Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #360 on: April 27, 2010, 07:41:31 AM »
Mizzle you annoy me to no extent:

Witnesses: His co-workers should also exist seeing as he did. So you can tack on his co-workers including his boss from his biography as witnesses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsutomu_Yamaguchi

Tomiko Morimoto:http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/a-13-2005-08-05-voa38-67539217.html

The pain they felt isnt fake, the US used a new weapon that they didnt know what it would cause. And since then people have been afraid to use it again knowing its powers. Modern day global fear rests solely on one weapon that everyone regrets making even the so called conspirators that you say dont exist. Everyone fears them, not just the public. And not just the people that saw it.


Photos of the aftermath, that is very hard to recreate with multiple bombs seeing as there is one single crater taken by Japanese military:

 http://mhpbooks.com/mobylives/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/hiroshima.jpg
http://themodulator.org/archives/hiroshima-damage.jpg

Nuclear Shadows (I'm not sure if this is the actual name but no other explosion can do it, the heat and thermal radiation and  speed of the shockwave/explosion leaves fire shadows of the peoples bodies and objects on stone. )

http://mastersofmedia.hum.uva.nl/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/hiroshima-shadow-2.png
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NO3URmUG7s0/RzASNFbMSCI/AAAAAAAAAME/fu6SN8WbeKA/s320/HiroshimaConcreteShadow.jpg
(The shadow of the pillars on this bridge also leave areas where the heat DIDNT scorch the bridge. The reason this bridge is still standing is because the heat of the blast extends much farther then the simple shockwave that causes building damage.: http://www.gensuikin.org/panel/12-2.jpg

Hope this changes your mind..

First of all, that guy should have been exposed to enough radiation to be killed in the first blast.
Secondly, he should have been exposed to enough radiation to be killed in the second blast.
He lived to be 94 years old.  You cannot tell me there was a nuclear fall out, when the guy lived and worked in Nagasaki for all those radioactive years and never died, if there is such a thing as nuclear fall out.  His wife died at age 93, purportedly from radiation complications as well.  Seriously?  That flies directly in the face of what should have happened to him.  He was 3km away from the drop zone in both blasts.

Black rain?  I don't know anything about this, but why would a nuclear explosion cause it to rain black particles?  A more likely explanation for this is un-combusted petroleum (or other fuel) from a massive fuel-air bomb.  This whole area would be environmentally devastated due to contamination, a much more likely scenario.

The second account says 'red/orange flash' as opposed to the blinding white light that is typically associated with nuclear bombs.

The first two photos:
I don't see one single crater in either of those photos.  They just look like some black and white photos of an area that was possibly hit by a fire storm.

Last three photos:
Observe in the first two photos, the shadows are outlines of objects that would have been in the way of the heat/blast, which is counter intuitive.
The last photo outlines the more likely scenario, that since the railing is in between the ground and the blast, the scorched parts are outside of what would be the railing's 'shadow.'  Basically, photo 3 is the inverse of photos 1 and 2.


@Malashenko:
Right, you have no reason to believe they are fake, so you wouldn't go out and look for information to the contrary.  However, once you realize that the US government and the Russian government don't care one single bit about their populations (this is evident especially in Russia.  See:  Communism) and only care about exploiting the weak and remaining in power, then you'll start to question what you once believed as well.
Don't get mad at me though, if the government decides to march you into a prison camp for your 'protection.'  I'll be the one outside the fence saying 'I told you so.'
Sorry for such a late response I forgot about this forum for awhile and my response. (Again, DOH.)

Firstly, he was exposed to radiation, but not ENOUGH to kill him. You can walk in radiated rain and still survive depending on your body and how healthy or unhealthy it is. He did die of radiation related happenings, Stomach Cancer and he also had other amounts of cancer in his body. People dont need to die immediately and suddenly because of radiation. Its different for everyone, if he didn't have radiation he may have lived to 100 years seeing how he has done WITH Radiation. Its a funny thing, and its real even if bombs aren't real, radiation is.

Black rain, a term used by survivors of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki to describe the nuclear fallout from the bombs, which initially occurred in the form of precipitation  Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rain

Also, the blinding white light didn't come in until modern bombs because we have evolved and fine tuned how we make our bombs. The reason there wasn't as much radiation as there is in modern bombs is because were making them deadlier. And the blinding white light is generally the initial flash that then fades to orange fiery like explosion, the initial flash is what causes the burn shadows.

Those photos were taken by the Japanese press and military, they even said it was the aftermath of the bomb. Unless the Japanese are involved too. Also, that doesnt look like a fire-bomb, none of those buildings are burnt,  there is no ash or char or burnt wood remains that I can see, just crumbled snapped and broken wood and frames of destroyed buildings. This is a good example as I dont see any ash:http://themodulator.org/archives/hiroshima-damage.jpg

Burnt wood generally leaves ash and char, I see none. And sadly I cant find a crater of it. I had found one many years ago but I cant for the life of me remember the search t  WARNING:Don't mistake some of the dirt on the ground wish ash, there is dirt in the background that may look like ask. Try looking near the buildings and not too far from them to avoid mixing dirt with ash.

Now I will explain what Nuclear Shadows are, (and they aren't even called nuclear shadows!) the initial intense heat wave and thermal heat and light from the explosion causes shadows of people burnt onto buildings, say they got knocked up against the building from the wave, they get burnt and their body catches fire and their outline is BURNT onto the building. Brutal, and horrible. (I figured out what they are! YAY! Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_burn )

Now, the bridge is from an fire wave of the explosion, the initial heat wave and thermal heat didn't cause anything onto that because the heat wave only burns the images of people or -CERTAIN- objects onto buildings. So the fire wave scorched the bridge causing said image that I linked. Causing the inverse you see. Also, photo one is the outline of a person knocked onto the stairs, his body isn't outlined because he probably got crunched up and knocked away.

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I'm sorry but this will be my last post I make in the argument, you are obviously a very heavy conspiracy theorist and nothing I say will probably make you believe. You said you were just open minded but your post of:
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Right, you have no reason to believe they are fake, so you wouldn't go out and look for information to the contrary.  However, once you realize that the US government and the Russian government don't care one single bit about their populations (this is evident especially in Russia.  See:  Communism) and only care about exploiting the weak and remaining in power, then you'll start to question what you once believed as well.
Don't get mad at me though, if the government decides to march you into a prison camp for your 'protection.'  I'll be the one outside the fence saying 'I told you so.'

That obviously shows your a firm believer that they are fake. And I dont like my government but I sure as hell know that they aren't communistic dictators ruling every inch of our life and putting us into prison camps. Nuclear Bombs are real, their deadly. And any non-insane non-terrorist soul is afraid of them, even our governments.
That would be a simulation of the fabric of space-time bending back upon itself

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #361 on: January 22, 2011, 10:26:46 PM »
if nuclear bombs are not real than how do u explain the bombing of Hiroshima??? and if nuclear bombs do not exist than does that mean that Einstein's theory of E equals MC squared is wrong? because they use that theory to make nukes...

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #362 on: January 22, 2011, 11:06:58 PM »
This thread is dumb. The idea of the technology is not what makes nukes scary, its the damage they did, which was real.
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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #363 on: January 22, 2011, 11:39:37 PM »
if nuclear bombs are not real than how do u explain the bombing of Hiroshima??? and if nuclear bombs do not exist than does that mean that Einstein's theory of E equals MC squared is wrong? because they use that theory to make nukes...

Before jumping into a thread you found on Google you should:

1. Check how old the thread is
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3. Not cover your answer in bright f***ing red
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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #364 on: January 23, 2011, 01:30:52 PM »
if nuclear bombs are not real than how do u explain the bombing of Hiroshima??? and if nuclear bombs do not exist than does that mean that Einstein's theory of E equals MC squared is wrong? because they use that theory to make nukes...
Brah, epic necro. there's a thread that amounts to the same thing on this or the second page. And they say Hiroshima was bombed heavily, just not nuked.
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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #365 on: January 23, 2011, 07:18:47 PM »
If Hiroshima hadn't been nuked, it would have more damage. In an attempt to make it more realistic, we would have bombed it as bad as we did the entirely undeserving city of Dresden. Read Slaughter-House Five.
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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #366 on: January 24, 2011, 08:52:05 AM »
If Hiroshima hadn't been nuked, it would have more damage. In an attempt to make it more realistic, we would have bombed it as bad as we did the entirely undeserving city of Dresden. Read Slaughter-House Five.
Dresden had no military industry, for sure. But it was full of retreating German troops falling back from Poland. So it was brutal, but not random.
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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #367 on: January 24, 2011, 09:22:58 AM »
explain the radiation, and accounts thereof. This is almost as lame a denying the holocaust.

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #368 on: February 17, 2011, 11:05:04 AM »
explain the radiation, and accounts thereof. This is almost as lame a denying the holocaust.

Is it impossible to put hot material in a conventional bomb before setting it off? That's not a very telling argument aginst the theory.

Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #369 on: February 27, 2011, 11:54:19 PM »
Man some of the responces in this thread have really baffled me. Most of them were very old, But they seemed to be men posing as intellectuals, argueing for the sake of argueing.
 There were alot of very valid points made, then people denying the facts only to post later that they actually believe the facts.
Im going to school in the radiology field, and I've been learning and experiencing quite A lot on the subject.(which I'm sure is more then 90% of the gentlemen on here can say, sorry)
Honestly, I'm hoping that this thread is a spoof and the arguements are like i said, for the sake of it. Or people having theories(perfectly fine and normal), but with no background or truly relevent experience.
Well, this thread is going on several years old, It's probably near dead by now. So I'm hoping.

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #370 on: February 28, 2011, 12:01:07 PM »
Man some of the responces in this thread have really baffled me. Most of them were very old, But they seemed to be men posing as intellectuals, argueing for the sake of argueing.
 There were alot of very valid points made, then people denying the facts only to post later that they actually believe the facts.
Im going to school in the radiology field, and I've been learning and experiencing quite A lot on the subject.(which I'm sure is more then 90% of the gentlemen on here can say, sorry)
Honestly, I'm hoping that this thread is a spoof and the arguements are like i said, for the sake of it. Or people having theories(perfectly fine and normal), but with no background or truly relevent experience.
Well, this thread is going on several years old, It's probably near dead by now. So I'm hoping.

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #371 on: February 28, 2011, 12:02:56 PM »
Man some of the responces in this thread have really baffled me. Most of them were very old, But they seemed to be men posing as intellectuals, argueing for the sake of argueing.
 There were alot of very valid points made, then people denying the facts only to post later that they actually believe the facts.
Im going to school in the radiology field, and I've been learning and experiencing quite A lot on the subject.(which I'm sure is more then 90% of the gentlemen on here can say, sorry)
Honestly, I'm hoping that this thread is a spoof and the arguements are like i said, for the sake of it. Or people having theories(perfectly fine and normal), but with no background or truly relevent experience.
Well, this thread is going on several years old, It's probably near dead by now. So I'm hoping.

It was dead until you decided to make an account just to revive it be smug.
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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #372 on: February 28, 2011, 10:05:30 PM »
Man some of the responces in this thread have really baffled me. Most of them were very old, But they seemed to be men posing as intellectuals, argueing for the sake of argueing.
 There were alot of very valid points made, then people denying the facts only to post later that they actually believe the facts.
Im going to school in the radiology field, and I've been learning and experiencing quite A lot on the subject.(which I'm sure is more then 90% of the gentlemen on here can say, sorry)
Honestly, I'm hoping that this thread is a spoof and the arguements are like i said, for the sake of it. Or people having theories(perfectly fine and normal), but with no background or truly relevent experience.
Well, this thread is going on several years old, It's probably near dead by now. So I'm hoping.

It was dead until you decided to make an account just to revive it be smug.
Again people assuming things. I've been reading forums on here for awhile. That just so happened to be my first post. And I'm not the one who revived it duder 8) But thats true there's alot of argueing on here lol, as for the shape of the world..gimme a break! Everyone knows It's flat ::)

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #373 on: March 01, 2011, 12:29:47 PM »
Man some of the responces in this thread have really baffled me. Most of them were very old, But they seemed to be men posing as intellectuals, argueing for the sake of argueing.
 There were alot of very valid points made, then people denying the facts only to post later that they actually believe the facts.
Im going to school in the radiology field, and I've been learning and experiencing quite A lot on the subject.(which I'm sure is more then 90% of the gentlemen on here can say, sorry)
Honestly, I'm hoping that this thread is a spoof and the arguements are like i said, for the sake of it. Or people having theories(perfectly fine and normal), but with no background or truly relevent experience.
Well, this thread is going on several years old, It's probably near dead by now. So I'm hoping.

It was dead until you decided to make an account just to revive it be smug.
Again people assuming things. I've been reading forums on here for awhile. That just so happened to be my first post. And I'm not the one who revived it duder 8) But thats true there's alot of argueing on here lol, as for the shape of the world..gimme a break! Everyone knows It's flat ::)

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #374 on: March 01, 2011, 09:29:35 PM »
If nukes don't exist then a lot of things don't make much sense. One needs to not only not have nuclear bombs, and nuclear power plants, but also nuclear reactors that are used to generate radioactive isotopes used in medicine (although some of those come from particle accelerators, not all types can do so.) I also have no idea how one would then go about explaining the existence of the Oklo natural fission reactor. And it then isn't clear what happened at Chernobyl (yeah, the USSR decided to simulate a serious nuclear accident and evacuate a large area for now reason). And I'd have to wonder how the americium in smoke detectors is made. And that's just for starters.

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #375 on: March 01, 2011, 09:50:47 PM »
If nukes don't exist then a lot of things don't make much sense. One needs to not only not have nuclear bombs, and nuclear power plants, but also nuclear reactors that are used to generate radioactive isotopes used in medicine (although some of those come from particle accelerators, not all types can do so.) I also have no idea how one would then go about explaining the existence of the Oklo natural fission reactor. And it then isn't clear what happened at Chernobyl (yeah, the USSR decided to simulate a serious nuclear accident and evacuate a large area for now reason). And I'd have to wonder how the americium in smoke detectors is made. And that's just for starters.

None of the examples are nukes, why wouldn't they exist ???
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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #376 on: March 01, 2011, 09:53:49 PM »


None of the examples are nukes, why wouldn't they exist ???

All of them rely on the exact same laws of physics. If nukes aren't possible then those shouldn't be possible either. Or if they are possible, we'd have to have been massively lied to about how they work, and there would need to be even larger conspiracy theories involved (including the medical establishment, the power industry, the smoke detector makers, among many others.)

Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #377 on: January 06, 2016, 11:18:46 PM »
As a 12 year old, I lived in Hawaii and was an eyewitness to Starfish Prime. As I recall, I was looking out the window and I saw the flash of the explosion it made shadows as sharp as from a flash camera but it was from above the tree that was in the back yard, and I turned to look out the bay windows to the street with tree in front yard too late to see there. I then ran out through the patio up the stairs to the pool area looked over the valley. Seeing that the streetlight were all dark and they were just beginning to flicker back on; no power was lost in the house, just that the street lights went out. That is how I remember it, and I canít think of any way of reproducing that across the entire valley which was about a mile at its broadest. Nuclear bombs are real!
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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #378 on: May 24, 2019, 06:59:05 AM »
Yes, the Starfish Prime nuclear explosion up in space caused a lot of damages at Hawaii, i.e. street lights went out according witnesses.

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #379 on: May 24, 2019, 08:35:43 AM »
Yes, nuclear bombs exist.

What a stupid discussion.
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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #380 on: May 24, 2019, 10:24:52 AM »
Nuclear weapons do not switch off street lights. I explain more at http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm .

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #381 on: May 26, 2019, 08:22:50 AM »
Nuclear weapons do not switch off street lights. I explain more at http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm .

A Nuclear explosion releases a large amount of electromagnetic radiation which can interact with large electrical grid systems. Such as overhead power supply cables ext. This can do anything from nothing to completely destroying the electrical grid if its big enough.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse


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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #382 on: May 27, 2019, 03:01:41 AM »
Nuclear weapons do not switch off street lights. I explain more at http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm .

A Nuclear explosion releases a large amount of electromagnetic radiation which can interact with large electrical grid systems. Such as overhead power supply cables ext. This can do anything from nothing to completely destroying the electrical grid if its big enough.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse

It sounds like bad science. When Hiroshima, Japan, was destroyed 6 August 1945 there was no electromagnetic radiation (LOL) interacting with the airplanes participating in the terror attacks. They made photos and returned safely home. At the ground zero 99.9% of the observers were vaporized but 0.1% survived and could testify how terrible it was. After having switched on the light.
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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #383 on: May 27, 2019, 03:36:20 AM »

When Hiroshima, Japan, was destroyed 6 August 1945 there was no electromagnetic radiation (LOL) interacting with the airplanes participating in the terror attacks.

I think it is awesome you have been able to fish the same school for four solid years.

I was on a long range boat one time and we got into a ferocious Dorado bite.
I caught a couple on a bare hook.
Two dudes got into an argument about the best lure to use on them.

The captain climbed down from the house and took a rod from one of them.
He was munching on an orange. Took a chunk of rind and pinned it on.
Threw it out 60 feet and reeled with a stutter retrieve. Bite, bam, swing and hook!
He handed the rod back and climbed back up to the house.

He didn't say a word.


Heiwa is absolutely owning all of you.

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #384 on: May 27, 2019, 04:30:42 AM »
                  

And, Mr Bullwinkle, would you deny us the right to publicise Heiwa's fine site? Here's a link http://heiwaco.com/, so there!


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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #385 on: May 27, 2019, 05:03:22 AM »
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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #386 on: May 27, 2019, 05:34:34 AM »

When Hiroshima, Japan, was destroyed 6 August 1945 there was no electromagnetic radiation (LOL) interacting with the airplanes participating in the terror attacks.

I think it is awesome you have been able to fish the same school for four solid years.

I was on a long range boat one time and we got into a ferocious Dorado bite.
I caught a couple on a bare hook.
Two dudes got into an argument about the best lure to use on them.

The captain climbed down from the house and took a rod from one of them.
He was munching on an orange. Took a chunk of rind and pinned it on.
Threw it out 60 feet and reeled with a stutter retrieve. Bite, bam, swing and hook!
He handed the rod back and climbed back up to the house.

He didn't say a word.


Heiwa is absolutely owning all of you.

Yes, this US B29 atomic bomber, after dropping the gadget 6 August 1945 on Hiroshima, should have dropped down to low level and taken a close look at what was left of the target and taken some photos. Pictures of clouds in the sky are nothing. I have been told there was some escort planes too, and they could also have taken a better look at the destruction. It is not everyday that you drop an atomic bomb on people and vaporize them in a FLASH. But there was no hurry! You could have returned the next day.
When US/UK bombed Dresden a night February 1945 they came back next morning to finish the job and even used low flying planes using automatic guns to slaughter Germans trying to escape on the roads. Churchill said that Dresden with its baroque cathedral was an important military target that had been overlooked since 1939. Freiberg i.Sa. 30 kms west with its arms industry making V2 equipment and airplane parts was left unharmed. My house there was never bombed at all I am happy to note. I sold it 2016.
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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #387 on: May 27, 2019, 05:46:24 AM »
If you enjoy tickling his balls have at it.
But I do hope that you checked his site out ;).

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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #388 on: May 28, 2019, 12:32:25 PM »
Nuclear weapons do not switch off street lights. I explain more at http://heiwaco.com/bomb.htm .

A Nuclear explosion releases a large amount of electromagnetic radiation which can interact with large electrical grid systems. Such as overhead power supply cables ext. This can do anything from nothing to completely destroying the electrical grid if its big enough.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_electromagnetic_pulse

It sounds like bad science. When Hiroshima, Japan, was destroyed 6 August 1945 there was no electromagnetic radiation (LOL) interacting with the airplanes participating in the terror attacks.
That's because the bombs used were quite small compared to later bombs. 

They made photos and returned safely home.
Actually, they did have quite a rough ride when the shock wave caught up with them.

At the ground zero 99.9% of the observers were vaporized but 0.1% survived and could testify how terrible it was. After having switched on the light.
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Re: Do Nuclear Bombs Exist?
« Reply #389 on: May 30, 2019, 09:05:25 PM »

Yes, your site is good source of bad science,

Yes, I describe at my website several cases where various authorities/experts use really bad science (pseudoscience) to fool and scare the general public, e.g. nuclear weapons 1945, space travel 1960's, ships sinking all the time, 911 collapses (2001) and a nuclear power plant breakdown 2011. It is very easy! Just make most info secret for various security reasons and then you can invent anything. The public is always ignorant and believes anything.