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Are you saying that if you had just traveled away from the Earth, to the moon, you wouldn't be emotional?

His communications while he was supposedly there were perfectly calm and collected. Are you suggesting that he traveled through space in such a flimsy contraption, landed on the moon and then had the nerve to give a spontaneous little speech about it being "one small step for man"? Yet he dissolves into a stuttering wreck during a mere press conference? Armstrong can obviously do passable voice-acting, but dissolves when he has to say his lines in front of a real live audience.

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Quote from: Trekky0623 on January 10, 2009, 08:22:12 AM

Are you saying that if you had just traveled away from the Earth, to the moon, you wouldn't be emotional?

His communications while he was supposedly there were perfectly calm and collected. Are you suggesting that he traveled through space in such a flimsy contraption, landed on the moon and then had the nerve to give a spontaneous little speech about it being "one small step for man"? Yet he dissolves into a stuttering wreck during a mere press conference? Armstrong can obviously do passable voice-acting, but dissolves when he has to say his lines in front of a real live audience.

Have you never been involved in something and while it was going on you were so focused on what had to be done that the reality of the situation didn't hit you until everything was complete?

Quote from: Cheryl Wiesbaden on January 10, 2009, 08:32:55 PM

Quote from: Trekky0623 on January 10, 2009, 08:22:12 AM

Are you saying that if you had just traveled away from the Earth, to the moon, you wouldn't be emotional?

His communications while he was supposedly there were perfectly calm and collected. Are you suggesting that he traveled through space in such a flimsy contraption, landed on the moon and then had the nerve to give a spontaneous little speech about it being "one small step for man"? Yet he dissolves into a stuttering wreck during a mere press conference? Armstrong can obviously do passable voice-acting, but dissolves when he has to say his lines in front of a real live audience.

Have you never been involved in something and while it was going on you were so focused on what had to be done that the reality of the situation didn't hit you until everything was complete?

if this is one of your arguments that the moon landing was fake then you're really struggling.  not that i know this for sure but i would imagine that he had been running through some ideas of what to say when he first stepped on the moon.  i know if i was in his position and knew the whole world was listening on television i would probably think of something to say beforehand. 

Quote from: Trekky0623 on January 10, 2009, 08:22:12 AM

Are you saying that if you had just traveled away from the Earth, to the moon, you wouldn't be emotional?

His communications while he was supposedly there were perfectly calm and collected. Are you suggesting that he traveled through space in such a flimsy contraption, landed on the moon and then had the nerve to give a spontaneous little speech about it being "one small step for man"? Yet he dissolves into a stuttering wreck during a mere press conference? Armstrong can obviously do passable voice-acting, but dissolves when he has to say his lines in front of a real live audience.

Judge not lest ye be judged. You have no idea what he was going through or thinking, so even beginning to use this as an argument is laughable.

Judge not lest ye be judged. You have no idea what he was going through or thinking, so even beginning to use this as an argument is laughable.

Psychology closely approximates one's mental state(s).

Quote from: C-Ray on January 12, 2009, 07:57:08 AM

Quote from: Cheryl Wiesbaden on January 10, 2009, 08:32:55 PM

Quote from: Trekky0623 on January 10, 2009, 08:22:12 AM

Are you saying that if you had just traveled away from the Earth, to the moon, you wouldn't be emotional?

His communications while he was supposedly there were perfectly calm and collected. Are you suggesting that he traveled through space in such a flimsy contraption, landed on the moon and then had the nerve to give a spontaneous little speech about it being "one small step for man"? Yet he dissolves into a stuttering wreck during a mere press conference? Armstrong can obviously do passable voice-acting, but dissolves when he has to say his lines in front of a real live audience.

Have you never been involved in something and while it was going on you were so focused on what had to be done that the reality of the situation didn't hit you until everything was complete?

if this is one of your arguments that the moon landing was fake then you're really struggling.  not that i know this for sure but i would imagine that he had been running through some ideas of what to say when he first stepped on the moon.  i know if i was in his position and knew the whole world was listening on television i would probably think of something to say beforehand. 

Even NASA admits the it was written beforehand so what is the big deal

The press conference was also scripted, yet he flubbed it. The question remains why he was so calm while on the moon and yet was practically wetting himself while on earth.

The press conference was also scripted, yet he flubbed it. The question remains why he was so calm while on the moon and yet was practically wetting himself while on earth.

He was focused on the job at hand but when he got back to earth we no longer had all of that adrenaline running through him talk to a soldier who has gone through combat and ask them what is was like while the fighting was happening and then ask them how they were a short time after that

The press conference was also scripted, yet he flubbed it. The question remains why he was so calm while on the moon and yet was practically wetting himself while on earth.

Um, because he was only with a few guys that he'd know for a long time when on the moon, and was nervous sitting in front of thousands of people?

(fyi, its called being shy, lots of people are)

He was focused on the job at hand but when he got back to earth we no longer had all of that adrenaline running through him talk to a soldier who has gone through combat and ask them what is was like while the fighting was happening and then ask them how they were a short time after that

Now you're just being silly.

Um, because he was only with a few guys that he'd know for a long time when on the moon, and was nervous sitting in front of thousands of people?

(fyi, its called being shy, lots of people are)

Exactly: he's alright acting in a contained environment around people he knows, but he gets stage fright while in front of large audiences that could call him on his bluff.

Quote from: cbarnett97 on January 12, 2009, 05:45:45 PM

He was focused on the job at hand but when he got back to earth we no longer had all of that adrenaline running through him talk to a soldier who has gone through combat and ask them what is was like while the fighting was happening and then ask them how they were a short time after that

Now you're just being silly.

Quote from: Oom19 on January 12, 2009, 05:49:57 PM

Um, because he was only with a few guys that he'd know for a long time when on the moon, and was nervous sitting in front of thousands of people?

(fyi, its called being shy, lots of people are)

Exactly: he's alright acting in a contained environment around people he knows, but he gets stage fright while in front of large audiences that could call him on his bluff.

Or, he's alright speaking infront of a camera, but not in front of thousands of people, you just agreed with my logic. 

Chalk up another win for RE.

The press conference was also scripted, yet he flubbed it. The question remains why he was so calm while on the moon and yet was practically wetting himself while on earth.

Because on the moon he wasn't surrounded by reporters. It is well known that Neil Armstrong likes his privacy.

If it was live, he would have been in front of millions of people. Further evidence that it was taped beforehand in a studio.

Chalk up another win for RE.

Classic case of premature ejaculation.

Quote from: cbarnett97 on January 12, 2009, 05:45:45 PM

He was focused on the job at hand but when he got back to earth we no longer had all of that adrenaline running through him talk to a soldier who has gone through combat and ask them what is was like while the fighting was happening and then ask them how they were a short time after that

Now you're just being silly.

ROFL

If it was live, he would have been in front of millions of people. Further evidence that it was taped beforehand in a studio.

But he didn't see them. The actual presence of people is way worse than them watching you through a TV. If you were smart you would have known that. But you aren't, so you didn't.

Quote from: Cheryl Wiesbaden on January 12, 2009, 06:22:31 PM

If it was live, he would have been in front of millions of people. Further evidence that it was taped beforehand in a studio.

But he didn't see them. The actual presence of people is way worse than them watching you through a TV. If you were smart you would have known that. But you aren't, so you didn't.

Its having people stare at you that gets at you. (Im also really shy)  But as long as you cant see the people its not bad.

We've won, thats that.

Quote from: KingMan on January 12, 2009, 06:24:38 PM

Quote from: Cheryl Wiesbaden on January 12, 2009, 06:22:31 PM

If it was live, he would have been in front of millions of people. Further evidence that it was taped beforehand in a studio.

But he didn't see them. The actual presence of people is way worse than them watching you through a TV. If you were smart you would have known that. But you aren't, so you didn't.

Its having people stare at you that gets at you. (Im also really shy)  But as long as you cant see the people its not bad.

We've won, thats that.

We have won utterly and completely.

Its having people stare at you that gets at you. (Im also really shy)  But as long as you cant see the people its not bad.

I agree. It's much more difficult to lie to people directly in front of you.

I'm glad that REers can finally recognize the moon landing for what it was: a shameless hoax.

Quote from: Oom19 on January 12, 2009, 06:26:47 PM

Its having people stare at you that gets at you. (Im also really shy)  But as long as you cant see the people its not bad.

I agree. It's much more difficult to lie to people directly in front of you.

I'm glad that REers can finally recognize the moon landing for what it was: a shameless hoax.

You really cannot read can you? Alright, I petition all REers to shun her. She is not worth our time. Talking to her is a waste of life force.

Cheryl, you have obviously never been in any sort of "pressure cooker" situation or you wouldn't be so narrow minded about this. People have different strengths and weaknesses. Of course he is going to be calm when he traveled to the moon. It was his job, and any sort of screw up in an operation like that could spell disaster. Being calm in those sorts of situations was probably one of the main reasons he was chosen; you can't exactly go apeshit whenever an alarm starts buzzing.

It is comparable to soldiers being diagnosed with "shell shock" after they had already returned from active duty. When you are in the heat of the moment, you aren't thinking about the big picture. Not the repercussions, not the fame of an historic mission, not even whether or not his hot blonde neighbour will sleep with him now that he's famous. He did his job, returned, and finally had time to sit back and think, "Wow, was I really just on the moon?" (Well, assuming all of this actually happened. He could be lying, of course, but this is far from proof).

You really cannot read can you? Alright, I petition all REers to shun this penguin. She is not worth our time. Talking to her is a waste of life force.

If you do not have anything constructive to add, don't post.

Cheryl, you have obviously never been in any sort of "pressure cooker" situation or you wouldn't be so narrow minded about this. People have different strengths and weaknesses. Of course he is going to be calm when he traveled to the moon. It was his job, and any sort of screw up in an operation like that could spell disaster. Being calm in those sorts of situations was probably one of the main reasons he was chosen; you can't exactly go apeshit whenever an alarm starts buzzing.

It is comparable to soldiers being diagnosed with "shell shock" after they had already returned from active duty. When you are in the heat of the moment, you aren't thinking about the big picture. Not the repercussions, not the fame of an historic mission, not even whether or not his hot blonde neighbour will sleep with him now that he's famous. He did his job, returned, and finally had time to sit back and think, "Wow, was I really just on the moon?" (Well, assuming all of this actually happened. He could be lying, of course, but this is far from proof).

Where did I state this was proof? I was only remarking on how disconcerting the whole thing was. Your "explanations" are hardly convincing, but you clearly hold degrees in psychology and know Armstrong on an intimate level or else you wouldn't be commenting, right? I'll have to just take your word for it.

Quote from: KingMan on January 12, 2009, 07:18:38 PM

You really cannot read can you? Alright, I petition all REers to shun this penguin. She is not worth our time. Talking to her is a waste of life force.

If you do not have anything constructive to add, don't post.

Quote from: Vladtheimpaler on January 12, 2009, 07:55:59 PM

Cheryl, you have obviously never been in any sort of "pressure cooker" situation or you wouldn't be so narrow minded about this. People have different strengths and weaknesses. Of course he is going to be calm when he traveled to the moon. It was his job, and any sort of screw up in an operation like that could spell disaster. Being calm in those sorts of situations was probably one of the main reasons he was chosen; you can't exactly go apeshit whenever an alarm starts buzzing.

It is comparable to soldiers being diagnosed with "shell shock" after they had already returned from active duty. When you are in the heat of the moment, you aren't thinking about the big picture. Not the repercussions, not the fame of an historic mission, not even whether or not his hot blonde neighbour will sleep with him now that he's famous. He did his job, returned, and finally had time to sit back and think, "Wow, was I really just on the moon?" (Well, assuming all of this actually happened. He could be lying, of course, but this is far from proof).

Where did I state this was proof? I was only remarking on how disconcerting the whole thing was. Your "explanations" are hardly convincing, but you clearly hold degrees in psychology and know Armstrong on an intimate level or else you wouldn't be commenting, right? I'll have to just take your word for it.

Then why are you commenting? That was the entire point of my post. Neither of us knew him, yet you seem to be able to read him like a book.

And my arguments are just as convincing as any other, since none of them can be substantiated in any way unless someone interrogates the truth out of armstrong. Any volunteers?

The onus is not on us. Feel free to psychoanalyze/interrogate the man and get back to us on your results...

Good luck getting to him, by the way.

The onus is not on us. Feel free to psychoanalyze/interrogate the man and get back to us on your results...

Good luck getting to him, by the way.

The onus should be on everyone. It's obvious you have no intention of progressing this theory on that statement alone.

But how did we get back to this? I'm not talking about burden of proof, it's about you somehow reading the emotions of someone from a press conference and by some astonishing coincidence it fits perfectly with the rest of FET. You are so convinced you are right, and so unwilling to even begin to consider that there are other possibilities.

Your explanations are much more complex and intimate than my own. On that basis alone, you should be the one attempting to provide evidence for them (even ignoring the fact that the burden is already on you to begin with).

Your explanations are much more complex and intimate than my own.

That's your opinion. This conspiracy and human emotions are both complex creatures. You accept yours as being more probable just as I do mine.

On that basis alone, you should be the one attempting to provide evidence for them (even ignoring the fact that the burden is already on you to begin with).

I have to prove...he's telling the truth? It's not my fault you don't believe him. I have no burden. The moon landing being faked doesn't affect me. If it's fake, it's fake. I'm merely trying to show you that there are other possibilities. You shoot down every other idea as if it's your job.

Quote from: Cheryl Wiesbaden on January 12, 2009, 08:27:43 PM

Your explanations are much more complex and intimate than my own.

That's your opinion. This conspiracy and human emotions are both complex creatures. You accept yours as being more probable just as I do mine.

There is no doubt that the Conspiracy exists though...

I have to prove...he's telling the truth? It's not my fault you don't believe him. I have no burden. The moon landing being faked doesn't affect me. If it's fake, it's fake. I'm merely trying to show you that there are other possibilities. You shoot down every other idea as if it's your job.

Sure, there are other possibilities...but what evidence is there to support them?