The conspiracy debunked

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The conspiracy debunked
« on: June 14, 2006, 05:08:00 PM »
Here is an interesting thought about the conspiracy. Wouldn't some nation want to be the one on the cutting edge of technology and show the rest of the world taht the earth is flat? They are all in a conspiracy you say? That means that ALL the governments of the world would have to be in agreement. Hell, states in the United States can't even agree on what the speed limit should be let alone getting 6 billion people around the world to agree on a conspiracy. The governments of the world can't even get along at a peace table, that's why there are wars. What in the world makes you think that they would all be ka-hoots on a stupid conspiracy theory that takes untold man hours and financial resources to uphold?
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2006, 05:09:17 PM »
if you read the FAQ it has some waffle that the whole disagreeing with each other is just a big ruse.

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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2006, 05:10:49 PM »
Oh, so they spend billions of dollars on war, killing millions of their own tax payers in war to uphold a theory that makes no difference really, just to keep us all in the dark?

Oh, OK!
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Re: The conspiracy debunked
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2006, 05:14:11 PM »
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What in the world makes you think that they would all be ka-hoots on a stupid conspiracy theory that takes untold man hours and financial resources to uphold?


The fact that they keep saying the earth is round.
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2006, 05:15:17 PM »
You asked for a reason, not a good reason ;-)

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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2006, 08:39:15 AM »
you cant give a good reason because there is none!!!

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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2006, 08:48:34 AM »
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you cant give a good reason because there is none!!!


Here's my take on things. If my government suddenly revealed to me that the Earth truly is flat, I'd be really pissed off.


Now, mind you, I don't care whether the planet is flat or spherical, or square, or whatever. The point is that it's here. But the fact that my government had been lying to me my entire life, my parent's lives, etc... well, that would cause me to try and start up a riot.


Of course, I'm just speaking for myself. And probably about 98% of the population. *evil grin*
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2006, 01:13:01 PM »
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Quote from: "Jeff Hatfield"
you cant give a good reason because there is none!!!


Here's my take on things. If my government suddenly revealed to me that the Earth truly is flat, I'd be really pissed off.


Now, mind you, I don't care whether the planet is flat or spherical, or square, or whatever. The point is that it's here. But the fact that my government had been lying to me my entire life, my parent's lives, etc... well, that would cause me to try and start up a riot.


Of course, I'm just speaking for myself. And probably about 98% of the population. *evil grin*


why hide it in the first place?
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2006, 01:47:00 PM »
No one knows.  Its a conspiracy.  The conspiracy's not important; FE'ers theorized the existance of the conspiracy to try to examine how people started thinking the world is round and where the false information is coming from.

As for possible motives, I once proposed that it is possible that a round Earth is much more desirable than a flat Earth.  In a flat Earth, I believe the universe isn't nearly as big, if there even is a universe outside of Earth.  In a round Earth, many more things are possible.  Almost infinitely if you think about it.  And if you think about it more, this would prove to be highly fruitful if anyone should wish to make a conspiracy on it.  Think about it:  scientists working forever on something that we could never inch closer on as far as understanding (taking in to account our current knowledge and technology).  

I put forth the analogy of Santa Claus.  Why do parents tell their children about Santa Claus?  There's no one answer.  Some parents tell their children out of tradition, to bring joy to their children, to bring something magical to their innocent lives, or because they themselves believe in a spirit of Christmas and wish to simplify their feelings for their children in the shape of a jolly man giving presents.  I'm well aware of the last one sounding silly, but I have encountered people who believe this.  I also seem to be a sucker for believing in a little magic on Christmas Eve, whether or not it is a significant time of the year.
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2006, 03:54:43 PM »
The whole thing is obviously wrong.  A round Earth would make the sky appear blue.  A flat Earth would make the sky appear green.  Since the sky is blue, the Earth is round.

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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2006, 05:33:27 PM »
That is absurd. The sky is most often blue, and since the earth is flat your claim cannot be true.

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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2006, 05:39:04 PM »
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...since the earth is flat your claim cannot be true.


This looks like circular reasoning.
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2006, 05:57:57 PM »
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...since the earth is flat your claim cannot be true.


This looks like circular reasoning.

It was my intent to juxtapose two examples of bad logic; my circular reasoning, and his equally fallacous reasoning.

As for the OP:
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That means that ALL the governments of the world would have to be in agreement.

Not really, just the ones with space programs; I'm pretty sure Ecuador is just going to take our word for it when we say "Heck yeah it's round!!"

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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2006, 05:00:34 AM »
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Quote from: "Unimportant"
...since the earth is flat your claim cannot be true.


This looks like circular reasoning.



LOLOL That reasoning LOOKS circular? It's so circular you could roll it down a hill.

And Unimportant, you weren't trying to be clever and juxtapose anything. You were dodging the observation that the sky is blue.