im new, with a few questions

Ok this is my first post on this board so let me tell you a little about myself....

I am an open-minded liberal student from Orange County California. I am a sophomore at highschool and always approach a new subject WITH AN OPEN MIND. i was just doing some web browsing when i came across this board and i have just a few simple questions.....

1. If the "ice-wall" exists, how come no one as ever found it, or documented it?

2. Why do you guys think space travel is absurd and impossible?

3. If one was to walk in a straight line for 30,000 miles or so, wouldn't they encounter an "ice wall?"

Im also very curious as to how all you people bash those who believe the Earth is not flat without any evidence of your own. Without any physical evidence, that is.

Discuss

1. If the "ice-wall" exists, how come no one as ever found it, or documented it?

The theory says that anyone who has been near the Ice wall has either been part of the conspiracy, or simply hiked over a bit of the Ice wall and thought they were in Antarctica.

2. Why do you guys think space travel is absurd and impossible?

Because everyone who has been to space has claimed that the earth is round, so if it's flat, these people must be part of the conspiracy.

3. If one was to walk in a straight line for 30,000 miles or so, wouldn't they encounter an "ice wall?"

Yes.

so why haven't their been any expeditions over the supposed "ice-wall" to prove the theory of a flat earth?

If the "ice wall" exsists, how long does it go for before it becomes "nothing?"

Why can't believers of this theory make their own space craft (like SpaceShipOne) and prove to the world that they are right?

Can I see any PHYSICAL EVIDENCE supporting the flat earth claim? I have already seen tons of evidence supporting the round earth claim....

so why haven't their been any expeditions over the supposed "ice-wall" to prove the theory of a flat earth?

There may have been, but as the conspirators would have done away with anyone who tried, we would never know.

If the "ice wall" exsists, how long does it go for before it becomes "nothing?"

About as long as it would take Antarctica to go away in the RE model.

well thank you GeoGuy, you explanations make some sense and are, in reality, blatent one-sided pieces of propaganda.

Can someone who believes in the flat earth theory please (attempt to) answer these questions???

What was wrong with his explanations?  By the way, all this is covered in the FAQ.

oh, i see....

then riddle me this Mr. Engineer....

Do you know of a certain star formation called "Mensa?" If you don't, then let me refresh your memory. "Mensa" is different than every other constellation because it is only visible from the southern hemisphere. How could this possibly occur if the earth is flat???

oh, i see....

then riddle me this Mr. Engineer....

Do you know of a certain star formation called "Mensa?" If you don't, then let me refresh your memory. "Mensa" is different than every other constellation because it is only visible from the southern hemisphere. How could this possibly occur if the earth is flat???

"Atmospheric conditions" :lol:

hahahaha

sounds like you FE's got an excuse for everything....but can someone please answer me the mensa question? its a good question to be sure.
(and i better not get an answer like "Oh, its an optical illusion")

hahahaha

sounds like you FE's got an excuse for everything....

Much the same as the Re's.

hahahaha

sounds like you FE's got an excuse for everything....but can someone please answer me the mensa question? its a good question to be sure.
(and i better not get an answer like "Oh, its an optical illusion")

So by your own restrictions:  Why on a RE does the sun appear to be larger near the horizon than when it is overhead?  (and I better not get an answer like, "Oh, it's an optical illusion.")

because the suns rays are traveling at an angle that passes through a lot of atmosphere, which magnifies the light which is percieved by the human eye. kinda like a telescope.

Now stop answering my question with another question.

ANSWER THE MENSA QUESTION ALREADY (if you can, that is....)

because the suns rays are traveling at an angle that passes through a lot of atmosphere, which magnifies the light which is percieved by the human eye. kinda like a telescope.

So it's an optical illusion?  That can't be right because I said you can't explain it that way.

no, looking through a telescope is not an optical illusion, its optical distortion. quite a differnce there my friend...

now stop stalling and answer the mensa question

You fail to see my point...but anyway:
The Mensa Constellation is very, very dim. As a matter of fact, it is the faintest of all constellations.  It is possible that the light has less atmosphere to travel through near the ice wall and more at the center.  Therefore, the miniscule amount of light that is directed towards the equator and above is refracted back out into space.

no, looking through a telescope is not an optical illusion, its optical distortion. quite a differnce there my friend...

What then, is the difference between an optical illusion and an optical distortion?

it is also possible that you have no idea what you are talking about

distortion=bending of light to magnify or make smaller

illusion=your brain tricking you to see something as larger/smaller

there is quite a difference between illusion and distortion

it is also possible that you have no idea what you are talking about

distortion=bending of light to magnify or make smaller

illusion=your brain tricking you to see something as larger/smaller

there is quite a difference between illusion and distortion

Well said I must say

it is also possible that you have no idea what you are talking about

distortion=bending of light to magnify or make smaller

illusion=your brain tricking you to see something as larger/smaller

there is quite a difference between illusion and distortion

I must thank you for making my point for me.  

You gave me the restriction of saying it was not an illusion. So as I said:
 

The Mensa Constellation is very, very dim. As a matter of fact, it is the faintest of all constellations. It is possible that the light has less atmosphere to travel through near the ice wall and more at the center. Therefore, the miniscule amount of light that is directed towards the equator and above is refracted back out into space.

This is not an illusion.  It is a distortion of the light waves as they travel through the thicker atmosphere and the subsequent bending of the light back into space.
You thought you could come to this forum and post a question that no one could answer.  My response is absolutely possible for the same reason that the sun looks larger at the horizon.  Now, do you think it is possible you have no idea what you are talking about?

no, what i said was absolutely correct. What you said was very confusing and im just a simpleton with a few questions....

are their any diagrams i can see of the flat earth model or something??

no, what i said was absolutely correct.

I didn't say you were wrong.  For the same reason that the sun appears larger near the horizon (distortion), the light from the Mensa Constellation passes through more atmosphere above the equator and is bent back into space (distortion).

What you said was very confusing and im just a simpleton with a few questions....

This didn't sound like you when you thought I wouldn't be able to give a resonable answer to your question.  Let's review:

then riddle me this Mr. Engineer....
Do you know of a certain star formation called "Mensa?" If you don't, then let me refresh your memory. "Mensa" is different than every other constellation because it is only visible from the southern hemisphere. How could this possibly occur if the earth is flat???

sounds like you FE's got an excuse for everything....but can someone please answer me the mensa question? its a good question to be sure.
(and i better not get an answer like "Oh, its an optical illusion")

Now stop answering my question with another question.
ANSWER THE MENSA QUESTION ALREADY (if you can, that is....)

it is also possible that you have no idea what you are talking about

What happened?  Had a slice of humble pie?

humble pie??? no, no....im starting to realize how ridiculous this "theory" is.

How are islands in the south pacific (that are of a tropical climate) be so close to the supposed "ice wall" (which needs a frigid temperature to remain intact) possibly exist then?

why would the govt. cover this up?

How much time do you have on your hands?

and why, why DON'T you believe that we can get to space?

huh...?

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i254/kmec20/earth.jpg

huh...?

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i254/kmec20/earth.jpg

It's a disc, with the north pole at the centre.  Not a baking sheet.  Read the FAQ.

oh god,

the principal is the same....

oh god,

the principal is the same....

No it isn't, the ice wall never goes near the equator in the FE model.

how can ice walls not melt if they are so close to areas that get a lot of sun (tropical islands)?

that is my question, please answer it.

EDIT: read my other thread

how can ice walls not melt if they are so close to areas that get a lot of sun (tropical islands)?

that is my question, please answer it.

The ice wall does not melt because it's never in an area that gets a lot of sun light. The equator in the FE model is a band in-between the "north pole" and the "ice wall", with the sun circling above it. So the ice wall never reaches any closer to the equator than Antarctica does in the RE model.

how can ice walls not melt if they are so close to areas that get a lot of sun (tropical islands)?

that is my question, please answer it.

Here's GeoGuy's answer, please read it:

No it isn't, the ice wall never goes near the equator in the FE model.

I'll just add that in fact, it doesn't go near the Tropic of Capricorn either.

what evidence is their that the flat earth map is accurate?