What shape is the sun?

Apologies if this has been asked, but it's not in the FAQs and not on any of the threads I could see.

Is the sun:

a) a sphere 32 miles in diameter?
b) more like my bedside lamp, ie a point source of light with some kind of reflector 32 miles in diameter, directing the light/heat Earthwards?
c) a flattish disk 32 miles in diameter seen as a circle from Earth since that is the profile presented?

Apologies if this has been asked, but it's not in the FAQs and not on any of the threads I could see.

Is the sun:

a) a sphere 32 miles in diameter?
b) more like my bedside lamp, ie a point source of light with some kind of reflector 32 miles in diameter, directing the light/heat Earthwards?
c) a flattish disk 32 miles in diameter seen as a circle from Earth since that is the profile presented?

the sune is supposed to be a ball of light that has a crater in the bottom that faces earth which allows it to direct light as a spotlight onto the earth, that may have changed but that is the last I heard from the FE'ers

God's spotlight?  Hey don't ask me, I'm just as confused as you are.

It is spherical.

It is spherical.

And how does a glowing ball only emit light in one specific direction again?

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Quote from: Johannes Kepler on January 10, 2009, 01:09:48 PM
It is spherical.

And how does a glowing ball only emit light in one specific direction again?

It doesn't...
That's why night time is only on average 12 hours, not on average 6 months.
You see, the Earth goes around the Sun, as well as around it's own axis. It takes 12 month to complete what's knowen as a 'year'.
Yes I'm being condecending.
Also, the Sun goes around the centre of the Galaxy, which itself seems to go around the centre of our local group.

Our planet is a small, insignificant ball of rock and water. We're not even sure if it's the place where life began.
We may well be only a light-year from the busiest Interstellar trade lanes for space faring Aliens, yet not know until we develop our own engines.

FE's fail to acknowledge the utter vastness, and magesty of the universe and that we are not the most important thing in it.

FE's fail to acknowledge the utter vastness, and magesty of the universe and that we are not the most important thing in it.

I, for one, have never denied any of that...

Quote from: Johannes Kepler on January 09, 2009, 07:09:48 PM

It is spherical.

And how does a glowing ball only emit light in one specific direction again?

It emits light in all directions.

Quote from: cbarnett97 on January 10, 2009, 10:30:03 PM

Quote from: Johannes Kepler on January 09, 2009, 07:09:48 PM

It is spherical.

And how does a glowing ball only emit light in one specific direction again?

It emits light in all directions.

So can you remind me how a glowing orb emiting light in all directions only hits the earth as a spotlight

Some of the light is bent away, so it acts like a spotlight

Some of the light is bent away, so it acts like a spotlight

and what is the magnitude of this force

Some of the light is bent away, so it acts like a spotlight

  You don't have illustration of this in your FAQ. You should put it there, it would be quite fascinating picture.

Quote from: Johannes Kepler on January 11, 2009, 11:34:12 AM

Some of the light is bent away, so it acts like a spotlight

and what is the magnitude of this force

How the hell should I know?

Quote from: cbarnett97 on January 11, 2009, 11:35:05 AM

Quote from: Johannes Kepler on January 11, 2009, 11:34:12 AM

Some of the light is bent away, so it acts like a spotlight

and what is the magnitude of this force

How the hell should I know?

Then how do you know that the light rays are being bent enough to create a spotlight on the earth if you do not have any sort of model to test these thing out with?

Quote from: cbarnett97 on January 11, 2009, 11:35:05 AM

Quote from: Johannes Kepler on January 11, 2009, 11:34:12 AM

Some of the light is bent away, so it acts like a spotlight

and what is the magnitude of this force

How the hell should I know?

You could attempt to work it out you know.

Actually this seems to be a big sticking point for most FEers. They seem incapable of doing any investigation except superficial stuff, enough to apparently support their ideas, but not enough to rigorously examine if their ideas are in any way sufficient to explain what they say it explains.

Take for instance the position of the rising sun from the equator at the equinox. One of the explanation is that something refracts the light of the sun so that it looks to come form due east. However, if you examine this beyond the superficial, you realise that it would also refract the light from other objects (stars, planets, moon etc). Also, as the Sun doe snot follow the same path through the sky as the Stars or the Moon or the Planets, then what should occur, if there was something that was arranges exactly so the sun would appear East at the Equinox, is that these other objects would not follow a smooth arc across the sky. But as they do, then the only way that an object/field/layer that could exist is if it has a refractive index the same as either the Atmosphere or empty space. That is, it does not refract the light any differently and so could not account for the position of the rising sun from the equator at the equinox.

This is just one example where a superficial examination (refraction does occur and if there was an object/field/layer in the correct position and orientation with the exactly correct refractive index - which is not the same as empty space or the atmosphere) seems to support FET,but on closer inspection fails it completely.

FE can't agree on the shape of the sun.

FE can't agree on the shape of the sun.

Anybody can look the sun with a telescope (and a solar filter) to watch his shape. I own a Bushnell Northstar 4.5" telescope and I've already look at the sun with a solar filter. I confirm to everybody here that the sun looks like this:

What I would like to know in FE model is what is the temperature on the sun's surface? Is it also 5800K ?

What I would like to know in FE model is what is the temperature on the sun's surface? Is it also 5800K ?

Well, you have no choice to agree with me that it is 5800K because of the Wien's law (lambda_max = 2898x10^-6 / T). Measuring on Earth the lambda_max emit by the sun (0.5 mm), you can easily find T.

Anyone knows what is the mass of the sun in FE model?

In order to find out how the light bends I would need to know how far away the sun is. Of course I don't have the money to do such a thing.

In order to find out how the light bends I would need to know how far away the sun is. Of course I don't have the money to do such a thing.

Why would you need money? Rowbotham just looked up and he figured it out.

He also thought the mathematical constant pi was greater than 5.

He also thought the mathematical constant pi was greater than 5.

so the only guy to ever do any "real" work on what you believe to be true and yet you do not beliee him? Then what do you base your beliefs on?

Independent research plus the things rowbotham got right.

Independent research plus the things rowbotham got right.

Could you go ahead a post that research so we can verify your findings

Independent research plus the things rowbotham got right.

Let me get this straight. You have done research, but don't have the resource to do research...

Ok...