread or Great are also used.

What is the use of an epithet which is antonymous to its subject's actual qualities?

"Dead" is metaphorical and does not apply as it does with us. Mere human words cannot adequately describe Great Cthulhu's current state.

"Dead" is metaphorical and does not apply as it does with us. Mere human words cannot adequately describe Great Cthulhu's current state.

Metaphorical for what? "Alive" and "dead" together describe the state of everything in existence and are mutually exclusive; by the very definition of "dead" as something which is not alive, there is nothing in a state which is neither alive nor dead, nor is there anything in a state which is both alive and dead. If Cthulhu is alive, he is not dead; if he is dead, he is not alive and therefore cannot sleep.

Quote from: Proleg on February 19, 2009, 06:26:33 AM

"Dead" is metaphorical and does not apply as it does with us. Mere human words cannot adequately describe Great Cthulhu's current state.

Metaphorical for what? "Alive" and "dead" together describe the state of everything in existence and are mutually exclusive; by the very definition of "dead" as something which is not alive, there is nothing in a state which is neither alive nor dead, nor is there anything in a state which is both alive and dead. If Cthulhu is alive, he is not dead; if he is dead, he is not alive and therefore cannot sleep.

Alive and dead designate a very small portion of our planet. Most things are neither. Or both.

Most things are neither.

Example?

Or both.

Example?

Quote from: Raist on February 19, 2009, 06:31:54 AM

Most things are neither.

Example?

Quote from: Raist on February 19, 2009, 06:31:54 AM

Or both.

Example?

Are you alive?

Quote from: Raist on February 19, 2009, 06:31:54 AM

Most things are neither.

Example?

A stone.

Quote from: Raist on February 19, 2009, 06:31:54 AM

Or both.

Example?

The comatose.

Are you alive?

As a complete entity, yes.

Quote from: Robosteve on February 19, 2009, 06:33:33 AM

Quote from: Raist on February 19, 2009, 06:31:54 AM

Most things are neither.

Example?

A stone.

A stone is dead, if one defines "dead" to mean "not alive". In any case, a stone is not alive, and therefore cannot sleep.

Quote from: Robosteve on February 19, 2009, 06:33:33 AM

Quote from: Raist on February 19, 2009, 06:31:54 AM

Or both.

Example?

The comatose.

The comatose are not dead.

Quote from: Proleg on February 19, 2009, 06:26:33 AM

"Dead" is metaphorical and does not apply as it does with us. Mere human words cannot adequately describe Great Cthulhu's current state.

Metaphorical for what? "Alive" and "dead" together describe the state of everything in existence and are mutually exclusive; by the very definition of "dead" as something which is not alive, there is nothing in a state which is neither alive nor dead, nor is there anything in a state which is both alive and dead. If Cthulhu is alive, he is not dead; if he is dead, he is not alive and therefore cannot sleep.

Death to Great Cthulhu is not death to us mortals, fool.

Quote from: Raist on February 19, 2009, 06:34:46 AM

Are you alive?

As a complete entity, yes.

Quote from: General Douchebag on February 19, 2009, 06:35:57 AM

Quote from: Robosteve on February 19, 2009, 06:33:33 AM

Quote from: Raist on February 19, 2009, 06:31:54 AM

Most things are neither.

Example?

A stone.

A stone is dead, if one defines "dead" to mean "not alive". In any case, a stone is not alive, and therefore cannot sleep.

Quote from: General Douchebag on February 19, 2009, 06:35:57 AM

Quote from: Robosteve on February 19, 2009, 06:33:33 AM

Quote from: Raist on February 19, 2009, 06:31:54 AM

Or both.

Example?

The comatose.

The comatose are not dead.

Yet you are composed of things that are not alive. Your finger nails are dead, your hair is dead. When you get down small enough, every living part is made up of non living parts.

Death to Great Cthulhu is not death to us mortals, fool.

Death is a human concept; if you wish to apply it in a way that does not apply to humans, do not refer to it as "death".

Yet you are composed of things that are not alive. Your finger nails are dead, your hair is dead. When you get down small enough, every living part is made up of non living parts.

Obviously. Those things cannot sleep the way the overall (living) entity can.

Quote from: Proleg on February 19, 2009, 06:39:46 AM

Death to Great Cthulhu is not death to us mortals, fool.

Death is a human concept; if you wish to apply it in a way that does not apply to humans, do not refer to it as "death".

It is the closest word in our limited language that applies. Of course, the Old Ones are able to describe it perfectly in their own tongue, but any attempt by a human to do so results in insanity and eventual suicide.

It is the closest word in our limited language that applies. Of course, the Old Ones are able to describe it perfectly in their own tongue, but any attempt by a human to do so results in insanity and eventual suicide.

Why not invent a new human word to mean "death as it applies to Cthulhu"? We have 26 letters in the alphabet; surely a permutation of such letters may be found that is distinguishable from all others which are currently in use both in written and verbal communication?

Quote from: Proleg on February 19, 2009, 06:48:07 AM

It is the closest word in our limited language that applies. Of course, the Old Ones are able to describe it perfectly in their own tongue, but any attempt by a human to do so results in insanity and eventual suicide.

Why not invent a new human word to mean "death as it applies to Cthulhu"? We have 26 letters in the alphabet; surely a permutation of such letters may be found that is distinguishable from all others which are currently in use both in written and verbal communication?

You are free to join and offer such a suggestion to the high priest if you are so adamant in your pedantry.

Of course, the Old Ones are able to describe it perfectly in their own tongue, but any attempt by a human to do so results in insanity and eventual suicide.

I imagine it would go something like this...

"Thatgh gagn rogh Graghghhfhfh Cthulhu goagogsgn," or just any old gibberish.

Quote from: Proleg on February 19, 2009, 06:48:07 AM

Of course, the Old Ones are able to describe it perfectly in their own tongue, but any attempt by a human to do so results in insanity and eventual suicide.

I imagine it would go something like this...

"Thatgh gagn rogh Graghghhfhfh Cthulhu goagogsgn," or just any old gibberish.

Your mockery has not gone unnoticed.

You are free to join and offer such a suggestion to the high priest if you are so adamant in your pedantry.

I wasn't aware the Church of Cthulhu had the final say regarding the correct use of the English language.

Quote from: Proleg on February 19, 2009, 06:55:19 AM

You are free to join and offer such a suggestion to the high priest if you are so adamant in your pedantry.

I wasn't aware the Church of Cthulhu had the final say regarding the correct use of the English language.

You are obviously not aware of a lot of things.

Death to Great Cthulhu is not death to us mortals, fool.

Good. When I've finished raeping you I'l raep the great Great Cthulhu.