Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009

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Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« on: February 16, 2009, 06:17:21 AM »
As many of you know, a colision between an american satelite and an russian satelite happened 800km above the surface of the Earth on February 10th, 2009. Well, in the past few days, some witnesses have seen and shot what it can be debris coming from that colision.

That comes from a french canadian website: http://lcn.canoe.ca/ (EDIT: sorry but the link before didn't seem to work when we clicked on it)

EDIT: Here is a video http://lcn.canoe.ca/cgi-bin/player/video.cgi?file=20090216-082308&alt=1
« Last Edit: February 16, 2009, 08:07:52 AM by grifoli »
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Re: Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2009, 06:26:44 AM »
Funny how everyone knows exactly what this is, but for some reason a giant fireball in the Texas sky has everyone puzzled.
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Re: Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2009, 11:46:58 PM »
As many of you know, a colision between an american satelite and an russian satelite happened 800km above the surface of the Earth on February 10th, 2009. Well, in the past few days, some witnesses have seen and shot what it can be debris coming from that colision.

That comes from a french canadian website: http://lcn.canoe.ca/ (EDIT: sorry but the link before didn't seem to work when we clicked on it)

EDIT: Here is a video http://lcn.canoe.ca/cgi-bin/player/video.cgi?file=20090216-082308&alt=1

What makes you think that whatever that is in the video is a piece of satellite debris as opposed to one of the thousands of meteorites which hits the earth's atmosphere every day?

I actually saw a shooting star just the other night. Must have been another piece of satellite, right?
« Last Edit: February 17, 2009, 01:53:21 AM by Tom Bishop »

Re: Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2009, 07:04:19 AM »
As many of you know, a colision between an american satelite and an russian satelite happened 800km above the surface of the Earth on February 10th, 2009. Well, in the past few days, some witnesses have seen and shot what it can be debris coming from that colision.

That comes from a french canadian website: http://lcn.canoe.ca/ (EDIT: sorry but the link before didn't seem to work when we clicked on it)

EDIT: Here is a video http://lcn.canoe.ca/cgi-bin/player/video.cgi?file=20090216-082308&alt=1

What makes you think that whatever that is in the video is a piece of satellite debris as opposed to one of the thousands of meteorites which hits the earth's atmosphere every day?

I actually saw a shooting star just the other night. Must have been another piece of satellite, right?

A large meteorite just happened to collide with earth's atmosphere right after two satellites collided?

Re: Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2009, 07:28:57 AM »
As many of you know, a colision between an american satelite and an russian satelite happened 800km above the surface of the Earth on February 10th, 2009. Well, in the past few days, some witnesses have seen and shot what it can be debris coming from that colision.

That comes from a french canadian website: http://lcn.canoe.ca/ (EDIT: sorry but the link before didn't seem to work when we clicked on it)

EDIT: Here is a video http://lcn.canoe.ca/cgi-bin/player/video.cgi?file=20090216-082308&alt=1

What makes you think that whatever that is in the video is a piece of satellite debris as opposed to one of the thousands of meteorites which hits the earth's atmosphere every day?

I actually saw a shooting star just the other night. Must have been another piece of satellite, right?
But how many of those meteorites ae bright enough to see, and then how many of those are giant fireballs?
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Re: Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2009, 07:33:45 AM »
As many of you know, a colision between an american satelite and an russian satelite happened 800km above the surface of the Earth on February 10th, 2009. Well, in the past few days, some witnesses have seen and shot what it can be debris coming from that colision.

That comes from a french canadian website: http://lcn.canoe.ca/ (EDIT: sorry but the link before didn't seem to work when we clicked on it)

EDIT: Here is a video http://lcn.canoe.ca/cgi-bin/player/video.cgi?file=20090216-082308&alt=1

What makes you think that whatever that is in the video is a piece of satellite debris as opposed to one of the thousands of meteorites which hits the earth's atmosphere every day?

I actually saw a shooting star just the other night. Must have been another piece of satellite, right?
i saw a shooting star the other night too and it made me wonder if it was a piece of the satellites.  but i'm nowhere near texas, surely they can track this space debris and determine areas where it might reenter the atmosphere.  i wonder if texas would be in the area where the debris could fall?

Re: Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2009, 08:09:29 AM »
As many of you know, a colision between an american satelite and an russian satelite happened 800km above the surface of the Earth on February 10th, 2009. Well, in the past few days, some witnesses have seen and shot what it can be debris coming from that colision.

That comes from a french canadian website: http://lcn.canoe.ca/ (EDIT: sorry but the link before didn't seem to work when we clicked on it)

EDIT: Here is a video http://lcn.canoe.ca/cgi-bin/player/video.cgi?file=20090216-082308&alt=1

What makes you think that whatever that is in the video is a piece of satellite debris as opposed to one of the thousands of meteorites which hits the earth's atmosphere every day?

I actually saw a shooting star just the other night. Must have been another piece of satellite, right?

A meteorite that looks like a fireball ? It looks like this:

Quote from: Neil Armstrong
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.

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Re: Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2009, 09:07:13 AM »
As many of you know, a colision between an american satelite and an russian satelite happened 800km above the surface of the Earth on February 10th, 2009. Well, in the past few days, some witnesses have seen and shot what it can be debris coming from that colision.

That comes from a french canadian website: http://lcn.canoe.ca/ (EDIT: sorry but the link before didn't seem to work when we clicked on it)

EDIT: Here is a video http://lcn.canoe.ca/cgi-bin/player/video.cgi?file=20090216-082308&alt=1

What makes you think that whatever that is in the video is a piece of satellite debris as opposed to one of the thousands of meteorites which hits the earth's atmosphere every day?

I actually saw a shooting star just the other night. Must have been another piece of satellite, right?

A meteorite that looks like a fireball ? It looks like this:



Didn't the U.S. military already say pretty clearly that whatever was coming down in Texas was not from the satellite collisions? They are saying that the debris should stay in "orbit".

Conveniently that gives random people no way to examine the inner workings of one of these so-called "satellites".

Re: Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2009, 09:52:09 AM »

Didn't the U.S. military already say pretty clearly that whatever was coming down in Texas was not from the satellite collisions? They are saying that the debris should stay in "orbit".

Conveniently that gives random people no way to examine the inner workings of one of these so-called "satellites".

A satelite can stay in orbit with a specific speed and specific angle, depending how far the satellite is from the surface of the Earth and depending of its mass. I won't give you all the maths, I refer you to this great engineer book: Vector Mechanics for Engineers: Dynamics by Ferdinand P. Beer.

The fact is that, with an elastic colision, it modifies the original speed and angle of these satelittes/debris. And it can happen that their new speed/angle do not let them staying in orbit, that's why they can eventually crash on Earth.
Quote from: Neil Armstrong
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.

Re: Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2009, 09:56:42 AM »

Didn't the U.S. military already say pretty clearly that whatever was coming down in Texas was not from the satellite collisions? They are saying that the debris should stay in "orbit".

Conveniently that gives random people no way to examine the inner workings of one of these so-called "satellites".

A satelite can stay in orbit with a specific speed and specific angle, depending how far the satellite is from the surface of the Earth and depending of its mass. I won't give you all the maths, I refer you to this great engineer book: Vector Mechanics for Engineers: Dynamics by Ferdinand P. Beer.

The fact is that, with an elastic colision, it modifies the original speed and angle of these satelittes/debris. And it can happen that their new speed/angle do not let them staying in orbit, that's why they can eventually crash on Earth.
The FAA gave orders to pilots to watch for falling debris. They were expecting some to fall to Earth.
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Re: Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2009, 10:15:23 AM »
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a large meteorite just happened to collide with earth's atmosphere right after two satellites collided?

First of all, we can't tell how large that meteorite is in the video, and secondly this was about a week after the satellites allegedly collided. Hardly meaningful or connected when thousands of meteorites hit the earth's atmosphere every single day.

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A meteorite that looks like a fireball ? It looks like this:

That's very similar what the video in the OP looked like. However, the meteorite in the OP was significantly less pronounced.

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The FAA gave orders to pilots to watch for falling debris. They were expecting some to fall to Earth.

Yes, I'm sure pilots were dodging those falling satellite pieces left and right like a warzone.  ::)
« Last Edit: February 17, 2009, 10:22:49 AM by Tom Bishop »

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Re: Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2009, 02:29:41 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/falling_debris

It wasn't debris

Thanks for posting this article. That thread is now ended hehe.

We can continue to debate on other threads ;)
Quote from: Neil Armstrong
It suddenly struck me that that tiny pea, pretty and blue, was the Earth. I put up my thumb and shut one eye, and my thumb blotted out the planet Earth. I didn't feel like a giant. I felt very, very small.

Re: Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2009, 07:23:55 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/falling_debris

It wasn't debris

Thanks for posting this article. That thread is now ended hehe.

We can continue to debate on other threads ;)

Yes the thread is ended and it is also the first time I have seem Tom Bishop to win a debate.

Re: Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2009, 10:32:29 AM »

Yes the thread is ended and it is also the first time I have seem Tom Bishop to win a debate.

I noticed this too.

There's a first time for everything I suppose.

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Re: Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2009, 11:09:58 AM »
Tom doesn't win debates so much as he causes the other side to give up out of frustration.  However, he has been known to point out legitimate errors in some REer's arguments from time to time.
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Re: Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2009, 06:52:13 PM »
I personally live in Texas. I noticed nothing unusual about the sky on the tenth.
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Re: Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2009, 09:23:23 PM »
I personally live in Texas. I noticed nothing unusual about the sky on the tenth.
Same here, but then again I was inside around that time so something could of happened.

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Re: Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2009, 05:21:10 PM »
I am inside and out at various times. I also did not hear one peep about anyone else I know mentioning it.
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Re: Debris in Texas's sky after satelites colision in Feb 10th, 2009
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2009, 12:00:14 AM »
What part of Texas was this observed in?