Gravitational pull.

You are the one making the claim, not me.

You are the one making the claim, not me.

I know that you can read but I'm starting to have doubts that you can't understand what you read. I didn't make the claim. tehflatearth was the first to say so and I just provided the source. But as usual behavioral pattern with FE advocates they demand force feeding and haven't any will to move itself for getting food. Too bad. As I said - I didn't claim anything and if you want something then go and get it. I pointed the way where it is. And if you don't want source then don't ask for it. It's simple.

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 07, 2009, 08:15:11 AM

You are the one making the claim, not me.

I know that you can read but I'm starting to have doubts that you can't understand what you read. I didn't make the claim. tehflatearth was the first to say so and I just provided the source. But as usual behavioral pattern with FE advocates they demand force feeding and haven't any will to move itself for getting food. Too bad. As I said - I didn't claim anything and if you want something then go and get it. I pointed the way where it is. And if you don't want source then don't ask for it. It's simple.

Typical RE'er.  All talk, no proof.

Quote from: zork on February 07, 2009, 08:33:19 AM

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 07, 2009, 08:15:11 AM

You are the one making the claim, not me.

I know that you can read but I'm starting to have doubts that you can't understand what you read. I didn't make the claim. tehflatearth was the first to say so and I just provided the source. But as usual behavioral pattern with FE advocates they demand force feeding and haven't any will to move itself for getting food. Too bad. As I said - I didn't claim anything and if you want something then go and get it. I pointed the way where it is. And if you don't want source then don't ask for it. It's simple.

Typical RE'er.  All talk, no proof.

Typical FE supporter to lazy to look anything up

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 07, 2009, 11:02:54 AM

Quote from: zork on February 07, 2009, 08:33:19 AM

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 07, 2009, 08:15:11 AM

You are the one making the claim, not me.

I know that you can read but I'm starting to have doubts that you can't understand what you read. I didn't make the claim. tehflatearth was the first to say so and I just provided the source. But as usual behavioral pattern with FE advocates they demand force feeding and haven't any will to move itself for getting food. Too bad. As I said - I didn't claim anything and if you want something then go and get it. I pointed the way where it is. And if you don't want source then don't ask for it. It's simple.

Typical RE'er.  All talk, no proof.

Typical FE supporter to lazy to look anything up

Umm... TheEngineer isn't really an FE supporter.  In fact, most of his arguments don't have anything to do with the shape of the earth.  He mostly likes to harass the noobs by challenging their misconceptions about gravity/gravitation and GPS.  And he seems to think that they will learn better if they do the work themselves.

Sound about right, Engy?

Quote from: cbarnett97 on February 07, 2009, 12:40:59 PM

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 07, 2009, 11:02:54 AM

Quote from: zork on February 07, 2009, 08:33:19 AM

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 07, 2009, 08:15:11 AM

You are the one making the claim, not me.

I know that you can read but I'm starting to have doubts that you can't understand what you read. I didn't make the claim. tehflatearth was the first to say so and I just provided the source. But as usual behavioral pattern with FE advocates they demand force feeding and haven't any will to move itself for getting food. Too bad. As I said - I didn't claim anything and if you want something then go and get it. I pointed the way where it is. And if you don't want source then don't ask for it. It's simple.

Typical RE'er.  All talk, no proof.

Typical FE supporter to lazy to look anything up

Umm... TheEngineer isn't really an FE supporter.  In fact, most of his arguments don't have anything to do with the shape of the earth.  He mostly likes to harass the noobs by challenging their misconceptions about gravity/gravitation and GPS.  And he seems to think that you will learn better if you do the work yourself.

Sound about right, Engy?

I know exactly what he is.

Quote from: markjo on February 07, 2009, 01:07:03 PM

Quote from: cbarnett97 on February 07, 2009, 12:40:59 PM

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 07, 2009, 11:02:54 AM

Quote from: zork on February 07, 2009, 08:33:19 AM

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 07, 2009, 08:15:11 AM

You are the one making the claim, not me.

I know that you can read but I'm starting to have doubts that you can't understand what you read. I didn't make the claim. tehflatearth was the first to say so and I just provided the source. But as usual behavioral pattern with FE advocates they demand force feeding and haven't any will to move itself for getting food. Too bad. As I said - I didn't claim anything and if you want something then go and get it. I pointed the way where it is. And if you don't want source then don't ask for it. It's simple.

Typical RE'er.  All talk, no proof.

Typical FE supporter to lazy to look anything up

Umm... TheEngineer isn't really an FE supporter.  In fact, most of his arguments don't have anything to do with the shape of the earth.  He mostly likes to harass the noobs by challenging their misconceptions about gravity/gravitation and GPS.  And he seems to think that you will learn better if you do the work yourself.

Sound about right, Engy?

I know exactly what he is.

An arrogant jerk?

Quote from: cbarnett97 on February 07, 2009, 12:40:59 PM

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 07, 2009, 11:02:54 AM

Quote from: zork on February 07, 2009, 08:33:19 AM

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 07, 2009, 08:15:11 AM

You are the one making the claim, not me.

I know that you can read but I'm starting to have doubts that you can't understand what you read. I didn't make the claim. tehflatearth was the first to say so and I just provided the source. But as usual behavioral pattern with FE advocates they demand force feeding and haven't any will to move itself for getting food. Too bad. As I said - I didn't claim anything and if you want something then go and get it. I pointed the way where it is. And if you don't want source then don't ask for it. It's simple.

Typical RE'er.  All talk, no proof.

Typical FE supporter to lazy to look anything up

Umm... TheEngineer isn't really an FE supporter.  In fact, most of his arguments don't have anything to do with the shape of the earth.  He mostly likes to harass the noobs by challenging their misconceptions about gravity/gravitation and GPS.  And he seems to think that they will learn better if they do the work themselves.

Sound about right, Engy?

Omg, now apply that logic to every single FE'er and you might just stop failing at the game.

Quote from: cbarnett97 on February 07, 2009, 01:07:44 PM

Quote from: markjo on February 07, 2009, 01:07:03 PM

Quote from: cbarnett97 on February 07, 2009, 12:40:59 PM

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 07, 2009, 11:02:54 AM

Quote from: zork on February 07, 2009, 08:33:19 AM

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 07, 2009, 08:15:11 AM

You are the one making the claim, not me.

I know that you can read but I'm starting to have doubts that you can't understand what you read. I didn't make the claim. tehflatearth was the first to say so and I just provided the source. But as usual behavioral pattern with FE advocates they demand force feeding and haven't any will to move itself for getting food. Too bad. As I said - I didn't claim anything and if you want something then go and get it. I pointed the way where it is. And if you don't want source then don't ask for it. It's simple.

Typical RE'er.  All talk, no proof.

Typical FE supporter to lazy to look anything up

Umm... TheEngineer isn't really an FE supporter.  In fact, most of his arguments don't have anything to do with the shape of the earth.  He mostly likes to harass the noobs by challenging their misconceptions about gravity/gravitation and GPS.  And he seems to think that you will learn better if you do the work yourself.

Sound about right, Engy?

I know exactly what he is.

An arrogant jerk?

A Wiki educated Arrogant Jerk

Omg, now apply that logic to every single FE'er and you might just stop failing at the game.

Don't pretend that most of us don't know that already. Just because I play along doesn't mean that I'm "failing at the game"

Quote from: markjo on February 07, 2009, 01:07:03 PM

Umm... TheEngineer isn't really an FE supporter.  In fact, most of his arguments don't have anything to do with the shape of the earth.  He mostly likes to harass the noobs by challenging their misconceptions about gravity/gravitation and GPS.  And he seems to think that they will learn better if they do the work themselves.

Sound about right, Engy?

Omg, now apply that logic to every single FE'er and you might just stop failing at the game.

Maybe Engy doesn't argue specific FE/RE issues, but some FE'ers do. 

Quote from: Raist on February 07, 2009, 01:35:20 PM

Quote from: markjo on February 07, 2009, 01:07:03 PM

Umm... TheEngineer isn't really an FE supporter.  In fact, most of his arguments don't have anything to do with the shape of the earth.  He mostly likes to harass the noobs by challenging their misconceptions about gravity/gravitation and GPS.  And he seems to think that they will learn better if they do the work themselves.

Sound about right, Engy?

Omg, now apply that logic to every single FE'er and you might just stop failing at the game.

Maybe Engy doesn't argue specific FE/RE issues, but some FE'ers do. 

He only posts when he can somehow use the idea of the EP or the fact that GPS does not technically need to have satellites, that is it. And then he will only post 3-4 words and then laugh at the noobs who dont understand what point he is trying to make

Quote from: Raist on February 07, 2009, 01:35:20 PM

Quote from: markjo on February 07, 2009, 01:07:03 PM

Umm... TheEngineer isn't really an FE supporter.  In fact, most of his arguments don't have anything to do with the shape of the earth.  He mostly likes to harass the noobs by challenging their misconceptions about gravity/gravitation and GPS.  And he seems to think that they will learn better if they do the work themselves.

Sound about right, Engy?

Omg, now apply that logic to every single FE'er and you might just stop failing at the game.

Maybe Engy doesn't argue specific FE/RE issues, but some FE'ers do. 

Yet there is a huge connection there, maybe try to apply what you've learned about him to everyone else.

As the rolling stones said "does anybody remember laughter?"

As the rolling stones said "does anybody remember laughter?"

Nope.  Led Zeppelin.

Quote from: Raist on February 07, 2009, 02:56:56 PM

As the rolling stones said "does anybody remember laughter?"

Nope.  Led Zeppelin.

Did I seriously write rolling stones? Wow I am hung over. I've only listened to like 2 rolling stones songs in my life.

Typical RE'er.  All talk, no proof.

Do you question the existence of the book which I pointed to you - http://www.amazon.com/Invitation-Oceanography-Third-Paul-Pinet/dp/0763721360/ref=sr_11_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1234009273&sr=11-1 ?
 It's a book. It's a copyrighted material. So, I can't do copies of it and post them to public web. So, you must to go and get it from somewhere else. You asked for source, I gave it to you. What more do you want? I can't do copy/paste from book to here also because there is no way to verify from where I took that text. And that makes your only option to go and actually to look at source itself from somewhere. I don't quite understand what is so difficult about that? You can't read or what? Or do you have some disabilities which restrict you moving around and if this a case then d oyou have speaking disability and can't ask help from someone to go library and look it out for you? Or you can't buy things without parental consent? Talk about it or else I can't understand your reluctance to look at the book.

Technically you can quote it as long as you reference it.

 I did quote, not word by word but free adaption - among the other things talks about that undersea mountains draw water near itself because gravitational attraction. And because of this there are mound of water directly over the spot where the undersea mountain is and thus, the sea is not flat.
 And I referenced to the book at amazon.com. It didn't help.

uhhhh, you claimed it said something then gave a book. That isn't quoting.

Einstein said the Earth is flat. It is in his  memoirs. Read them. That's my quote and reference.

 And what difference it makes when I quote word by word from book? Result is same, there is slightly different text here and you ask again where is the source. I can't put physical object through cables for you to look. I can only say what book said or quote word by word from it. And both are exactly the same things. Only with different words. So, the only and only option is for you itself look at the book. Then you can be sure.

Einstein said the Earth is flat. It is in his  memoirs. Read them. That's my quote and reference.

Can you reference to me where his memories are? I referenced you to physically available book and I expect that you reference me also to something that I can touch with hands.

Quote from: Raist on February 07, 2009, 03:50:20 PM

Einstein said the Earth is flat. It is in his  memoirs. Read them. That's my quote and reference.

Can you reference to me where his memories are? I referenced you to physically available book and I expect that you reference me also to something that I can touch with hands.

Oh, Christ.  Memoirs, not memories. 

And what difference it makes when I quote word by word from book? Result is same, there is slightly different text here and you ask again where is the source. I can't put physical object through cables for you to look. I can only say what book said or quote word by word from it. And both are exactly the same things. Only with different words. So, the only and only option is for you itself look at the book. Then you can be sure.

Quote from: Raist on February 07, 2009, 03:50:20 PM

Einstein said the Earth is flat. It is in his  memoirs. Read them. That's my quote and reference.

Can you reference to me where his memories are? I referenced you to physically available book and I expect that you reference me also to something that I can touch with hands.

That would depend which belief system you describe to. As for what I actually said, a "memoir" is a book.

Quote from: zork on February 07, 2009, 03:55:40 PM

And what difference it makes when I quote word by word from book? Result is same, there is slightly different text here and you ask again where is the source. I can't put physical object through cables for you to look. I can only say what book said or quote word by word from it. And both are exactly the same things. Only with different words. So, the only and only option is for you itself look at the book. Then you can be sure.

Quote from: Raist on February 07, 2009, 03:50:20 PM

Einstein said the Earth is flat. It is in his  memoirs. Read them. That's my quote and reference.

Can you reference to me where his memories are? I referenced you to physically available book and I expect that you reference me also to something that I can touch with hands.

That would depend which belief system you describe to. As for what I actually said, a "memoir" is a book.

My bad, my eyes played a trick to me. Still, you didn't reference me to specific book as I did. Just said that there is Einstein Memoirs somewhere. And is the books title "Einsteins Memoirs" or something else? And yet still. You didn't answer my question, what difference is if I quote exactly from the book or do some slight changes or say shortly what the book says? Because as I said, you don't have any way to make sure from where I took these lines.

Quote from: Raist on February 07, 2009, 04:30:12 PM

Quote from: zork on February 07, 2009, 03:55:40 PM

And what difference it makes when I quote word by word from book? Result is same, there is slightly different text here and you ask again where is the source. I can't put physical object through cables for you to look. I can only say what book said or quote word by word from it. And both are exactly the same things. Only with different words. So, the only and only option is for you itself look at the book. Then you can be sure.

Quote from: Raist on February 07, 2009, 03:50:20 PM

Einstein said the Earth is flat. It is in his  memoirs. Read them. That's my quote and reference.

Can you reference to me where his memories are? I referenced you to physically available book and I expect that you reference me also to something that I can touch with hands.

That would depend which belief system you describe to. As for what I actually said, a "memoir" is a book.

My bad, my eyes played a trick to me. Still, you didn't reference me to specific book as I did. Just said that there is Einstein Memoirs somewhere. And is the books title "Einsteins Memoirs" or something else? And yet still. You didn't answer my question, what difference is if I quote exactly from the book or do some slight changes or say shortly what the book says? Because as I said, you don't have any way to make sure from where I took these lines.

Your short sum up was very vague and worded in a way that makes me doubt your understanding of the concept. I've seen many people misrepresent what a book meant simply because they lacked the ability to understand the author.

Your short sum up was very vague and worded in a way that makes me doubt your understanding of the concept. I've seen many people misrepresent what a book meant simply because they lacked the ability to understand the author.

That's your excuse? Come on. If you really want word by word quote then I can do that(although I can't believe how lazy and without any motivation to know something you guys are. And hypocrites, because all you do is reference do EnAG and never quote from it.) - Rocks are denser than water is, so any undersea mountain will "draw" water to it from all sides because of gravitational attraction. This creates a detectable mound of water over the submarine mountain.
 I also put another link on my first post with book name - http://www.esa.int/esapub/br/br199/br199.pdf but seems that this doesn't count. Also you can find other sources from web if you use keywords like "undersea mountain water gravitational attraction mound gravity". But you just can't. And don't want to. Sigh.
 

He only posts when he can somehow use the idea of the EP or the fact that GPS does not technically need to have satellites, that is it. And then he will only post 3-4 words and then laugh at the noobs who dont understand what point he is trying to make

Poor boy got smacked down a few times and all you can do now is insult?  Grow a set, kid.

A Wiki educated

My diploma would say otherwise.

Quote from: cbarnett97 on February 07, 2009, 01:57:35 PM

He only posts when he can somehow use the idea of the EP or the fact that GPS does not technically need to have satellites, that is it. And then he will only post 3-4 words and then laugh at the noobs who dont understand what point he is trying to make

Poor boy got smacked down a few times and all you can do now is insult?  Grow a set, kid.

Just because you refuse to admit when you are wrong does mean I got smacked down. and some sort of diploma from devry does not make you an expert in relativity

Just because you refuse to admit when you are wrong does mean I got smacked down. and some sort of diploma from devry does not make you an expert in relativity

Your comebacks, just like your reasoning, suck.

Quote from: TheEngineer on February 07, 2009, 07:07:06 PM

Quote from: cbarnett97 on February 07, 2009, 01:57:35 PM

He only posts when he can somehow use the idea of the EP or the fact that GPS does not technically need to have satellites, that is it. And then he will only post 3-4 words and then laugh at the noobs who dont understand what point he is trying to make

Poor boy got smacked down a few times and all you can do now is insult?  Grow a set, kid.

Just because you refuse to admit when you are wrong does mean I got smacked down. and some sort of diploma from devry does not make you an expert in relativity

Devry is a computer school, they don't do many engineering degrees, and most of their graduates don't go on to work on missiles.