The Global Conspiracy

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The Global Conspiracy
« on: January 03, 2009, 06:43:19 PM »
As stated in the FAQ:
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There exists a conspiracy among world governments claiming to have space programs and has disseminated the lie to the other governments, the media and the general public. The conspiracy hides the Earth's true shape from us for unknown objectives.

And also from the FAQ:
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Q: "Why has not this site been shut down by the government?"

A: Doing so would prove that the government is hiding something.

So the government doesn't want to seem suspicious. That makes sense, but still they wouldn't want you to spread the word. After all, you are the very few who know the truth. Hence, shouldn't the government + the rest of the conspiracy be working to quietly eliminate you? The conspiracy has the power to fool the world for a very long time, so silencing you shouldn't be so hard, should it? It's the entire conspiracy against basically the members of this forum. They could even do it in the aforementioned way of shutting this website down. In the worst case scenario for the government, it would make the news. People might be starting to raise some questions, but since the conspiracy is so powerful and successful in fooling the entire world, they could easily make up a reason why they shut down this site (if they'd even have to give one) and even fake proof of their claim (as they've done before according to you). If that happened, you FE'ers would say: "you see, their shutting us down! That means we're right and they don't want people to know" But that would make no impression on us unbelievers, because that's exactly what everybody expects you to say, and we would still believe the Round Earth Theory, and the Flat Earth Theory would have been successfully destroyed. What is your answer to all of this?

Also, in the extent of my above questions, does any of you believe that any of the prisoners on Guant?namo Bay are actually FE-believers who know too much (more than you)?

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Re: The Global Conspiracy
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2009, 06:56:51 PM »
As stated in the FAQ:
Quote from: FAQ
There exists a conspiracy among world governments claiming to have space programs and has disseminated the lie to the other governments, the media and the general public. The conspiracy hides the Earth's true shape from us for unknown objectives.

And also from the FAQ:
Quote from: FAQ
Q: "Why has not this site been shut down by the government?"

A: Doing so would prove that the government is hiding something.

So the government doesn't want to seem suspicious. That makes sense, but still they wouldn't want you to spread the word. After all, you are the very few who know the truth. Hence, shouldn't the government + the rest of the conspiracy be working to quietly eliminate you? The conspiracy has the power to fool the world for a very long time, so silencing you shouldn't be so hard, should it? It's the entire conspiracy against basically the members of this forum. They could even do it in the aforementioned way of shutting this website down. In the worst case scenario for the government, it would make the news. People might be starting to raise some questions, but since the conspiracy is so powerful and successful in fooling the entire world, they could easily make up a reason why they shut down this site (if they'd even have to give one) and even fake proof of their claim (as they've done before according to you). If that happened, you FE'ers would say: "you see, their shutting us down! That means we're right and they don't want people to know" But that would make no impression on us unbelievers, because that's exactly what everybody expects you to say, and we would still believe the Round Earth Theory, and the Flat Earth Theory would have been successfully destroyed. What is your answer to all of this?

Also, in the extent of my above questions, does any of you believe that any of the prisoners on Guant?namo Bay are actually FE-believers who know too much (more than you)?
This website is not widely known, and there are not many people on it. So it would be trivial for the Governments to wipe this website and eliminate all the users (either imprison them or out right kill them). And apparently they have no qualms about doing this for the thousands that would see the Ice wall each year, so they would not have any qualms about doing it to us.

So, why have they let this web site perpetuate?

Also, there has been FE Societies well before the Internet, and they could have raided the offices of these groups, got their mailing lists and eliminated the problem well before it got to this stage. Why haven't they?
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Re: The Global Conspiracy
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2009, 10:46:44 PM »
The FES has little effect on the world view of science and the true shape of the earth so busting them would draw unwanted and unneeded suspicion.
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Re: The Global Conspiracy
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2009, 05:03:08 AM »
The FES has little effect on the world view of science and the true shape of the earth so busting them would draw unwanted and unneeded suspicion.
Not if you silenced all people connect with it. Or you could construct some scandal with it (porn, etc) to discredit it (make it look like a front for something). Give the powers that FEers ascribe to the conspiracy, they can do this (and apparently can do and more according to the FEers on this forum - it has even been insinuated that the Conspiracy monitors and influences LED flash lights). Shutting down a forum like this would be simple for the amount of influence that would be needed to maintain a global conspiracy of that nature.
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Re: The Global Conspiracy
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2009, 06:16:59 AM »
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And apparently they have no qualms about doing this for the thousands that would see the Ice wall each year, so they would not have any qualms about doing it to us.

Many people do see the ice shelves at the coast of Antarctica every year. Why would they need to be killed?  ???
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I-am-me

Re: The Global Conspiracy
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2009, 08:13:15 AM »
The FES has little effect on the world view of science and the true shape of the earth so busting them would draw unwanted and unneeded suspicion.

It doesn't matter how little effect the FES has on the rest of the world. As far as the FES believe, they are the bearers of the absolute truth of the Earth's shape. While virtually nobody believes them now, if they are right, that could change. There must be some flaws in the Conspiracy, however small they are. Maybe some insiders very high ranked, but not aware of the truth, have some suspicion. There is a chance that everybody will find out the truth, maybe a very small one, maybe very big; maybe in 10 years time, maybe in 1000 years time, and maybe no one will ever find out: but the chance still exists. If the Conspiracy can easily misguide everybody for such a long time, shutting this site down with a false reason is peanuts. The "unwanted suspicion" that they would draw, is nothing serious for them to worry about: a lot of things the government does or is affiliated with are suspicious, like Area 51. But not the whole world believes they're keeping aliens in there either. The point I'm trying to make is: the Conspiracy which is so powerful according to the FES, can easily rule out even the slightest chance of getting caught, and the suspicion they might draw by doing that can easily be evaded as well, again, because they are powerful enough to successfully fool the world since quite a while. So why doesn't the Conspiracy do that?

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Re: The Global Conspiracy
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2009, 10:55:45 AM »
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And apparently they have no qualms about doing this for the thousands that would see the Ice wall each year, so they would not have any qualms about doing it to us.

Many people do see the ice shelves at the coast of Antarctica every year. Why would they need to be killed?  ???
Many people also see midnight sun every year.
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Re: The Global Conspiracy
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2009, 03:08:48 PM »
The FES has little effect on the world view of science and the true shape of the earth so busting them would draw unwanted and unneeded suspicion.

It doesn't matter how little effect the FES has on the rest of the world. As far as the FES believe, they are the bearers of the absolute truth of the Earth's shape. While virtually nobody believes them now, if they are right, that could change. There must be some flaws in the Conspiracy, however small they are. Maybe some insiders very high ranked, but not aware of the truth, have some suspicion. There is a chance that everybody will find out the truth, maybe a very small one, maybe very big; maybe in 10 years time, maybe in 1000 years time, and maybe no one will ever find out: but the chance still exists. If the Conspiracy can easily misguide everybody for such a long time, shutting this site down with a false reason is peanuts. The "unwanted suspicion" that they would draw, is nothing serious for them to worry about: a lot of things the government does or is affiliated with are suspicious, like Area 51. But not the whole world believes they're keeping aliens in there either. The point I'm trying to make is: the Conspiracy which is so powerful according to the FES, can easily rule out even the slightest chance of getting caught, and the suspicion they might draw by doing that can easily be evaded as well, again, because they are powerful enough to successfully fool the world since quite a while. So why doesn't the Conspiracy do that?

Maybe they just don't see it as an issue worth doing anything about.
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Re: The Global Conspiracy
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2009, 07:44:59 AM »
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And apparently they have no qualms about doing this for the thousands that would see the Ice wall each year, so they would not have any qualms about doing it to us.

Many people do see the ice shelves at the coast of Antarctica every year. Why would they need to be killed?  ???
And many people circumnavigate Antarctica every year (which on a FE would require then to go around the circumference of the FE) and not report fast movement or long travelling times. Also, for a FE to work the Ice Shelves would need to be higher than Mt Everest (or the atmosphere would disappear), about 100km or more in height, these people travelling to Antarctica do not report Ice Shelves that high.
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Re: The Global Conspiracy
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2009, 01:07:12 PM »
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And many people circumnavigate Antarctica every year

Source?

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Also, for a FE to work the Ice Shelves would need to be higher than Mt Everest (or the atmosphere would disappear), about 100km or more in height, these people travelling to Antarctica do not report Ice Shelves that high.

Why would the ice shelves at the coast of Antarctica need to be that high when they're not?

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Re: The Global Conspiracy
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2009, 12:39:45 AM »
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And many people circumnavigate Antarctica every year

Source?

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Also, for a FE to work the Ice Shelves would need to be higher than Mt Everest (or the atmosphere would disappear), about 100km or more in height, these people travelling to Antarctica do not report Ice Shelves that high.

Why would the ice shelves at the coast of Antarctica need to be that high when they're not?

Here's a source http://www.condorjourneys-adventures.com/antarctica_cruise5.asp .

And the ice shelves need to be that high or else the atmosphere would fly away according to you. Since they aren't, earth can't be flat.

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Re: The Global Conspiracy
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2009, 12:42:53 AM »
The atmolayer is held in place by the UA, not the ice wall.

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Re: The Global Conspiracy
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2009, 09:18:58 AM »
The atmolayer is held in place by the UA, not the ice wall.

I thought that the greater ice wall kept the atmolayer in.  Or was it the DEF?  Or does an infinite plane not need to even worry about keeping an atmolayer in?  It's so hard to keep track of all these FE theories.
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Re: The Global Conspiracy
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2009, 08:47:07 PM »
The atmolayer is held in place by the UA, not the ice wall.